Route from Ledbury up to Evo Triangle

[crispyshark]

Hi there,

Using Ledbury as a staging point for a group tour up to the Evo triangle (people are coming from all parts of England). Can anyone recommend a decent route from Ledbury to the Evo Triangle?

Thanks in advance.

Chris

[crispyshark]

Red Devil said:

Predictable. Same as the Cat & Fiddle (which ultimately led to the demise of the eponymous pub).
Personally I think the Triangle attracts too many like this idiot in the Civic -:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDAX1ZJ-g8
I have never fathomed out why people post videos to youtube which anyone can view and which are likely to get them into trouble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpmXAoc3dew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dt0cgFrEE&fe...

Will the average speed cameras be for NSL or lower?

Any other suggestions of roads through Wales that might offer an alternative?

[crispyshark]

Red Devil said:

crispyshark said:

Will the average speed cameras be for NSL or lower?

Haven't a clue, but the C&F is 50 - https://goo.gl/maps/Q7ax79yB3M72
Wouldnt be surprised if the Triangle turns out to be the same.
It's not going to become a reality for some time yet though.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-42217053
There are many hoops to be jumped through first.

crispyshark said:

Any other suggestions of roads through Wales that might offer an alternative?

Plenty of alternatives to the Triangle if you want to avoid it.
Mid Wales - https://goo.gl/maps/gi6DnmuCQDw

Not sure whether you're planning a day trip or a weekend (Sat/Sun).
If the latter you can link the above to this.
North Wales - https://goo.gl/maps/yFV77SqKWzx
Doing both in one day is possible but OTT for those who have a long drive home afterwards.

If you want to do North Wales only from Ledbury.
This - https://goo.gl/maps/jFDbvXpxRd72

We are there from Friday to Sunday and were going to camp at the pub at the end of the original route you sent.

Still want to do the triangle but would be good to have an alternative for the Saturday....maybe Snowdonia and the coast?

[crispyshark]

Red Devil said:

crispyshark said:

We are there from Friday to Sunday and were going to camp at the pub at the end of the original route you sent.

Foelas Arms Hotel? - https://goo.gl/maps/CwCeGeqL6wQ2
If so, then reach it via the A5, rather than Bala - https://goo.gl/maps/gZN5NgJmFEs
Keep Bala for Saturday. See below.

Was actually thinking of staying here?

http://www.giler.co.uk/

Is that near the one above? Any reason you suggested the Foelas Arms?

[crispyshark]

Red Devil said:

crispyshark said:

We are there from Friday to Sunday and were going to camp at the pub at the end of the original route you sent.

Foelas Arms Hotel? - https://goo.gl/maps/CwCeGeqL6wQ2
If so, then reach it via the A5, rather than Bala - https://goo.gl/maps/gZN5NgJmFEs
Keep Bala for Saturday. See below.

crispyshark said:

Still want to do the triangle but would be good to have an alternative for the Saturday....maybe Snowdonia and the coast?

This - https://goo.gl/maps/yRChUhaJCfF2
Or this - https://goo.gl/maps/Nb6t6JkWMEM2
Many people don't think of going over to Anglesey.
Or, if that doesn't appeal, try
This - https://goo.gl/maps/4UcLPBhihTD2
In Harlech you will find a short (one way) road.
Arguably the steepest hill in the UK (40%)
https://goo.gl/maps/nLakbMks57Q2

All of the above routes will let you do the B4391 both ways.
I guarantee you will love it.

Triangle on Sunday. Do a lap one way then the other, ending back in Pentrefoelas.
Then this loop finishing at Llyn Brenig - https://goo.gl/maps/BDxwvHnLHLE2

Is it hard to get hold of 99RON in N. Wales/on these routes?

[crispyshark]

Does anyone know how to or know of an app that will take the above routes and convert them so they can be uploaded on a tom tom Go 510?

[crispyshark]

Red Devil said:

crispyshark said:

We are there from Friday to Sunday and were going to camp at the pub at the end of the original route you sent.

Foelas Arms Hotel? - https://goo.gl/maps/CwCeGeqL6wQ2
If so, then reach it via the A5, rather than Bala - https://goo.gl/maps/gZN5NgJmFEs
Keep Bala for Saturday. See below.

crispyshark said:

Still want to do the triangle but would be good to have an alternative for the Saturday....maybe Snowdonia and the coast?

This - https://goo.gl/maps/yRChUhaJCfF2
Or this - https://goo.gl/maps/Nb6t6JkWMEM2
Many people don't think of going over to Anglesey.
Or, if that doesn't appeal, try
This - https://goo.gl/maps/4UcLPBhihTD2
In Harlech you will find a short (one way) road.
Arguably the steepest hill in the UK (40%)
https://goo.gl/maps/nLakbMks57Q2

All of the above routes will let you do the B4391 both ways.
I guarantee you will love it.

Triangle on Sunday. Do a lap one way then the other, ending back in Pentrefoelas.
Then this loop finishing at Llyn Brenig - https://goo.gl/maps/BDxwvHnLHLE2

Got back from the tour on Sunday...what a great time...9 very happy petrol heads!

Thanks for the help with these routes, totally epic and we also had a clear Evo Triangle on the Friday and Saturday afternoon/Evening. There are no average speed cameras installed.

https://goo.gl/maps/Nb6t6JkWMEM2

The roads on this map up to Snowden (where we stopped for lunch) were bloody fantastic.

https://goo.gl/maps/gZN5NgJmFEs

This route up from Ledbury was also cracking! Managed to keep all 9 cars together pretty much all the way.

Getting 98 Ron or higher also wasn't a problem.






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[crispyshark]

Deeman said:

Red Devil said:

Predictable. Same as the Cat & Fiddle (which ultimately led to the demise of the eponymous pub).
Personally I think the Triangle attracts too many like this idiot in the Civic - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoDAX1ZJ-g8
I have never fathomed out why people post videos to youtube which anyone can view and which are likely to get them into trouble.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpmXAoc3dew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6dt0cgFrEE&fe...

Edited by Red Devil on Friday 9th February 18:19

What a banker! Hence why large chunks of EVO triangle have average speed cameras - thanks a lot civic man. Clever guy

Large chunks with avg speed cameras? Didn't see them when we were there 2 weeks ago.....unless they were disguised as sheep!

[crispyshark]

Deeman said:

Look out for the NTP then...

If you have some evidence of this, please share? otherwise i'm not sure why you keep posting something that is not accurate.

It's an NSL road so i don't see why i would be getting an NTP. There were no signs indicating cameras, the only signs up were for temporary road surface.

There were no other cars on the road either of the days we were there so i can't comment on other users and their driving. As we left on the Sunday there was a lot of tasty machinery heading towards it though. I can only surmise that going and touring the area on a weekday helps.

[crispyshark]

Deeman said:

They are on a stretch of the southern section - we just completed a tour which caught some of it. The tour organiser knew about them and gave us all due warning on tour guide notes. Short of sending you specific video footage of the exact day and hour, I fail to see what else you are going to listen to, because you seem so sure of yourself. I have been on the earth long enough to know what I see out of the window and don't dream this stuff up just to amuse myself! You say you are a journalist? Surely you should ensure you have all the facts??!

Direct quote from tour notes!

"Unfortunately too many incidents caused by reckless drivers posting videos of themselves on YouTube and reckless motorcyclists posting themselves into the scenery meant the road has become heavily policed. Average speed cameras have now been introduced on some sections"

If I can actually be inclined to do so, perhaps i'll trawl through all the footage to find it, just for you, and then send you a specific still and grid reference - otherwise I's suggest you go and take a closer look - certainly on the southern stretches.

If you don't want to listen, then no-one is going to convince you.

You’ve just made yourself look a bit silly. Calm down and check your facts before you band around misinformation. All you had to do was give the road numbers where they were.

The A5 is not part of the Triangle, as mentioned already by Tickle. I also organised the tour for 9 cars so it would’ve been in my interest to get this right.

Yes, there are mobile cameras on the A5 but on a straight section where they can get a reading rather than windy, twisting parts of the Triangle. These are also not average speed cameras. When we were there one turned up on Sat night. If you choose to speed on the A5 then you are a bit of a dick as it cuts through quite a few hamlets.