Discussion
Sorry, this topic drives me crazy, so i would like to hear your opinions on this.
I just bought my MY22 base A110 in October last year. So i did not have the chance to drive with summer tires, but i don’t think it’s a tire issue anyways.
In all the reviews the Alpine is described as very active and easy to drift. So to get a better feeling for the car i booked a small driver safery training 2 months ago. Especially on the wet roundabout where we could try drifting i was totally bummed by how the car handled. It was really hard to get into oversteer, and once it came sideways it didn’t take throttle anymore (track mode, esp off). Very much like in the YouTube video where the stigmtries to drift a A110y
Also i couldn’t do the „moose test“ any faster then the other cars (i.e. a GLC coupe).
Another thing is that when blasting on country roads i notice massive understeer in faster corners. In these situations the car turns in perfectly when i apply the brakes, but it doesn’t feel good or safe. It bothers me especially since my old 987 cayman with kw v1 coilovers would handle these corners with ease.
In general i also feel that the steering around 12“ is very numb and nowhere near as responsive as in my old car.
So long story short: is that amount of understeer normal?
I have already booked in an appointment to get the life110 fast road geo locked in, but i was wondering whether i should have high hopes for that or if i maybe have wrong expectations?
I just bought my MY22 base A110 in October last year. So i did not have the chance to drive with summer tires, but i don’t think it’s a tire issue anyways.
In all the reviews the Alpine is described as very active and easy to drift. So to get a better feeling for the car i booked a small driver safery training 2 months ago. Especially on the wet roundabout where we could try drifting i was totally bummed by how the car handled. It was really hard to get into oversteer, and once it came sideways it didn’t take throttle anymore (track mode, esp off). Very much like in the YouTube video where the stigmtries to drift a A110y
Also i couldn’t do the „moose test“ any faster then the other cars (i.e. a GLC coupe).
Another thing is that when blasting on country roads i notice massive understeer in faster corners. In these situations the car turns in perfectly when i apply the brakes, but it doesn’t feel good or safe. It bothers me especially since my old 987 cayman with kw v1 coilovers would handle these corners with ease.
In general i also feel that the steering around 12“ is very numb and nowhere near as responsive as in my old car.
So long story short: is that amount of understeer normal?
I have already booked in an appointment to get the life110 fast road geo locked in, but i was wondering whether i should have high hopes for that or if i maybe have wrong expectations?
Sorry, the skidpad was just one example where it occured to me. The problem there was more that esp would totally prohibit any throttle to keep it sliding.
The major problem I have that i already had two situations on a country road where i thought „ok, thank god i am insured“. Both could be resolved by i slight tip on the brakes, but i am afraid that at some point i wont be able to catch it. Now you could say „Rikkert, you
, just go slower!“, but when i step up from a 25k 987 cayman to a 68k Alpine I expect it to be comparable at least.
I have an appointment for the geo in two weeks and i am curious to see what the current settings are. If they are far off from the factory settings, i will just get them corrected. If its in factory spec i will give the life110 settings a shot.
The major problem I have that i already had two situations on a country road where i thought „ok, thank god i am insured“. Both could be resolved by i slight tip on the brakes, but i am afraid that at some point i wont be able to catch it. Now you could say „Rikkert, you
, just go slower!“, but when i step up from a 25k 987 cayman to a 68k Alpine I expect it to be comparable at least.I have an appointment for the geo in two weeks and i am curious to see what the current settings are. If they are far off from the factory settings, i will just get them corrected. If its in factory spec i will give the life110 settings a shot.
No, i explicitly chose the A110 over a used 718T because I wanted exactly what i saw and read in the reviews (something more playful then the porsche).
Unfortunately my car handles more like a Golf R or so, but not really like I expected it from a mid engine car. Guess i‘ll have to wait for the geo correction/change until my final verdict.
Unfortunately my car handles more like a Golf R or so, but not really like I expected it from a mid engine car. Guess i‘ll have to wait for the geo correction/change until my final verdict.
The video olivera posted could be exactly my car and it makes me wonder if thats normal/intended. In the km77-moose test the alpine has problems even with 75km/h while a cayman does the same with 85km/h?!
I mean thats a whole different league? With handling like that the alpine couldnt do laptimes anywhere close to the porsche times (i know they are slower, but only a little).
Regarding the esp: when you enter track mode it explicitly says „esp off“ so I assumed it was off. My Instructor said in germany it can never be really of due to regulations (which i didn’t know before). I guess the skidpad was just too slippery for the esp to work correctly.
Oh, and yes. I am definitely looking towards more neg camber when i get the geo adjusted.
I mean thats a whole different league? With handling like that the alpine couldnt do laptimes anywhere close to the porsche times (i know they are slower, but only a little).
Regarding the esp: when you enter track mode it explicitly says „esp off“ so I assumed it was off. My Instructor said in germany it can never be really of due to regulations (which i didn’t know before). I guess the skidpad was just too slippery for the esp to work correctly.
Oh, and yes. I am definitely looking towards more neg camber when i get the geo adjusted.
Thanks for all your replies. I‘ll definitely report back once the new geo is in place. One thing i noticed today, that the ESC Off button behaves really strange. When you press it nothing happens. So i hold it for like 5-10 seconds and also nothing happens. Then i press it multiple times in despair and then i get the ESC off warning im the display. Does anyone know how it’s properly disabled? My current method of randomly pressing until it works feels wrong somehow… ;-)
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