PH team for Birkett six hour Relay Race ?
Discussion
Just a Thought but im looking to put a team together for the Birkett 6h relay race on sat 30th October.
If Ted approves how about a PH Team.. We need 4-6 Drivers with cars and some helpers..
So Far I've Got 2 myself in the Tasmin and Dom in his mg Midget
does any one else fancy this...
THe cost is 900 quid split between the drivers.
The competition is very mixed and based on a handicap system. they take the fastest lap by each driver in his own car at silverstone and work out how many laps you should do in an equal share of the time. That is then used to calculate free laps on top of the scratch team.
the winning team is the most free laps plus actual laps. there are also class winners.
the competition is from pre war aston gp cars to radicals!!!
To try to be competitive you need long stints win minimum stops but this tends to be governed by fuel capacity...
If Teds up for it plus some drivers ( mmm does Ted have a licence?) all We'd need from PH is plenty of Stickerage !!!!
Cheers
G
If Ted approves how about a PH Team.. We need 4-6 Drivers with cars and some helpers..
So Far I've Got 2 myself in the Tasmin and Dom in his mg Midget
does any one else fancy this...
THe cost is 900 quid split between the drivers.
The competition is very mixed and based on a handicap system. they take the fastest lap by each driver in his own car at silverstone and work out how many laps you should do in an equal share of the time. That is then used to calculate free laps on top of the scratch team.
the winning team is the most free laps plus actual laps. there are also class winners.
the competition is from pre war aston gp cars to radicals!!!
To try to be competitive you need long stints win minimum stops but this tends to be governed by fuel capacity...
If Teds up for it plus some drivers ( mmm does Ted have a licence?) all We'd need from PH is plenty of Stickerage !!!!
Cheers
G
john75 said:
They used to hold this even at snetterton but I have a feeling it now takes palce at Silverstone.
Fantastic racing with lots of speed differental.
Yep silverstone National, its a great end of term bash. last year i did it with a team of tasmins ( 5 cars 6 drivers). we shared the pit garage with the pre war astons and a morgan team...
edited to say. you need at least a full national B licence i.e no novice cross but plenty of time to get them if you dont have them yet..
Cheers
G ( NAT A)
>> Edited by Graham on Tuesday 29th June 21:48
ehasler said:
There are a few other PHers who race - I wonder if it's worth giving any of these guys a try?
Martin Short
Rob Barff
Simon Pullen
Not sure if they'll be good enough though!
mmm not sure if shortys car is running at the mo though. i believe he had a bit of an off the other week
Ok then if we Go with the 5 we've got for now
ME - TVR Tasmin
Dom - MG Midget
DD - Ginetta G20
Ed - Westie
Stig - Locost
that looks like a plan and gives us space to drop another in if we can find somthing interesting.
the cost between 5 would be 180 quid each for approx 1h15mins racing each plus a bit of qualifying..
are you all up for that?
if so mail me you address and i'll send an entry form which you'll need to return to me together with a cheque ( to 750 motor club) together with a results sheet showing your fastest lap at Silverstone..
I also need an indication of how long your car will run on a full tank of fuel. im going to stick an extra tank in mine to get over the hour if we need it.
G
P.s.
Ted are you happy for that group of drivers to enter under th PH banner?
I think the event its self would benifit from some exposure and PH seems an ideal place for it.. Currently there is no promotion (as usual) and even though the grid is usually oversubscribed the stands must have about 10 people in them !!!
G
ehasler said:
We would need to install an enlarged fuel tank in the Tuscan, but I don't think that is a problem.
I've only got 20 litres in the Westfield, so will only be able to do 25-30 minute stints.
How does this compare to everyone else?
the mg is about the same. im probably going to put a extra tank in the tas so over 1 hour and i think the g20 is about 40 mins..
griff2be said:
What's the story with DNF's etc?
in the normal course of events you always have one car waiting in the pit ready to go out. the current car comes in the pits, the new car tags on behind it, the lead car peels off at the end of the pits and the other one carries on to the track.
If you get a car stuck on the circuit, as soon as you are sure its stopped, you simply send the next car out.
using the transponders if they see you have more than one car circulating neither laps count, until the other car comes in.
If you do have a car stopped on the circuit they will recover it to the pits and it can go out again later.
last year we started with 5 tasmins ( 6 drivers)
lost one bonnet( and took header tank with it)
broke one damper
one car in the wall ( dont get on the outside of a fraser nash in a bend)
I was due to take the flag but my borowed engine started to mis-fire ( loose ignition feed)
we also managed to send one car out without a transponder, but they still credited us with the laps.
With 5-6 cars that carnt run for an hour you are going to struggle for an out and out win. but with some good driving, slick change overs and consistancy without problems we should be able to put on a good showing.
The taz team were doing well untill we hit problems..
>> Edited by Graham on Thursday 1st July 12:49
DustyC said:
This sounds like bloody good fun!
Its one of the Hidden gems of British Motorsport
the mix of cars is fantastic... and you'd be surprised how quick those pre war gp cars are in a straight line.
one min you can be fighting with a MGB, then tripping over an A40 whilst avoiding a flying radical with a BMW M3 on its tail, then at the next bend your trying to work out which side of the 1920's Aston Martin you want to go past, as you see the Lola T70 dive into the pits !!!!
griff2be said:
Seems to me the trick is not to try too hard in qualifying in these handicap events!
Ahh their on to that one. They take you handicap time from a previous results sheet. i.e my last and quickest lap time happens to be at the birkett last year so i'll give them a results sheet for then showing the time.
They also reserve the right to amend your handicap time if they think you are taking the p...
i.e i dont think they'll belive your fastest time in the tuscan around silverstone national is a 1m 30 sec
They are very good at the handicaping and it all works very well. they have had about 50 years to perfect the system...
DustyC said:
Is refueling not permitted?
Yes but not whilst your out on the track
you have to come in to refuel, so you stay out as long as your fuel/tyres/arms hold up and then hand over to the next car, refuel and wait for you next turn.
as Ed says to go for a scratch with you need 4 quick drivers in radical and each do 1 1.5 hour stint. as you minimise time lost in the pits.
With 6 varied cars doing 2 30 min stints were going to loose a fair few laps in the pits, but then that format is the most fun and plenty of the other teams are in the same boat.
griff2be said:
What do they do if you haven't done the National Circuit before in said vehicle?
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you give them another circuit time and they work it out.
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Isn't the National circuit a bit small for these shenanigans?
you'd have though so with 41 teams but it seems to work ok. i'll admit its about my least favourite circuit but the event is fun.
I'd love to have Tony along in the radical but i think we'll be struggling enough to get the entry with the mix of cars we've got already
To be in with a chance i've got to get the entry in by the end of the week and come up with a good reason.
I think we stand a 50/50 chance as the moment...
The 750 Club prefer teams of like cars i.e mg / tvr/ radical/morgan or aston ect.
I have a few ideas that should help us though
G
edited to say. Tony Didnt we do the Ards day together on one of Steve L's full ards day thingys at sillystone..
>> Edited by Graham on Monday 5th July 21:57
To be in with a chance i've got to get the entry in by the end of the week and come up with a good reason.
I think we stand a 50/50 chance as the moment...
The 750 Club prefer teams of like cars i.e mg / tvr/ radical/morgan or aston ect.
I have a few ideas that should help us though
G
edited to say. Tony Didnt we do the Ards day together on one of Steve L's full ards day thingys at sillystone..
>> Edited by Graham on Monday 5th July 21:57
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