A Caravan of Clios - Mk1 16v, Mk2 Sports

A Caravan of Clios - Mk1 16v, Mk2 Sports

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Coops-Clio-F4R

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Sunday 28th June 2020
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Bonjour

Figured I'd pop a possibly never ending post up to assemble all my. French scrap into one contingent yet probably unintelligible heap here.

I've always had Clio's, probably as I'm cheap, every since I passed my test in 2001. As such despite numerous other vehicles in-between, around and alongside there's always been one or two in the stable.

Currently on a fleet of four as follows:

2004 182 - cup packed, carbon infused daily that sees track from time to time. Just clicked over 215k miles on original engine and gearbox and it's still a hoot to drive every day on my Derbyshire A and B road commute.

2001 172 - phase 1, been a daily all its life until I picked it up 3 years ago for a small chunk of change. Spent some time and money resurrecting it after ear marked as a breaker and now a keeper, lovely thing.

1994 1.8 16v - bought over a decade ago as low boost turbo car. Went high boost under my jurisdiction and took me to low 12 second quarter miles in basically road trim. Blew up under the demands of track work and left to rot since. My forever car though so slowly being revived

1993 1.8 16v - track car, replaced the above as the naturally aspirated heart just works for all the abuse it takes. 212bhp and 860kg is a riot and all the bolt on goodies leaves a very capable heap!

Anyway few pics and I'll perhaps update a bit going forward if anyone cares.

Cheers

Ben






Coops-Clio-F4R

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Janosh said:
Wow, this is a blast from the past! Same Coops that I remember from the Williams forum??
Sure is, still stuck in the Clio ointment as it were. Tried to leave via saabs, vw's, vauxhall and mazda....boomerang'd straight on back

Coops-Clio-F4R

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frayz said:
Nice to see them all in one thread Ben.
Frayz from CS biggrin
Hey up Frayz, I'll pop a spec list and more pics for each car to keep a little summary in here. Bit easier than the 4 project threads on Cliosport.net

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Cheers all, I'll do a mini feature on the past, present and future of each car over next week or so as time allows.

Robmarriott said:
Did the grey Mk1 have a C1J in it many moons ago?
It didn't no chap, the plate was a homage or a nod really as it was boosted but on the newer F7P engine it was equipped from factory with.

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Right, I'll begin at the end as it were with the newest to the stable

2001 Renaultsport Clio 172 - phase 1 in odyssey blue.

Current spec:

- Cup spoiler
- 10mm rear stub spacers
- 16mm front hubcentric spacers
- Bilstein B14 road spec coilovers
- Clio 182 Trophy oem fit Recaro Trendline seats
- Andrew Mayer (also known as snappy) steering wheel retrim in blue leather and grey suede
- ktec stealth resonated stainless exhaust
- Sony mini disc head unit
- few flocked bits
- garment carrier parcel shelf
- early model aluminium bonnet retrofit

Bought the car back in 2017 for 600 quid on a whim as needed some bits for my mk1 track car and this came with few tasty parts, so idea was kill it for spares. However drove the thing for a few weeks and realised was waaaay to good to break. I'm the fourth owner, cars just now clicked over 154k miles but looks and drives half that mileage. Very solid chassis, these early model sports are buggers for sills rotting from the inside out. Comprehensive service history and the car is currently with a very well reputed Renault specialist having engine out mega service consisting of:

- cambelt kit
- aux belt kit
- dephaser pulley
- harmonic balancer aux pulley
- sump gasket
- crank oil seal
- aircon seals
- all fluids and filters
- clutch
- control cables

So should be immaculate when back.

Plan is to basically enjoy the car and continue to tidy up the paintwork this year. Clean and waxoyl underside over winter when off the road and full subframe and rear beam off suspension refresh next year.

Anyway, her she is, one of only 116 made for the UK market in this colour.












Coops-Clio-F4R

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Monday 29th June 2020
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Ahh, takes me back. I think I vaguely remember you from all those years ago on Williamsclio etc. Here were my 2 valvers:

Love a bit of Ph1 Mk2 action as well cool
Ai I remember you too matey from the Williamsclio days, presume your out the Clio and perhaps even Renault game now?

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Swervin_Mervin said:
I am chap. Got myself a 197 in '08 but still had ULF. That took an off-road knock and I never got around to fixing the subframe. In the end someone bought the valver to break (the shell was knackered tbh). Sold the 197 in '12 - I never gelled with it like I did my valvers, and nothing Renault have done since has interested me. That and the customer service I had with the 197 convinced me I'd never have another new one. I've been in an E91 330i ever since. The high-revving N/A bug has never left me at least!

Occasionally I do think about finding a nice valver again for the garage, but there's too many other options on my list!

Are they still horrendously costly to run? That's the one thing I seem to remember from those days - the costs when broken down to £/mo were eye-watering! I guess parts aren't that easy to come by anymore either?
Tbh I've never found just running costs an issue, it's modding....particularly turbocharging that causes the bank account pain!

Yeah know few folks who bailed out on the mk3 cars and the couldn't find a decent mk1 to go back to and thusly gave up. Shame as the mk1 and mk2 are great cars. But yeah parts and chassis in good nick for all of them are getting harder and harder to source. Luckily Mat Brown is still going and has most of the bits we'll all ever need....for the right price

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Tuesday 30th June 2020
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Janosh said:
Good to see these being loved, as above I’m keen to know more about the Mk1..! I still miss my old Williams (0062) and fondly remember the forum track days where everyone was chasing Martin’s ‘banana’
Yeah I remember those days on the forums and still flying the flag to this day.......0062 you say....i may of committed a cardinal sin with that car ....... sorry



Coops-Clio-F4R

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Tuesday 30th June 2020
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cheers for support everyone else, realise I'm like a broken record with clios, variety appears to not be my motoring strong point so nice to see some interest, lol

And yes Brain, one day GTT will rise from the ashes like a iron oxide clad phoenix, honest....

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Janosh said:
Oh yea, it’s all coming back to me now! You sent me that pic many years ago frown

This thread is tempting me to look at old hatches again.. keep the updates coming!
lol! yeah more than likely confessed already, was a good few years ago and at time they were worthless as mad as it sounds. made about 4k in bits off it though. Still have the original dash plaque, its stuck to my computer monitor at work to remind me of how silly it was to kill it....sigh

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Okay, next on the list, the 1993 Capsicum Red 1.8 16v.

This car was always one of the ones back in the old forum days that I coveted and probably got me into the mk1 scene fully. It was originally 449 sports blue and at one point when my lust for it was highest it sat low as you like on satin black R19 turbine wheels. It looked absolutely fantastic, there was a particular picture of it on the beach with the previous owner that just ticked all the boxes... After that my mk1 addiction kicked in fully and I've been a slave ever since.

Many years later, and a couple more owners later too, it popped up on eBay of all places, caged up with a mk2 clio F4R engine and gearbox conversion and now Red inside and out. I chucked a couple of cheeky bids on it, not too much as the car had loads of parts missing and was a nonrunner. Danny, the owner at the time got part way through a supercharger install and complete rewire and gave up. So 1200 quid later, I won it and as of October 2013 I was finally in possession of JWC, the car that kicked it all of all those years before.

At the time I was moving from ¼ mile fun into trackdays and the grey mk1 (to be covered later in this saga) was causing me no end of grief and I had to accept it just wasn’t cut out for track work, just too highly strung and badly thought out and conceived for the new job I had chucked it into. As such I shifted the track oriented parts from the grey car (GTT as I will refer to it from now on) to the red one (JWC) and set about creating my vision for a mk1 phase 1 (technically it’s a 1.5, but I’ve stuck the earlier visual cue’s onto it) track car. I wanted to fit lots of shiny bits to make it chuckable, thrashable and capable on track but also from a first glance have all the right visual cue’s to look like a stock car….ish.

So in 7 years of use and evolution I think I am nearly there with her now and more than happy with the car, despite some current niggles and issues that need ironing out.

Quick spec of what I can remember on the car, mostly mk2 phase 1 172 components make up the running gear, which makes sourcing upgrades and replacement bits for the engine and drivetrain much much easier. As such its basically a mk2 car stuck into the much better looking dress of a mk1 chassis smile

- Renault Sport Clio 172 (F4R) engine conversion (2.0 16v)
- Mocal Oil Cooler
- Renault Sport Clio 172 Front suspension conversion
- Spherical bearing Front Wishbones
- Powerflex black series Polybushed ARB links
- Renault Clio Williams KW Variant1 coil over suspension all round with 500lb custom front springs
- Renault Clio Williams AST Solid Top mounts
- ACS Motorsport bump steer and roll correction kit
- Stud and nut conversion with front and rear spacers
- Manual Steering Conversion (basically pulled power stuff off original rack and done, lol)
- Wilwood midilite 4 pot brake kit from Jamsport with Ferodo ds 11.1 pads
- Custom Stainless Exhaust system with Renaultsport Clio 182 manifold
- Vibratechnics solid engine mounts
- Toyo R888 tyres for road, Michelin Slicks for track
- Pure motorsport carbon shifter
- Quaife Limited Slip differential in Renaultsport Clio 172 Cup gearbox
- Renaultsport Clio 172 Whiteline Rear Anti Roll bar (modified to fit mk1)
- Perspex window kit comprising 5 piece (fronts, rears and rear a screen) with slider kit
- Fibreglass bonnet with Aerocatch bonnet pins (lockable)
- Fully stripped interior
- Renault Sport Clio 172 Full wiring looms and dash/clocks. Modded to fit Mk1 external light clusters
- Full 6 point weld in roll cage with tie plates and gusseting
- Oreca Bucket seats, fixed side mount to weld in supports
- Sabelt Harness’ - Helmet net, spare wheel strap (and spare wheel)
- Sabelt Renaultsport Steering wheel and boss
- RS2 Carbon inlet manifold
- Renaultsport Clio 197 cams with 8 degree inlet advance
- Renaultsport Clio 197 injectors
- Walbro fuel pump with braided fuel lines
- Remap at Efi Parts - 212bhp/160lbft at Flywheel

Currently the car is in bits on the drive, I have some rear stub axles from a Clio 172 that I am modifying the rear beam to fit, this will then allow me to geo the rear with shims for camber and toe for some more adjustability. It then needs to go up to my mates garage for an exhaust revision as current one is sitting all wrong and causing issues.

Then its MOT, full geo to new specs for the stiffer front springs and head to Cadwell for some fun smile

Pics!





























Coops-Clio-F4R

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Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Was that little Danny, Coops? That's the only Danny I remember, and he did have a farily low valver in blue.

Do you know what happened to the banana? Last I saw Gaz bought it and he was on about moving to Aus and taking it with him.
Danny Ace matey from out Grantham way owned it before me so different guy I guess.

Yeah Cadwell just rules basically, fantastic track. Although I will say Druids at Oulton is my favourite corner complex on UK tracks I've driven, but Cadwell is a better overall lap

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Swervin_Mervin said:
Do you know what happened to the banana? Last I saw Gaz bought it and he was on about moving to Aus and taking it with him.
Gaz owned it for many years after Martin, Martin moved onto the white itb one iirc that Craig and Mehndi used to own.

He never moved to Aus though, still active in UK mk1 scene now. Not sure what happened to the nana, I think it's still alive somewhere though, know another of the less active mk1 guys had it up until fairly recently

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Spot on once the angel works issues were rectified iirc, blew top end after dropping a cam iirc back in the day!

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Thursday 2nd July 2020
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DuncMac said:
All looking good coops!

Nice to see my clio makes appearance lol


Dunc
Oh hai Dunco, yeah thought I'd pop up your shed too!



Coops-Clio-F4R

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Thursday 2nd July 2020
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few more random pics of the mk1

Resplendent on turbines



Front end Friday ready



And not so ready



Natural habitat





Lurking near to the track





But also happy on a Sunday spin and a pint



Such scene angles, much win picture



With mini me



Pedal it



And that fabled beach pic that started it all


Coops-Clio-F4R

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Thursday 2nd July 2020
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Bathroom_Security said:
I wonder if I ever met you at Cadwell in MII GTT on one of the cliosport forum or renaultsport track days

Was on CS many years ago and I remember The grey 16v.

Love that PH1. interior aside, they seem to have aged really well
I don't think I ever did Cadwell in GTT so wouldn't of met you there in that car!

Yeah I love the phase 1, and in all honesty the interior suits the age of the car really, got a bit of early noughties charm to it

Coops-Clio-F4R

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Friday 10th July 2020
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Right, time for the next installment in this thrillingly predictable series.....another Clio obviously! perhaps I need some sort of vaccine to prevent any more.

This is the daily, a 2004 model Renaultsport Clio 182. The car was purchased by myself from a fellow cliosport.net forum member in September 2012 for the princely sum of 2400 quid and its been my daily car ever since.

It's a 4 owner vehicle, I am the 4th, two forum members before that and a randomer for the first year of its life from new. Between us we've racked up 215k miles on the old heap, 113k of which has been me. And the cars been nothing but a pleasure to own over the years. It's let me down but twice, once with a faulty injector but was able to limp home and fix and a second time with a blown tyre sidewall....so can hardly blame the car really.

Since owning it I've made a lot of changes, reversed a lot of them, changed back and basically just had fun with bolt on mods throughout the ownership, however I like to think I've now settled on a look and feel for the car that I am happy with for a daily motor. No to everyone's taste as I do have a lot of aftermarket carbon on the car, all genuine weave, but some feel this is a tacky look....for me though I love it and its my car!

The car has been used on track occasionally and I have Blyton Park booked end of July for my birthday which will be it's 4th venture onto track with me.

The engine and gearbox on the car are all original, both never been opened, and still returned a relatively healthy 170.1bhp a few years back on the well know heart breaker rollers of Surrey Rolling Road. Off the top of my head too the only none functioning feature of the car is the auto wipers which broke years ago and I have no idea why. Everything else works perfectly, Auto lights, Climate, cruise, traction, abs etc etc.

Current spec as of today with a mileage of 215,543 miles:

- Racing Blue 182 with both cup packs from factory (look and handling packs)
- H&R Springs ( I have Bilstein B14 coilovers to go on but they're lockdown stranded in Scotland at a friends currently)
- OZ Superleggera 152 wheels in BMW Sparkling Graphite Grey with custom genuine carbon skinned centre caps
- Replica Trophy Spolier
- RS200 rear badge
- Janspeed resonated cat back stainless exhaust system
- Carbon exterior details
- Carbon interior trim pieces
- Andrew Mayers (snappy) refurbished steering wheel
- Some suede trimmed interior components
- Pure Motorsport Carbon gear shifter
- Renault Clio 182 Trophy Recaro Trendline seats
- Alpine stereo, 6x9 stealth shelf and under seat sub
- Engine bay dressing

that's about it, few pics as she sits now:






















Coops-Clio-F4R

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Monday 13th July 2020
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Final addition to the thread, the car that I've owned the longest and got the most emotional investment in, 1994 1.8 16v in Xerus Grey.

Owned the car since Mid 2007 and its gone through a few iterations, trials and tribulations over the years under my ownership and a depressingly small amount of mileage really. Think I bought it on 86k and its on around 108k now, but been so long since I really looked at the mileage I can't remember.....update just checked DVLA, MOT expired June 2014 and was on 107k on the previous so mileage will be about that.

I initially used the car as a road and 1/4 mile, couple of mag features and just looked pretty so kept on that running theme. Stripped, caged and then tracked eventually which ruined it and left it languishing on my drive for the last 6 years.....and tinworm crept in like a silent killer in the night.

As such it's now in a million pieces and long long away from its 12.3@117mpg Santa Pod passes in its heyday.

Plan is to resurrect it as a road based car, full interior refitted and initially just a stock engine. Then rebuild a new low comp, high boost heart for her over the next 6 years, lol!

anyway I won't waffle on about it unless there some interest in spec and history from the past. For now I'll just show some pics of current state, and heyday.

cheers

Ben

As she sits currently, no interior, no running gear as such and rotting.....







Engine bay stripped out ready for a repair and paint



Interior, was stripped and painted years ago, but thankfully wiring and dash all left in tact, so should be okay to recommission as road spec





Rot on the chassis underneath, front jacking points, some chassis rail, outer and more than likely inner sills all gone





and all the various scrap collected over the years that's all sat in the shell currently like the shed it is





and finally couple of shots of her back in her prime, one day....one day!






Coops-Clio-F4R

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Tuesday 14th July 2020
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Alex_225 said:
Lovely selection of Clios you have their OP.

The MK1 Clio has a particular soft spot for me as I had one as my first car! In fact my list of cars went -

1993 Clio Oasis - 1.2, four speed, such a beast! haha
2001 Clio Grande - 1.2
2003 Clio 172

Then as second or daily cars I had a 1992 Clio RT and another 2003 Clio 172 a few years back. Never had a sporty MK1 though and think the Williams and the 16V models still look good. 90s styling at it's best.

The racing blue 182 looks great too, best colour for them!
thanks for the kind words, I have always been afflicted with the Clio bug and my biggest regret is letting all of the Williams' I have owned slip the net. Standard form they were the best Clio's I've ever driven, out the box nothing felt like a Willy...……...ahem