Best value complete kit package

Best value complete kit package

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Woody

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Wednesday 19th May 2021
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So rethinking how much I want to spend on a kit car and also fancy going down the self build route.
I'd look to buy a complete package from a manufacturer for ease of purchase, knowing that it will all go together and getting a brand new car at the end of it.

So far I've looked at Tiger, MK and Westfield.

I've priced them all up on a virtually identical spec.

>MK Indy R - complete package (inc. engine & box sourced separately) - £19k

>Tiger Avon - complete package - £20.3k

>Westfield Classic SE - Complete package - £23.5k

All above are:
>2.0 Zetec with throttle bodies all around 170BHP
>MSA type rear roll bar & stays
>Full screen & wipers
>Non LSD diff

Quality of build manual will also play a part.
>I know Tiger don't have a build manual as such, and already having the 'how to build an Avon book' that doesn't seem that comprehensive.

>Westfields manual seems pretty good, although reading a few recent build threads on WSCC they seem to be out of date in places - but most of the missing/altered info is available in the various threads.

>MK manual seems decent from what I can glean on various forums/blogs - reluctant to pay the £50 to download and have a look.

I know that Westfield also have discounts available at various times of the year on kits etc. so could save 10-15% by waiting for one of those which would drop the cost down quite significantly.

Other advantage of Westfield is they're only 45 minutes down the road from me, and their phone/email support seems pretty decent.

This would be my 50th present to myself in a couple of years so wouldn't want to layout that amount of cash and not get a decent product at the end.

Anyone have recent experience of building any of the above kits?

Any other complete kits I should look at?

Woody

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Wednesday 19th May 2021
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Thanks for the replies guys - appreciated.

I had looked briefly at GBS - the only complete package they list is the 'Ultimate self build' with the Duratec but that's best part of £28k......

I might email and see what other options they do, plus would need to factor in getting it painted or wrapped if I went GBS.

Woody

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Thursday 20th May 2021
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Frankthered said:
I noticed that, but also noticed that the Mazda version lists a "complete" kit for around £13k which seems a bit more palatable but I didn't mention it because you seem to be looking at Ford - I guess the Zebec would be somewhere nearer to the Mazda?

As for things having moved on, @Turn7, the GBS cars have pretty much zero to do with the old RH products, much better designs by all accounts.

It seems £28k gets you a Caterham with a 1.6 Sigma.
Yes I had noticed the Mazda kit - I've emailed GBS to see if that includes a donor pack etc.
If I went Mazda route I'd probably do the Omex upgrade that MK are doing to get 160 out of the 1.8.

The other appeal of the Westfield is that it already comes with a fully dressed engine with smaller altenator and raceline shortened sump etc.



Woody

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Saturday 22nd May 2021
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Have spoken to GBS and it seems like the 'full Mazda package' is everything minus donor bits - so pretty much the same as the MK RX-5 package, but £3k more......

Regarding engine choice if I went used Zetec it looks like Specialised Engines could do a rebuild/remanufactured service for £1100 or Stage 1 for £1500 - so I could get an as new Stage 1 engine for less than £2k depending on how much I spent on the donor engine.
Throw on a set of DanST ITB's & should have a 180 bhp engine for £3.5k.....

There's also a local company who will do the same with the Mazda engine for similar price.....

Too many decisions!

But MK are looking the favourite as their complete kits appear to be better VFM.

Edited by Woody on Saturday 22 May 09:24

Woody

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Monday 7th June 2021
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sociopath said:
If it was me (and it was about 3 years ago) I'd look at getting a second hand Westfield from toybox. All the works been done, Dale and Andrew really put their cars through the mill before they sell them, and you get unlimited support afterwards.

I know prices go up, but in 2018 I got an immaculate 2016 car (2L zetec on jenvey TBs and omex ECU) with 3k on the clock for significantly less than the prices above.

I'm now moving it on (getting another toybox car) 10k miles later and Andrew has given me an excellent part ex deal.


Edited by sociopath on Thursday 3rd June 20:31
Thanks for the reply - have looked at the Toybox stock (not been over yet though) and they doe seem to put work in to them.
Will give it some consideration.