Peugeot 205 XR

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PrinceRupert

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Saturday 28th November 2020
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So I decided I needed a project car as a lockdown hobby, teach myself to spanner. I was looking for a car that wasn't rusty, cheap to insure (180 quid a year! The 75 is 600 quid...) and for parts, and most importantly not too far away! So I picked up this.



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Externally a little tatty - could do with a bonnet respray, a few scrapes/dents attended too, and a good polish. Interior js immaculate ... though very basic. Keep fit windows, no central locking, no tachometer! Manual choke! I don't even know how a manual choke works...

Its on 137k miles, though the seller thinks the engine/box was changed at some point as there is some paperwork for a lower mileage car mixed in. It went off the road in 2010, was tinkered with a bit by previous owner in 2013 then put off road again, then tinkered with to get through an mot in 2020. I have ordered aux belt cam belt water pump oil filter air filter spark plugs front discs and pads 5l oil...for the grand total of £108. Damn parts are cheap. I'm a very amateur mechanic with little skills so fitting the parts will be a test but part of the fun. Intend to change coolant and brake fluid as well.

We think it is the 75hp 1.4l engine. Makes quite the noise for a 4 cyl and can spin the tyres and move quite quickly probably due to weighing only 790kg

More to follow...

PrinceRupert

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Saturday 28th November 2020
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Thanks Chief. Everyone seems to love a 205. Not driven it yet...got a quick spin by the seller but given it has been sitting 10 years think I should get the belts changed first.

PrinceRupert

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Sunday 29th November 2020
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Decided to give it a wash



Turns out i have 3 steelies and 1 alloy biglaugh didnt noticed when they were dirty....

Suggestions for replacement wheels welcome...

PrinceRupert

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Sunday 29th November 2020
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Also learned the sunroof leaks!

PrinceRupert

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Ordered a couple of replacement drive shafts ... the cv boots need replaced and given the driveshafts are so cheap (75 quid delivered for two!) figured i might as well just replace them.

Can't decide what wheels to get, seems new wheels are massively expensive but used wheels tend to be pretty tatty and not very cheap...

PrinceRupert

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Monday 30th November 2020
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I realised that the spare wheel appears to be a matching steel so maybe the rat rod look with old steelies is fine for now, if that wheel is in okay nick.

Suggestions for things worth changing are welcome

How bad an idea are sub £200 JOM Blueline coilovers ...

PrinceRupert

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Monday 30th November 2020
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So, on Saturday I got a second set of keys cut at Timpsons as I only had one set. It appears that the replacement key has broken the boot lock, which will no longer turn. I've taken it out the car and it is sitting on my dining room table, but still won't turn, using either set of keys. The new key works on the ignition and the doors. How very annoying. Anyone know of a way of fixing a lock...?

The other odd thing is I seem to have a central locking mechanism in my boot - one of these - https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_t... - with a cable connected to the lock. Yet it doesn't have central locking. Perhaps it does but someone has lost the keys...?

Rear footwell carpets were damp this evening. Which is odd, as it is parked in my carport. Must still be damp from washing the car. It was definitely leaking through the sunroof, but the footwells are damp on the opposite side. So maybe it is leaking from somewhere else as well. Boot seems dry, so don't think it is coming in that way.

PrinceRupert

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Soaking in WD40. No sign of it working though. Can get a replacement lock for a mere 12 quid but then I'd have different keys for doors/ignition, boot and fuel cap:-/ plus I just spent 22 quid on spare keys!

PrinceRupert

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Hmm I don't think there is meant to be a hole there!

Base of rear seats is very damp/mouldy looking and sign of rusting on metal components. Must be a leak. Boot seems dry but perhaps the seller dried it before I got there!

So I may have two leaks...

PrinceRupert

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ambuletz said:
great looking car. I do wonder if renting a heat gun might help to darken up the black plastics around and to the rear? getting it to look as new. you see this kind of thing all the time with people that own black bumper cars
Good shout, I have read that before. I did spray it with a bit of back to black but it didn't do very much. Tbh the paintwork ain't great in places so I'm not going to be too focused on cosmetics.

PrinceRupert

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A few snaps of the worst cosmetic flaws. Annoyed I didn't notice the damage above the door when viewing would have knocked some cash off my offer. I thought the boot window seal would be an easy fix but apparently it is bonded into the glass so would need to replace the glass.

PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 1st December 2020
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Let's see how effective this is at drying out the car. Fear it may be too cold for it to work well.

This is exciting however!


PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 1st December 2020
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The oil breather hose is damaged, so this is on my list to replace.




Edited by PrinceRupert on Tuesday 1st December 17:38

PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 1st December 2020
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Quickly changed over the air filter this evening (though it took a bit longer than it should have trying to get the bloody thing to click into place). Old one pictured hasn't seen many miles!

PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 1st December 2020
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xstian said:
That's a breather hose, I can't see if it's broken on my phone, but if it is split it can drip oil. Worth taking it off and giving it a crean out.

Have you been on the 205gtidrivers.com forum? Loads of info on there and not just for GTi's.
Thanks, you can't quite see but a chunk had broken off where it connects at the top. There is an advised oil leak on the MOT, it would be too easy if it is from there ...

I've been on the forum, but not signed up, possibly should. Have joined the FB group which is helpful. Got some 19mm hose and clips on order to renew that hose and any others that look degraded.

PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 1st December 2020
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StuntmanMike said:
Challo said:
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Challo said:
Cracking project OP. I had a 205 Rallye when I was younger and loved it.

Such fun cars to drive.
Chris Harris said in an interview that the 205 was by far his favourite hatchback.

Whilst I’ve never seen him as a presenter ( don’t watch Top Gear ) I have always put weight in his opinions.
Yep he loves them. If you watch this interview he did recently with Jonny Smith he goes into a lot of detail about them https://youtu.be/N7lD0PQBvg4

He has the original 205 Rallye which is only left hand drive and very quick. The UK got a watered down version with only 75bhp i think, but similar looks and stripped out interior.
yes that really is an excellent interview.
Agreed!

He has five 205s redface

PrinceRupert

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Tuesday 1st December 2020
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Agreed to buy these this weekend:



7 of them for 100 quid 4 with decent tyres not bad

PrinceRupert

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Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Quality (hmm) repair to the degraded rear window seal this morning with a bit of Sikaflex.

Also chucked some in behind the rear door cards where there looked like there might have been a bit of a gap between body and wheel arch. No harm if it wasn't leaking already...

PrinceRupert

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Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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It's all about the small improvements biggrin

PrinceRupert

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Wednesday 2nd December 2020
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Quick query on timing belt change.

Haynes says the following:

"Note: Peugeot specify the use of a special electronic tool (SEEM C.TRONIC type 105 belt tensioning measuring tool) to correctly set the timing belt tension. If access to this equipment cannot be obtained, an approximate setting can be achieved using the method described below. If the method described is used, the tension must be checked using the special electronic tool at the earliest possible opportunity. Do not drive the vehicle over large distances, or use high engine speeds, until the belt tension is known to be correct. Refer to a Peugeot dealer for advice."

Can I simply ignore this warning ... ?