Honda FK2 Type-R turbo thing
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So, after running the M5 for 2 years I randomly went out and chopped it in for a Type-R.
I wonder how this will end.
Anyway it's a GT packed one so it has all of the jazzy cameras and anti pedestrian death things.
It's a lot slower in a straight line than the BMW, obviously, but it feels about twice as fast 99% of the time, and like you're going to die, a lot.
I extended the warranty to 5 years for £250, 5 years servicing was £555, on a run I'm getting 42mpg and generally it gets about 28mpg.
It almost instantly had a Pipercross panel filter put on which makes the induction noise a lot better, which is nice because the car seems almost silent out of the back.
I wonder how this will end.
Anyway it's a GT packed one so it has all of the jazzy cameras and anti pedestrian death things.
It's a lot slower in a straight line than the BMW, obviously, but it feels about twice as fast 99% of the time, and like you're going to die, a lot.
I extended the warranty to 5 years for £250, 5 years servicing was £555, on a run I'm getting 42mpg and generally it gets about 28mpg.
It almost instantly had a Pipercross panel filter put on which makes the induction noise a lot better, which is nice because the car seems almost silent out of the back.
Edited by MuZiZZle on Wednesday 24th August 12:16
Cheers guys.
To be honest I wasn't looking for one.
I went out on a cars day with D4MJT, we went to look at an RS Focus, the Golf R, AMG things, and the Honda, mainly to laugh at it to be honest.
Now, I'm known to poke fun at Honda, and FWD, and Turbos. But as soon as I drove the car I was sold.
It's worlds apart from the M5, both in build, and power, but not in fun.
Now, what's strange is the reaction, I expected a lot of hate, obviously on the internet, that's a given, but in the real meat based world. Most people love it, and people comment on it, to me, in person. Now that's fine if you like people, but I'm not really a fan of the general public, I think I had about 2 people talk to me about the M5 in 2 years, and to me that was the tits compared to the civic.
Anyway, I'll keep this thread updated with my usual ownership ramblings.
I may pop in to Honda this week and see if my rear wing is on upside down, because it's not the best, amazingly.
To be honest I wasn't looking for one.
I went out on a cars day with D4MJT, we went to look at an RS Focus, the Golf R, AMG things, and the Honda, mainly to laugh at it to be honest.
Now, I'm known to poke fun at Honda, and FWD, and Turbos. But as soon as I drove the car I was sold.
It's worlds apart from the M5, both in build, and power, but not in fun.
Now, what's strange is the reaction, I expected a lot of hate, obviously on the internet, that's a given, but in the real meat based world. Most people love it, and people comment on it, to me, in person. Now that's fine if you like people, but I'm not really a fan of the general public, I think I had about 2 people talk to me about the M5 in 2 years, and to me that was the tits compared to the civic.
Anyway, I'll keep this thread updated with my usual ownership ramblings.
I may pop in to Honda this week and see if my rear wing is on upside down, because it's not the best, amazingly.
Edited by MuZiZZle on Monday 5th September 04:58
Randomly I've not missed the M5 at all, and the missus now doesn't think I'm having an affair with the girl at the local petrol station.
My commute is mainly A1 with a sprinkling of the 1231 and I'm averaging north of 40mpg still in each direction, what's interesting is that spirited motorway driving still returns 30, and a jaunt to Hartside is 25mpg, witchcraft.
Since I hadn't really payed any attention to what I was buying I was pleasantly surprised when I came to fold the rear seats down, it doesn't have the Honda "Magic" seats that slide back and forth, but due to the rear seats being some sort of comedy bench, when you fold the back down, the base drops, so the boot floor is flush with the now horizontal seat backs, it's a bloody Tardis! I got a full set of 19" BBS CH in it no bother at all.
I'm even starting to like the outside of it a bit.
Myself and D4MJT have been to Hartside in the car twice so far, this time it was another amazingly sunny day and we carried on to Penrith before following the same roads back, if I could get to the point where I drove the FK2 the same way we can drive the VTS it would be mind blowingly fast. I keep baking off the throttle, but I'm making more of an effort to keep the boost constant, I'm sure I'll get the hang of it again. Mandatory Hartside photo as expected.
The handling is superb in standard mode, however in +R it's borderline unusable on those roads, it's bad enough on urban roads. Now this is a bit annoying as the improved throttle response and fettled torque map and weightier steering are superb, if only you could pick and choose like the BM, argh!
My commute is mainly A1 with a sprinkling of the 1231 and I'm averaging north of 40mpg still in each direction, what's interesting is that spirited motorway driving still returns 30, and a jaunt to Hartside is 25mpg, witchcraft.
Since I hadn't really payed any attention to what I was buying I was pleasantly surprised when I came to fold the rear seats down, it doesn't have the Honda "Magic" seats that slide back and forth, but due to the rear seats being some sort of comedy bench, when you fold the back down, the base drops, so the boot floor is flush with the now horizontal seat backs, it's a bloody Tardis! I got a full set of 19" BBS CH in it no bother at all.
I'm even starting to like the outside of it a bit.
Myself and D4MJT have been to Hartside in the car twice so far, this time it was another amazingly sunny day and we carried on to Penrith before following the same roads back, if I could get to the point where I drove the FK2 the same way we can drive the VTS it would be mind blowingly fast. I keep baking off the throttle, but I'm making more of an effort to keep the boost constant, I'm sure I'll get the hang of it again. Mandatory Hartside photo as expected.
The handling is superb in standard mode, however in +R it's borderline unusable on those roads, it's bad enough on urban roads. Now this is a bit annoying as the improved throttle response and fettled torque map and weightier steering are superb, if only you could pick and choose like the BM, argh!
BlueHave said:
The wing is these is proper bonkers. Does it have any real effect at below 70mph?
When you shut the boot you worry it's going to snap off? other than that I'd doubt it. There's a video of one in a wind tunnel and the smoke trail that goes over the car is cut in half by the wing, so they appear to have fitted it in exactly the right spot, so I'm in no doubt that it's actually providing downforce at higher speeds, they're supposed to be a few mph slower top end without them, Japanese wind wizards!Well, it's now got just shy of 5500 miles on it and it's needing front tyres, which as horrific as that sounds, seems to be about normal.
I've not been doing burnouts left right and center, they just seem to eat tyres. The standard tyres are Continental Sport Contact 6's in a 235/35/19 flavor on a 8.5" rim front and rear, currently £156.76 on blackcircles, which just looks wrong, like this :
As a driver I find them terrible, they just don't seem to grip, and under cornering they have a habit of just slipping without warning, I don't really "feel" what they're doing.
I'm thinking of moving to a 235/35/19, specifically the Michelin Pilot Supersport, £205.87 on blackcircles, I like the idea of a wider tyre, and when I put them on the back of the E61 prior to selling it, it eliminated any loss of traction. Michelin are offering 6 months IFO on purchases over £250 which is nice. they should look like this on a 245 :
I'll feedback once I have the new rubber on.
I've not been doing burnouts left right and center, they just seem to eat tyres. The standard tyres are Continental Sport Contact 6's in a 235/35/19 flavor on a 8.5" rim front and rear, currently £156.76 on blackcircles, which just looks wrong, like this :
As a driver I find them terrible, they just don't seem to grip, and under cornering they have a habit of just slipping without warning, I don't really "feel" what they're doing.
I'm thinking of moving to a 235/35/19, specifically the Michelin Pilot Supersport, £205.87 on blackcircles, I like the idea of a wider tyre, and when I put them on the back of the E61 prior to selling it, it eliminated any loss of traction. Michelin are offering 6 months IFO on purchases over £250 which is nice. they should look like this on a 245 :
I'll feedback once I have the new rubber on.
Yeah that's the factory fitment, I'm sure there's some clever reason but they just look terrible.
A friend works at a Honda dealers and they had someone in for tyres after 3k!
As far as the car goes, build wise it's a massive step backwards from what I had, but I feel like I'm driving this car, rather than just being in it and holding on.
But the many hundreds of pounds a month extra in my pocket soften that blow, although I guess that'll be going on tyres! Agh! haha
A friend works at a Honda dealers and they had someone in for tyres after 3k!
As far as the car goes, build wise it's a massive step backwards from what I had, but I feel like I'm driving this car, rather than just being in it and holding on.
But the many hundreds of pounds a month extra in my pocket soften that blow, although I guess that'll be going on tyres! Agh! haha
kayzee said:
I like the slight stretch actually, but I understand why most people wouldn't.
Can't believe I've still not seen a single one of these on the roads! Seen maybe 10 Focus RS mk3s now.
I saw one last summer en route to the ring, promptly mocked it on facebook and that just popped up on my "on this day" feed, which is a bit awkward as I appear to have spent a good portion of the year mocking Honda's and their owners.Can't believe I've still not seen a single one of these on the roads! Seen maybe 10 Focus RS mk3s now.
I see quite a few, annoyingly, there's a black and a blue one at work!
Smokey32 said:
MPSS are great in the bone dry, but there pretty poor in anything but perfect conditions.
I persomnally think Conti Sport Contact 5p's are a great all round tyre for our roads and conditions.
Ive done a track day at Oulton park, 10 runs inc burnouts at Santa pod and about 4k miles on mine, on a 400bhp 400lbs'ft RWD merc and there still going strong.
Mine are CSC 6's, maybe the 6 is made of cheese?I persomnally think Conti Sport Contact 5p's are a great all round tyre for our roads and conditions.
Ive done a track day at Oulton park, 10 runs inc burnouts at Santa pod and about 4k miles on mine, on a 400bhp 400lbs'ft RWD merc and there still going strong.
It could be that it was an ex demo car and 2500 miles of its life were solid demo burnouts, but I put it down to the way it hops due to fwd, I got 16k out of some Pzeros on the back of the E61, my mechanic friend mocked me because he used to get 4-5k?!?! I presume he just left black 11's everywhere.
Anyway I've not used it much lately as I've been living the heated seat dream life in the Touran, until the rear brakes fell off a bit, but the FK2 did get some love this week. I decided to protect it a bit for winter so I got some Chemical guys Black Light gloss enhancer sealant stuff, some Poorboys Black Hole glaze, and some Collinite 476 wax.
The Black light is amazing, to the point that I didn't bother putting the Black hole on, it's very very glossy, I then locked that in with some Collinite. I'm still furious days after doing this at the amount of water that just pours out of all of the nooks and bodykit bits! waaah! I'm 110% going to get one of those car dryer blowy hoover things in the new year.
Anyway it turned out okay, I've now sort of grown to like how the car looks too, which is handy.
xjay1337 said:
Blacklight and Blackhole are basically identical products.
Did you sort the tyres? I liked these a lot, until I saw one up close. The fake vents really annoyed me and it went down in my estimations.
The way it looks is good but the tyres seem too small, I'd move to a 235/40 or a 245 40 to give it some chunk!
Glad you're enjoying it, I'm surprised you prefer it so much over the M5, then again Hot Hatches are the bomb.
I thought Black Light was a nano sealant and Black hole was a glaze Did you sort the tyres? I liked these a lot, until I saw one up close. The fake vents really annoyed me and it went down in my estimations.
The way it looks is good but the tyres seem too small, I'd move to a 235/40 or a 245 40 to give it some chunk!
Glad you're enjoying it, I'm surprised you prefer it so much over the M5, then again Hot Hatches are the bomb.
Which fake vents? as the wing ones work, as do the arch ones, I presume you mean the dash ones as little to no hot air comes out of those.
I wouldn't say I prefer it to the M5, it's a totally different car, it's a HELL of a lot cheaper to run though.
Well the car has just had its first service, 12 months old yesterday it was!
Service was fee under the service package.
7,500 miles on it 4,300 of which under my ownership.
Nothing to report at all, everything is fine with it, the trip computer is a bit off and I'm actually managing 27.97 mpg in reality.
It's still 50% cheaper on fuel than the M5 at the very least, mmmm, M5, mmmmm.
Service was fee under the service package.
7,500 miles on it 4,300 of which under my ownership.
Nothing to report at all, everything is fine with it, the trip computer is a bit off and I'm actually managing 27.97 mpg in reality.
It's still 50% cheaper on fuel than the M5 at the very least, mmmm, M5, mmmmm.
Crikey it's been a while since it updated this, I've still got it, I fitted a droney B-Pipe so it now emits noise.
I also bought a car specific plate for maximum scene points.
I also went to the Ring in it, it's very good, This summer I'm tempted to go the semi slicks route though.
Mandatory ring pic.
I also bought a car specific plate for maximum scene points.
I also went to the Ring in it, it's very good, This summer I'm tempted to go the semi slicks route though.
Mandatory ring pic.
Sillyhatday said:
Looks fantastic! How was it traveling to the ring? I nearly got myself one a few months back. This isn't helping 
I drove from Newcastle upon Tyne, the B-Pipe isn't exactly fun but it was comfortable enough, we stopped in dartford overnight on the way, did the return trip in a single day.I think I averaged 39mpg and I was doing 70 ish most of the time, very ish
tozerman said:
Your Mrs looks like she is sh*tting herself in that ring pic :LOL:
How do you get your Mrs to go with you to the Ring ? share your secrets....
Good thread, enjoyed reading it.
Cheers.....Tony..
I would have just gone without her so I presume she’s do anything to escape the kids!How do you get your Mrs to go with you to the Ring ? share your secrets....
Good thread, enjoyed reading it.
Cheers.....Tony..
It’s actually funny because she’s fine being a passenger because she’s a very competent driver, but a few minutes earlier she asked me to slow it down slightly as she was feeling a bit sick, then that M3 came into view.
Not long after that photo, needless to say I should have slowed down 🙈
I've still got this, it's got 26k on it now.
I took the B pipe off it, it's just had front and rear pads and a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S 245/35/R19.
It's also just had it's first MOT with not a single advisory, the clock has been ticking to get rid since I bought it but nothing is blowing my skirt up really.
I took the B pipe off it, it's just had front and rear pads and a set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 S 245/35/R19.
It's also just had it's first MOT with not a single advisory, the clock has been ticking to get rid since I bought it but nothing is blowing my skirt up really.
danzman1991 said:
Do you still have it?!
I do, it just works still!It's going to need front brakes soon so I plan on putting the FK8 floating discs on, also the front wings have flaked due to the weather getting under the
chips, this happens a lot.
So this summer it'll be getting the wheels and wings done, and maybe the roof.
Other than that it's a frugal fun machine / van
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