Fury "Egoboost 2.0" - CBR1000RR to Ecoboost

Fury "Egoboost 2.0" - CBR1000RR to Ecoboost

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MagicalTrevor

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Thursday 27th August 2020
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How's about a good old engine replacement build thread?



I bought this Fury as an ex-750MC race car. It was fitted with a decent amount of toys and gadgets but with an older 2005 CBR1000RR engine with 165bhp. That's decent for an engine of its age but I compete in Sprinting and my class has the 375bhp SBD Westfield. I needed more!

I had an electric issue and the ECU no longer worked so rather than the easy option of changing the ECU, I decided to change the entire engine instead.

Why "Egoboost 2.0"? I used to own Ash Sutton's old Formula Ford Ecoboost, with a friend, which we dubbed "Egoboost". It was a brilliant car and I missed the buzz I got from it, this was my opportunity to try and recreate some of that.



Will it fit in the Fury chassis? Well that's a very good question, we knew the engine was around the same size as the Duratec and they fit in the chassis of a Stylus. The Fury is a very similar chassis so it must fit, right?

MagicalTrevor

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I created some funds by selling some of the old bits. Engine came out and then I started to clear some space in the engine bay.

I bought a 2015 1.6 Ecoboost engine with ~10k miles on it and then went about getting all the extra bits.

  • SCS Delta GDI4 Ecu with a 300bhp map
  • SCS Delta modified wiring loom
  • Titan dry sump
  • Titan bellhousing for a Type 9 gearbox
  • Turbo Technics S242 hybrid turbo good for 315bhp
  • SBD thermostat housing
  • SBD vacuum pump blanking plate
  • SBD rear heater solenoid blank
I'm going to have trouble with:
  • Pedal box as the turbo is extremely close to all the MCs
  • Finding a suitable gearbox for the torque.

MagicalTrevor

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Collected the engine and set about lowering the engine into place as it was to see what needed to be immediately removed. I'd already removed the ARB and a front chassis brace which will need to be refabricated







You can see that it looked tight but the aircon compressor was still attached, so that came right off! Then then massive alternator was in the way so that came off as well. I had my eye on a lighter one anyway but hopefully it doesn't need relocating.

MagicalTrevor

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Well it fits!

Left hand side


Front


Right hand side


Rear

MagicalTrevor

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Greg_D said:
that will be fun. 300 hp out of a 1.6.....
what are the regs for the class and motors, it always used to be 1.4 x capacity for turbos, so for a 1.6 would be 2.24 litres.
what does the sbd car run?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it will be a lot of fun!

I'm in a Modified Specialist Production class, so that's not-road legal, slicks and it's an unlimited class so I could run any engine. The SBD Westfield also runs the 1.6 Ecoboost but with a much, much higher budget because it's their development car.

You're right, my equivalence is 2.24 litres but it doesn't make whether you have 1000cc or 6200cc in this class.

MagicalTrevor

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The other concern was how high it might sit because it's quite a tall engine.



This is with the standard sump but I'm going to be fitting the Titan dry sump so this won't be a problem.



And then height looks ok to me. The Fury has different bonnets available and mine is the Le Mans bonnet with a bulge for bike engines. If it needs modifying then that's fine.

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Greg_D said:
does anyone go completely batst in your class? ie: 4wd dax with 900 hp twin turbo LS etc... or is it all halfway sensible people just having fun?
SBD have gone pretty batst! I wouldn't say it was "sensible people just having fun", it's pretty serious and competitive but we are all friendly. I suppose nobody really wants to upset the balance and a nutter car like you've mentioned about would be quite costly and undriveable but feel free to enter with that! wink

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joshleb said:
That looks like it would be great fun!

Will you be doing any hillclimbs in that?
I'm scared of hillclimbs! laugh I don't like the proximity to trees, so it's just circuits for me.

Edited by MagicalTrevor on Friday 28th August 08:05

MagicalTrevor

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Mark Benson said:
I suspect you'll remain unimpressed - around 160bhp from a 3.5 with a stonking great Edelbrock header. This was 15 years ago when 160bhp was...well, it was still unimpressive actually....
But it'll sound better thumbup

MagicalTrevor

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Next step is to fit the dry sump as the height of that from the floor is critical to fitment of the engine mounts.

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For reference, the turbo I'm using was previously fitted to a Mygale Formula Ford with a similar spec engine. This was the dyno chart. I'm expecting similar as I would like the nice flat torque curve.


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Konrod said:
Is that a Sylva Stylus in the background? Takes me back.......
It certainly is. Just going through a Duratec upgrade.

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Krikkit said:
What an awesome project, can't wait to see how it turns out.

Any timescales for finishing up, presumably next season?
Aiming to start the season in March 2021 with it finished. Probably spend half the year with further development.

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Monday 31st August 2020
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Further progress today:

Firstly some essential modifications that needed doing but I’ve made them look prettier.

The vacuum pump on the rear of the engine isn’t needed so it gets removed and then blanked off. SBD make this component although Gemzoe Motorsport also make one.
After that the rear solenoid gets removed and blanked off. That’s also an SBD product.



Next was to replace the Ecoboost thermostat housing with a Sigma housing. Not sure why, it probably simplifies the circuit. It’s what is recommended so I’m doing it!





Hmm, that doesn’t look right! I’m not sure what’s going on there, I think it might be due to the engine sitting around for a while. Please comment if you know.



Edited by MagicalTrevor on Monday 31st August 18:25


Edited by MagicalTrevor on Monday 31st August 18:26

MagicalTrevor

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Next was to check out where the engine mounts go.

I bought these on eBay




Useful reference for anybody looking to do similar

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The turbo is really tight against the pedal box and that’s a major headache as the exhaust needs to make an incredibly tight turn.

So I’m going to get extension piece fabricated that lowers it and twists it slightly so the exhaust outlet points more towards the outside of the bodywork





There’s now loads of space as I’ve removed the brake MCs to get better access.


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shirt said:
Once you measure it can you please let me know the height difference with the titan sump? I haven’t ordered mine yet but have the bellhousing and box so would like to start fabricating mounts
Will do, what box are you using?

MagicalTrevor

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TheDrBrian said:
Couple of daft questions.

Does the engine need any modifications to make it run longitudinally rather than transversely?
Not worth keeping the Ford ECU for traction control or any other goodies?
No, just a bellhousing and an in-line gearbox such as a Type 9 derivative.

The new ecu has TC. Ford ECU just isn’t an option and it would have a meltdown because all the emissions and safety systems have been removed

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shirt said:
Same driveline as your ff200, in the back of a radical.
Two mates of mine are running over 350bhp with that gearbox. Great bit of kit.

MagicalTrevor

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Saturday 5th September 2020
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Borrowed an engine stand so I could more easily work on the dry sump fitting



Obvious reason for the engine stand is turning the engine upside down



Not photos mid way through as there’s nothing particularly exciting.



One thing to note is that the Titan pump comes with a mount but it won’t work with the usual mounts that you buy for this type of car as it blocks the mounting holes.

Gemzoe Motorsport sells a suitable mount to replace the Titan mount and also allows you to use an engine mount.



Basically, you need this if you’re using this mount.

It fits like this







Edited by MagicalTrevor on Saturday 5th September 18:05