If you owned a GRMN, would you trade it for a GR Yaris ?
Discussion
According to How Many left there are only 88 GRMN registered in the UK.
Apart from having to take road calming calmly ... it is a fabulous car ... and with the decals removed very Q car.
The cost to change would be around £18k for the circuit version ... the new car having twice the current value of a 30 month old car with 15000 miles on the clock.
Toyota sell 10 million cars a year 1% of which are in the UK. There will be 25000 GR Yaris manufactured to homologate the car .. although I understand that it may never be rallied ... none are going to North America and France has taxed them out of the market, so how many are destined for the UK ?
North America is 16% of Toyotas market so I am guessing that we should see 300 of them ... unless they make more or we are Hot Hatch central. We received 20% of the GRMN so if that was to be repeated we could see 5000 of them ... at which point they would need sales close to the Honda Civic R ... with residual values to match.
And there will be the new Golf R etc etc.
For 1 sec faster to 60, a four seater rather than a five with less rear headroom, a smaller boot and 6cm wider, is the experience worth the extra cost ?
Discuss please ... I am looking for inspiration and the local dealer has just treated me like they are in no rush to look after me ... edited ... the person on holiday has just caught up on their email ! To be fair.
Apart from having to take road calming calmly ... it is a fabulous car ... and with the decals removed very Q car.
The cost to change would be around £18k for the circuit version ... the new car having twice the current value of a 30 month old car with 15000 miles on the clock.
Toyota sell 10 million cars a year 1% of which are in the UK. There will be 25000 GR Yaris manufactured to homologate the car .. although I understand that it may never be rallied ... none are going to North America and France has taxed them out of the market, so how many are destined for the UK ?
North America is 16% of Toyotas market so I am guessing that we should see 300 of them ... unless they make more or we are Hot Hatch central. We received 20% of the GRMN so if that was to be repeated we could see 5000 of them ... at which point they would need sales close to the Honda Civic R ... with residual values to match.
And there will be the new Golf R etc etc.
For 1 sec faster to 60, a four seater rather than a five with less rear headroom, a smaller boot and 6cm wider, is the experience worth the extra cost ?
Discuss please ... I am looking for inspiration and the local dealer has just treated me like they are in no rush to look after me ... edited ... the person on holiday has just caught up on their email ! To be fair.
Edited by ChrisW. on Friday 4th December 12:53
Just drove the GR Yaris ... it's a car that really engages but it isn't without it's faults.
The view out of the window and the interior of the car feels a darker place to be.
The 4WD system and turbo can be heard working ... I loved the engine noise, but the engine does feel very flat at low revs where the GRMN would be happy to go.
The steering felt a little less tactile and of course, no torque steer or front wheel drive'y ballistic'ness ...
It revved very cleanly to the top-end and I did hit the rev limiter by mistake ...
The brakes had a slightly soft feel at the start of braking and the whole car felt a little insulated ...but it certainly delivers to goods and I do like the 3 cylinder sound ...
The suspension was firm but not crashy ... I think more compliant than the GRMN ... but not a huge difference.
I wonder what my impression of the GRMN will be when I next take it out ??
The view out of the window and the interior of the car feels a darker place to be.
The 4WD system and turbo can be heard working ... I loved the engine noise, but the engine does feel very flat at low revs where the GRMN would be happy to go.
The steering felt a little less tactile and of course, no torque steer or front wheel drive'y ballistic'ness ...
It revved very cleanly to the top-end and I did hit the rev limiter by mistake ...
The brakes had a slightly soft feel at the start of braking and the whole car felt a little insulated ...but it certainly delivers to goods and I do like the 3 cylinder sound ...
The suspension was firm but not crashy ... I think more compliant than the GRMN ... but not a huge difference.
I wonder what my impression of the GRMN will be when I next take it out ??
I agree ... I adore the single minded focus of Toyota and to be fair, the GR Yaris has a long travel rally type set-up that plays to fun on normal roads in away that the GRMN does not. And the Torsen diffs on both axles .. a class act. And the option to adjust the torque split front to rear, even better.
Having driven on a frozen lake in Norway with studded tyres ... a Ford Focus and a BMW 328i Coupe ... I would love to play with the drive ratios on the GR Yaris on similar tyres !
As for a GRMN GR Yaris, what would they do the make it GRMN ??
Having driven on a frozen lake in Norway with studded tyres ... a Ford Focus and a BMW 328i Coupe ... I would love to play with the drive ratios on the GR Yaris on similar tyres !
As for a GRMN GR Yaris, what would they do the make it GRMN ??
I owned a P1 which I loved ... after an Audi Quattro 20v which rolled terribly making weight transfer something to be managed !
If Toytota have got on top of their intercooling the tuned versions could be astonishingly good ... the more I read the more exciting it becomes. I mean, torsen diffs on both front and rear axles and the ability to adjust the front / rear balance ... in a £35k car ...
And rear drive disconnection when the handbrake is applied ... phew !
If Toytota have got on top of their intercooling the tuned versions could be astonishingly good ... the more I read the more exciting it becomes. I mean, torsen diffs on both front and rear axles and the ability to adjust the front / rear balance ... in a £35k car ...
And rear drive disconnection when the handbrake is applied ... phew !
Gassing Station | Toyota | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff