Got myself an SVR, say hello to a British hotrod/muscle car
Discussion
Hi there
Having sold my Mustang (S550.1) and having another MY18 Mustang GT on order, I was using a Stage 2 MK7 Golf R which was an absolutely cracking car. Having looked at 911's, R8 V10's and AMG GT's they were all missing some of the soul and character the Mustang has, a big loud shouty V8 and not having to be driven at warp speed to even remotely enjoy them.
So I was running out of ideas, then someone mentioned F-Type, a car I had completely forgotten about, so I was all set to get myself an R AWD Coupe, but instead I decided to think you only live once, so get the big shouty one, as such I am now rocking in an SVR.
Got it from main Jaguar dealership here in the UK, so it has a full warranty and apart from just enjoying and driving the car, all I have done so far is essentially give it a real good cleaning and wax protection, along with a good cleaning of the interior, as such here are some photos:
Some lovely beading going on now.
Now for me a big part of my enjoyment with a car is modding, hence loving Mustangs, problem with the SVR though its not such a major issue is that it is properly sorted from the factory.
The keen eyed will also spot my car has the carbon exterior design pack and carbon roof, it also has the uprated Meridian sound system, powered tailgate, winter pack, visibility pack, blind spot monitoring and some other options.
My plans for the car are pretty short but I would like to do:
- Paint correction, there are some minor swirls in the paint, so want to get these corrected with a proper polish.
- The brake disc are heavy solid 1pc items, very durable and effective but of course some lighter two-piece disc would be welcomed though no one seems to sell any???
- I dislike the red caliper colour and the rear calipers are the nasty single piston type where you can see the pad. I am going to see if the XKR-S rear caliper plates that cover the pad part also fit on the F-Type or can be modified to fit. I will then get the calipers re-painted most likely in yellow but may consider other colour options.
- Once the Pzero are worn, because just like on other cars the Pzero is not the best, as such when these are worn out (7mm front / 6mm rear) I shall fit PS4S, but that probably won't happen until next year.
- I may change the wheels to the diamond cut ones that come with the ceramic option or repaint these satin grey like Jaguar offered as gloss black wheels are not so much my thing, but admittedly these do work quite well with the car, when clean.
- Hell I might even do a full on ceramic brake conversion in a year or two, but at around £8000 it is a lot of money for just some minor cosmetics, as the stock brakes are very effective.
That is it to be honest, the power is pretty savage and ferocious, JLR claim 3.7s to 60mph but it feels much quicker than that and even in the current cold and wet UK condition it grips amazingly well for standing starts.
Still taking it easy in the corners but it feels pretty planted but is RWD biased absolutely and will happily wag its tail even at legal speeds which makes it a lot of fun and the noise is purely obnoxious but that is why I like it. This has to be the first car I have owned where the need for an aftermarket exhaust is simply not there, plus the SVR has some F1 crazy material exhaust to make it light so I'd only be a fool to change that.
Here are some videos, you might have to click the links to see them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7omHnHT7i5g
Really looking forward to dry weather now and getting it down to Santa Pod in February when it re-opens for some 1/4 mile fun.
Having sold my Mustang (S550.1) and having another MY18 Mustang GT on order, I was using a Stage 2 MK7 Golf R which was an absolutely cracking car. Having looked at 911's, R8 V10's and AMG GT's they were all missing some of the soul and character the Mustang has, a big loud shouty V8 and not having to be driven at warp speed to even remotely enjoy them.
So I was running out of ideas, then someone mentioned F-Type, a car I had completely forgotten about, so I was all set to get myself an R AWD Coupe, but instead I decided to think you only live once, so get the big shouty one, as such I am now rocking in an SVR.
Got it from main Jaguar dealership here in the UK, so it has a full warranty and apart from just enjoying and driving the car, all I have done so far is essentially give it a real good cleaning and wax protection, along with a good cleaning of the interior, as such here are some photos:
Some lovely beading going on now.
Now for me a big part of my enjoyment with a car is modding, hence loving Mustangs, problem with the SVR though its not such a major issue is that it is properly sorted from the factory.
The keen eyed will also spot my car has the carbon exterior design pack and carbon roof, it also has the uprated Meridian sound system, powered tailgate, winter pack, visibility pack, blind spot monitoring and some other options.
My plans for the car are pretty short but I would like to do:
- Paint correction, there are some minor swirls in the paint, so want to get these corrected with a proper polish.
- The brake disc are heavy solid 1pc items, very durable and effective but of course some lighter two-piece disc would be welcomed though no one seems to sell any???
- I dislike the red caliper colour and the rear calipers are the nasty single piston type where you can see the pad. I am going to see if the XKR-S rear caliper plates that cover the pad part also fit on the F-Type or can be modified to fit. I will then get the calipers re-painted most likely in yellow but may consider other colour options.
- Once the Pzero are worn, because just like on other cars the Pzero is not the best, as such when these are worn out (7mm front / 6mm rear) I shall fit PS4S, but that probably won't happen until next year.
- I may change the wheels to the diamond cut ones that come with the ceramic option or repaint these satin grey like Jaguar offered as gloss black wheels are not so much my thing, but admittedly these do work quite well with the car, when clean.
- Hell I might even do a full on ceramic brake conversion in a year or two, but at around £8000 it is a lot of money for just some minor cosmetics, as the stock brakes are very effective.
That is it to be honest, the power is pretty savage and ferocious, JLR claim 3.7s to 60mph but it feels much quicker than that and even in the current cold and wet UK condition it grips amazingly well for standing starts.
Still taking it easy in the corners but it feels pretty planted but is RWD biased absolutely and will happily wag its tail even at legal speeds which makes it a lot of fun and the noise is purely obnoxious but that is why I like it. This has to be the first car I have owned where the need for an aftermarket exhaust is simply not there, plus the SVR has some F1 crazy material exhaust to make it light so I'd only be a fool to change that.
Here are some videos, you might have to click the links to see them:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7omHnHT7i5g
Really looking forward to dry weather now and getting it down to Santa Pod in February when it re-opens for some 1/4 mile fun.
Gilhooligan said:
Very nice. Best colour too. Can you spec these without the spoiler? That's the only thing I don't like.
Yes you can, there happens to be one for sale which I dismissed as I really wanted the spoiler, but here it is:https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2016-16-JAGUAR-F-TYPE-5...
The blue ones are selling pretty fast, I lost one due to not being quick enough, hence jumped on the one I have now especially as I love carbon and mine has the carbon pack and carbon roof.
OzzyR1 said:
Agreed, I'd have never seen it in Jaguar.
Love these, firmly on my "must own one day" list.
Cheers for sharing OP.
No problem at all, just gotta watch out for the forum police. Love these, firmly on my "must own one day" list.
Cheers for sharing OP.
Likewise I come to this section to see about owners pride and joy as I don't get checking each manufacturer sub section.
Hi there
So as I have being taking more photos of the car, I have been spotting more panel gaps and for me once I spot these things it drives me mad, it has to be perfect. You could argue on a car costing over 100k it should be perfect but it does seem from the Jaguar forums F-Type panel gap, alignment is not their strong point with many customers taking cars back to dealerships to get corrected. As I did not spot this at collecting and when I informed the dealer via email a few days after to which I got zero response I decided to not pursue the matter as it was something I could resolve myself.
My biggest issue was the fact the bonnet was sitting high on the left side, so high in fact that a good 4-5" was protruding from the bumper, not as bad as it sounds but once I had spotted it, it was standing out to me like a sore thumb:
I have marked the image with arrows to clearly point it out, a good 5-6mm high on left side and not flush with bumper which drivers side is. So under the bonnet there is six rubber height adjusters I had a play with these and the best I could do was to actually rise the drivers side to match which just seemed a bit of a cheating way to do it and really the bonnet should be level/flush with bumper with an equal panel gap all the way along, this gap was equal just the bonnet was sitting high on left.
So I looked at the hinges and noticed they have stops which are bolts and I was able to screw the left side down some which helped considerably but it was still out. So I went the more risky route and undid the three main hinge bolts and tried to lower the hinge a couple of mm, this took at a lot of attempts as the assembly moves in all directions, I'd ideally recommend two people for this, but in the end I located the hinge 2mm lower, which then resulted in being two low due to leverage ratio, but I then screwed the hinge stop out a couple of turns and we are now at this:
In person it looks perfect, but now I look at photo and the left still looks maybe ever such a touch bit to high, but I can easily remedy that with just rubber stops, though it could just be the photo as now in person it looks perfect level, flush and straight, checked also every other panel gap and alignment around the bonnet as you adjust one can effect others, all I had to do was adjust front bumper out edge to left side bonnet which is easy as just two 10mm bolts. But now I look at the car and cannot see fault in person, whereas before it was starting to annoy me some.
Then a few days ago I posted this photo of the rear:
Of course as soon as I upload the photo I spot the boot is sitting high on the left, clearly whoever checked this car from factory had wonky eyes or the bubble in their spirit level was not calibrated.
So using the two rubber stops in the tailgate I got it level but only by adjusting the right side up which for me was not good enough. So I removed all the boot trim to gain access to the locking mechanism as it was obvious the lock needed to pull the tailgate down just a touch more. I undid the locking mechanism and moved it down a couple of mm, then re-tightened, re-adjusted the height adjusters and its now at this:
Which is now perfect level and in line with the rear quarters which is where it should be.
As a major complaint on the various forums is doors being a poor fit and even rubbing, I gave the doors a good check, but those are perfect.
Crazy that in this day and age you have to do this on any car, but the Mustang also had the same issue problem was there they were not quite as easy to fix on some, though the bonnet fix on Mustang was same as boot fix on Jaguar and just needed the catch height adjusting.
Anyway as I've still not posted a picture, here is the power plant:
Not much to look out, just a big silver square, looks like quite a compact supercharger unit.
So as I have being taking more photos of the car, I have been spotting more panel gaps and for me once I spot these things it drives me mad, it has to be perfect. You could argue on a car costing over 100k it should be perfect but it does seem from the Jaguar forums F-Type panel gap, alignment is not their strong point with many customers taking cars back to dealerships to get corrected. As I did not spot this at collecting and when I informed the dealer via email a few days after to which I got zero response I decided to not pursue the matter as it was something I could resolve myself.
My biggest issue was the fact the bonnet was sitting high on the left side, so high in fact that a good 4-5" was protruding from the bumper, not as bad as it sounds but once I had spotted it, it was standing out to me like a sore thumb:
I have marked the image with arrows to clearly point it out, a good 5-6mm high on left side and not flush with bumper which drivers side is. So under the bonnet there is six rubber height adjusters I had a play with these and the best I could do was to actually rise the drivers side to match which just seemed a bit of a cheating way to do it and really the bonnet should be level/flush with bumper with an equal panel gap all the way along, this gap was equal just the bonnet was sitting high on left.
So I looked at the hinges and noticed they have stops which are bolts and I was able to screw the left side down some which helped considerably but it was still out. So I went the more risky route and undid the three main hinge bolts and tried to lower the hinge a couple of mm, this took at a lot of attempts as the assembly moves in all directions, I'd ideally recommend two people for this, but in the end I located the hinge 2mm lower, which then resulted in being two low due to leverage ratio, but I then screwed the hinge stop out a couple of turns and we are now at this:
In person it looks perfect, but now I look at photo and the left still looks maybe ever such a touch bit to high, but I can easily remedy that with just rubber stops, though it could just be the photo as now in person it looks perfect level, flush and straight, checked also every other panel gap and alignment around the bonnet as you adjust one can effect others, all I had to do was adjust front bumper out edge to left side bonnet which is easy as just two 10mm bolts. But now I look at the car and cannot see fault in person, whereas before it was starting to annoy me some.
Then a few days ago I posted this photo of the rear:
Of course as soon as I upload the photo I spot the boot is sitting high on the left, clearly whoever checked this car from factory had wonky eyes or the bubble in their spirit level was not calibrated.
So using the two rubber stops in the tailgate I got it level but only by adjusting the right side up which for me was not good enough. So I removed all the boot trim to gain access to the locking mechanism as it was obvious the lock needed to pull the tailgate down just a touch more. I undid the locking mechanism and moved it down a couple of mm, then re-tightened, re-adjusted the height adjusters and its now at this:
Which is now perfect level and in line with the rear quarters which is where it should be.
As a major complaint on the various forums is doors being a poor fit and even rubbing, I gave the doors a good check, but those are perfect.
Crazy that in this day and age you have to do this on any car, but the Mustang also had the same issue problem was there they were not quite as easy to fix on some, though the bonnet fix on Mustang was same as boot fix on Jaguar and just needed the catch height adjusting.
Anyway as I've still not posted a picture, here is the power plant:
Not much to look out, just a big silver square, looks like quite a compact supercharger unit.
RenesisEvo said:
The SVR was never fitted with a big engine cover over the supercharger - to save a little bit of weight.
This but it was also to do with heat as the cover retains heat and for the SVR they felt the cover risked over heating or loss of power due to increased head temps.MellowshipSlinky said:
Thanks for that snippet of info.
I guess when you’ve already got over 550 bhp, a few being lost due to heat is really noticeable...
If mine did have a cover, I'd ditch it anyway, keep the engine cooler as long as its upto temperature is always a good thing so I tend to remove engine covers on my cars anyway.I guess when you’ve already got over 550 bhp, a few being lost due to heat is really noticeable...
Some very minor tweaking today using the two front rubber height adjusters, very happy now in person looks perfect and even the photos seem to back that up too.
Also found a set of the same wheels but in the satin grey for a good price, tempted to grab those, put them in storage until Winter is over and throw a set of PS4S on those.
Also found a set of the same wheels but in the satin grey for a good price, tempted to grab those, put them in storage until Winter is over and throw a set of PS4S on those.
dme123 said:
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t. Has it been in a minor smash that knocked all the panels into alignment? 
I'd have kept the wonky gaps. That's your British Heritage, man!
Haha!t. Has it been in a minor smash that knocked all the panels into alignment? I'd have kept the wonky gaps. That's your British Heritage, man!
Went to Jaguar dealership today, checked a few in the showroom and F-types, XE's some were fine and some had wonky panel gaps, like you say British heritage.
I suspect on mine it was maybe not so bad on day 1 but I suspect some people and opened and closed the bonnet incorrectly twisting it slightly as there is a correct method of opening and closing which if you were not aware you'd mess it up.
Hi there
Many people probably buy these kind of cars and don't drive them, but I am sure it will make many people here happy to discover this car is actually my daily and shall be driven all year round.
So any kind of issues, failures or of course trouble free running I get I shall document in this thread along with servicing and consumables cost.
So far I am thoroughly enjoying the car, the ZF8 is really superb in this car, I normally dislike torque converter automatics, but at the same time no longer wanted manual any more. I find this gearbox fantastic in both auto and on the paddles it is very snappy and responsive.
Really enjoying the drive, I do have some very minor modifications lined up and intend on cleaning up the brake calipers as they look a bit grotty so shall get re-painted in either red or yellow. Don't think any other colour would work, well maybe blue but not so sure.
Many people probably buy these kind of cars and don't drive them, but I am sure it will make many people here happy to discover this car is actually my daily and shall be driven all year round.
So any kind of issues, failures or of course trouble free running I get I shall document in this thread along with servicing and consumables cost.
So far I am thoroughly enjoying the car, the ZF8 is really superb in this car, I normally dislike torque converter automatics, but at the same time no longer wanted manual any more. I find this gearbox fantastic in both auto and on the paddles it is very snappy and responsive.
Really enjoying the drive, I do have some very minor modifications lined up and intend on cleaning up the brake calipers as they look a bit grotty so shall get re-painted in either red or yellow. Don't think any other colour would work, well maybe blue but not so sure.
MellowshipSlinky said:
To close it, you should push on the bonnet vents with equal force each side or else there’s a chance it can twist.
This is indeed correct.My trip to work is 11 miles and consist of some small town driving, country roads and dual carriage way blast with traffic generally OK. So far on this trip I have managed:
- Worse: 8.1mpg
- Best: 21.3mpg
Of course on my worse journey it was dry and roads were clear so once warmed up I drove like it was a lap of the ring.
But if you just drive normal the car is impressively economical for its engine size and power on tap, which is no doubt due to the ZF8 automatic box, though I have discovered using the paddles even when just driving gently keeping it in high gears does improve the economy slightly.
The engine is super responsive, it pulls hard from 1000rpm and does not really die off until 6500rpm, so in that respect it is impressive and the throttle response and how savage it is purely addictive and everytime I smile or giggle like a girl, especially when you lift of and the theatre of gun shots, explosions, burps, gargles fire at the four quad tips.
Hi there
So as you know I was unsure on gloss black wheels, simply not my style, though admittedly when clean they did look rather nice on the car, but for me a grey/silver looked even nicer and I think suited the lighter blue colour, I think a red, dark blue and even silver would really work well with gloss black but on this shade of blue and with all the carbon fibre I was just disliking it, plus they show up dirt being glossy, great wheels for a garage queen, not so much for a daily user.
As such just picked these up, 4 brand new genuine SVR forged wheels in the grey:
I could of re-painted the black wheels, but I would of lost the SVR logos and as such I did not want to paint an original item and lose some of the authenticity of the car by doing so. As such buying another set was only the other option.
Now I was going to transfer my current tyres and TPMS over to these wheels, but I have made the decision instead to simply sell the current set of wheels, so wheels, tyres, TPMS and bolts and fit all brand to the new wheels and take this opportunity to get some PS4S tyres on the car.
Now my question, stock the car runs Pirelli Pzero PZ4 265/35/20 and 305/30/20 99Y tyres front and year.
My issue is on the rear the PS4S is a 103Y rated tyre, this is to do with loading, now my understanding of tyres is this relates to the tyre wall strength to handle the weight on that axle, I am sure the better compound of the Michelin will result in no adverse effects and even if so the car currently runs 37psi all round cold, so in theory to compensate I could maybe run 37psi front and 35psi rear. I am sure I need to have zero worries and the tyres will probably be in another league anyway, I shall also ask Michelin if they do a 99Y load rated tyre in that size.
I've also got some XFR-S rear caliper plates to cover the pad area which fit very nice, so those will go on and then calipers get a fresh painting, still un-decided on colour but thinking red, yellow or similar blue to the car.
P.S. I weighed the wheels to confirm if they are forged or not. The fronts weigh in at 12.5kg and the rears are 14kg which does indeed confirm they are flowforged wheels. A cast wheel of this size would be several kilos heavier.
P.S.1 I now have a spare set of gloss black SVR forged wheels, with near new Pzero "PZ4" tyres, TPMS and bolts for sale.
So as you know I was unsure on gloss black wheels, simply not my style, though admittedly when clean they did look rather nice on the car, but for me a grey/silver looked even nicer and I think suited the lighter blue colour, I think a red, dark blue and even silver would really work well with gloss black but on this shade of blue and with all the carbon fibre I was just disliking it, plus they show up dirt being glossy, great wheels for a garage queen, not so much for a daily user.
As such just picked these up, 4 brand new genuine SVR forged wheels in the grey:
I could of re-painted the black wheels, but I would of lost the SVR logos and as such I did not want to paint an original item and lose some of the authenticity of the car by doing so. As such buying another set was only the other option.
Now I was going to transfer my current tyres and TPMS over to these wheels, but I have made the decision instead to simply sell the current set of wheels, so wheels, tyres, TPMS and bolts and fit all brand to the new wheels and take this opportunity to get some PS4S tyres on the car.
Now my question, stock the car runs Pirelli Pzero PZ4 265/35/20 and 305/30/20 99Y tyres front and year.
My issue is on the rear the PS4S is a 103Y rated tyre, this is to do with loading, now my understanding of tyres is this relates to the tyre wall strength to handle the weight on that axle, I am sure the better compound of the Michelin will result in no adverse effects and even if so the car currently runs 37psi all round cold, so in theory to compensate I could maybe run 37psi front and 35psi rear. I am sure I need to have zero worries and the tyres will probably be in another league anyway, I shall also ask Michelin if they do a 99Y load rated tyre in that size.
I've also got some XFR-S rear caliper plates to cover the pad area which fit very nice, so those will go on and then calipers get a fresh painting, still un-decided on colour but thinking red, yellow or similar blue to the car.
P.S. I weighed the wheels to confirm if they are forged or not. The fronts weigh in at 12.5kg and the rears are 14kg which does indeed confirm they are flowforged wheels. A cast wheel of this size would be several kilos heavier.
P.S.1 I now have a spare set of gloss black SVR forged wheels, with near new Pzero "PZ4" tyres, TPMS and bolts for sale.
Edited by Gibbo205 on Friday 5th January 23:03
KungFuPanda said:
What a coincidence. My friend just picked up a set of those exact same wheels from Jaguar in Bolton. I was surprised at how cheap they were.
Well they are £3000 from Jaguar new as I believe they are forged and lighter than the rest of the Jaguar wheels for SVR.But this set was removed from a brand new showroom car as the customer buying wanted gloss black, so these were removed and then became aged stock, so I got them for a 3rd of that price and essentially they have zero miles, just being on a car in showroom on display and then removed.
Bargain really.
I am now selling my gloss black ones, tyres and sensors as shall just fit new tyres and sensors to these.
Hi there
Not a lot to report, but I spotted one of the carbon vents seem to not be flush, upon closer inspection the retaining clip was missing and the plastic tabs broken. I reported this and at first Jaguar were not so interested, so I went back to the dealer I purchased from and said look it was like this at collection because the photos you sent me it can be seen:
Drivers side vent is sitting a touch high, very hard to see, but once I knew it was there, needed resolving.
Drove to Landrover Chester today, who fitted a new vent, put my plate on also.
Happy that is fixed, retail price is £815 +VAT per vent, crazy, obviously they do not cost Jaguar that, but it is to prevent in short people buying the parts to make a regular F-type look like an SVR.
Not a lot to report, but I spotted one of the carbon vents seem to not be flush, upon closer inspection the retaining clip was missing and the plastic tabs broken. I reported this and at first Jaguar were not so interested, so I went back to the dealer I purchased from and said look it was like this at collection because the photos you sent me it can be seen:
Drivers side vent is sitting a touch high, very hard to see, but once I knew it was there, needed resolving.
Drove to Landrover Chester today, who fitted a new vent, put my plate on also.
Happy that is fixed, retail price is £815 +VAT per vent, crazy, obviously they do not cost Jaguar that, but it is to prevent in short people buying the parts to make a regular F-type look like an SVR.
Hi there
So jobs done today:
- New wheels fitted and ceramic coated for protection
- PS4S tyres fitted in stock sizes (305/30/20 rear & 265/35/20 front)
- Rear Jaguar caliper plates fitted to cover brake pads
- Front wing adjusted to perfect alignment
- Thorough inspection of underside, no leaks, zero issues and signs of rust or corrosion.
- British flag valve caps added, it is the small touches.
Some pictures, car is not particular clean and tyres have the white gunk all over them, need to get some soap and give the tyres a good wash and then get some meguiars tyre black on the go, which is about the only tyre gel that seems to work on PS4S due to the fuzzy sidewalls they have.
Jobs to do:
- Fit 5mm spacers all round just to push wheels out a touch, very minor.
- Fit black wheel nuts, will go better with grey wheels than chrome.
- Alignment check and adjust.
- The rear caliper plates stand out like a sore thumb due to them being brand new so glossy red and the rest of the caliper in desperate need of a refurb. All the calipers shall be re-painted in the future, either in red or yellow with black jaguar writing on fronts and black SVR logos on the rear plates, at which point it will all blend nicely.
Just me adding my little touches to the car, very minor details as the car does not need for much as Jaguar pretty much nailed it out the factory.
No needback on PS4S, need to scrub them in first.
So jobs done today:
- New wheels fitted and ceramic coated for protection
- PS4S tyres fitted in stock sizes (305/30/20 rear & 265/35/20 front)
- Rear Jaguar caliper plates fitted to cover brake pads
- Front wing adjusted to perfect alignment
- Thorough inspection of underside, no leaks, zero issues and signs of rust or corrosion.
- British flag valve caps added, it is the small touches.
Some pictures, car is not particular clean and tyres have the white gunk all over them, need to get some soap and give the tyres a good wash and then get some meguiars tyre black on the go, which is about the only tyre gel that seems to work on PS4S due to the fuzzy sidewalls they have.
Jobs to do:
- Fit 5mm spacers all round just to push wheels out a touch, very minor.
- Fit black wheel nuts, will go better with grey wheels than chrome.
- Alignment check and adjust.
- The rear caliper plates stand out like a sore thumb due to them being brand new so glossy red and the rest of the caliper in desperate need of a refurb. All the calipers shall be re-painted in the future, either in red or yellow with black jaguar writing on fronts and black SVR logos on the rear plates, at which point it will all blend nicely.
Just me adding my little touches to the car, very minor details as the car does not need for much as Jaguar pretty much nailed it out the factory.
No needback on PS4S, need to scrub them in first.
I removed near new Pzero "PZ4" J spec from my SVR as on all my cars which alarmingly came fitted with Pzero form factory all had unpredictable handling and in the RWD 911 and Mustang made them almost frightening.
In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.
On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.
Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.
Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.
My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.
On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.
Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.
In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.
I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.
On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.
In short Michelin>Pirelli !!
My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.
In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.
On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.
Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.
Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.
My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.
On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.
Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.
In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.
I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.
On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.
In short Michelin>Pirelli !!
My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.
Hi there
So gone from this today:
It was a good looking car but for me I disliked the gloss black wheels and red calipers, as such I've changed both to a colour combination which suits me better. I also did small details like changing the wheel nuts from chrome to black and the wheel centre caps from red to black/chrome.
Really happy with the result, cocked up a little on the logo as did not centre it perfectly which was a bit of a boo boo, but once the wheel was on the car cannot really tell. For now left rears blank with no logo at all, might add something or may just not bother. Was hoping to just add "SVR" to them but can only find "R" logos.
Also when I joined the M1 this morning I got flashed twice, assuming a camera but upon looking down I was only doing 78mph so seems they have cranked up the sensitivity, shall see if I get a summons as the overhead gantries were not illuminated.
Also polished to remove swirls from the carbon parts and added a protective ceramic coating. All that is left now is a paint correction on the painted body parts and seal. Also trip their I averaged 31mpg for whole 150 miles and return journey was a door to door average of 35mpg which I am impressed by as there was quite some heavy traffic so parked on motorway. 300 miles and still just over a quarter of tank left, not bad for 600HP near as dammit.
So gone from this today:
It was a good looking car but for me I disliked the gloss black wheels and red calipers, as such I've changed both to a colour combination which suits me better. I also did small details like changing the wheel nuts from chrome to black and the wheel centre caps from red to black/chrome.
Really happy with the result, cocked up a little on the logo as did not centre it perfectly which was a bit of a boo boo, but once the wheel was on the car cannot really tell. For now left rears blank with no logo at all, might add something or may just not bother. Was hoping to just add "SVR" to them but can only find "R" logos.
Also when I joined the M1 this morning I got flashed twice, assuming a camera but upon looking down I was only doing 78mph so seems they have cranked up the sensitivity, shall see if I get a summons as the overhead gantries were not illuminated.
Also polished to remove swirls from the carbon parts and added a protective ceramic coating. All that is left now is a paint correction on the painted body parts and seal. Also trip their I averaged 31mpg for whole 150 miles and return journey was a door to door average of 35mpg which I am impressed by as there was quite some heavy traffic so parked on motorway. 300 miles and still just over a quarter of tank left, not bad for 600HP near as dammit.
CaptainSensib1e said:
Couldn't agree more on the PZeros. Have them on my Mustang and thye have been a right PITA over the winter. Such unpredicatable handling, especially when cold/wet, can break traction with virtually no provokation. A different tyre in the warm/dry, grippy and confidence inspiring.
Going to tough out the rest of winter, enjoy spring/summer/autumn with them, and then get some PS4S for next winter.
Exactly what I did with my Mustang, I just survived on the Pzero during the first winter. Once I'd warn the rears out, which surprisingly only took 4000 miles I fitted MPSS all round and for me they were better than Pzero at everything, grip, handling, subjective feel and even better the rears lasted over 10,000 miles, over double distance and the car was way more confident inspiring in all weather particular wet and cold.Going to tough out the rest of winter, enjoy spring/summer/autumn with them, and then get some PS4S for next winter.
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