2008 RS6 V10... Part 2
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Some of the older members may remember this thread from over 4 years ago -
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Unfortunately most of the pictures have gone now. In summary, I was lucky enough to have the V10 dropped out of my RS6 about two weeks into ownership to replace the 50p oil seal and coolant pipes.
Fantastic start to RS6 ownership
! Ran the car for a while, enjoyed it massively, but I decided to move it on after 10 months and try a few other cars.
Well, 4 years later and in an ever changing world, it looks like most manufacturers are heading down the electric / hybrid route. I don't have anything against it, but PH nailed it on one Instagram post -
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ds. Off to the classifieds I went, just more out of interest than anything 
. Seen a nice Daytona Grey Avant (Same as the last one), lowish miles for the age, and more crucially, had receipts for the Oil seal being replaced. A quick call to the dealer, deposit placed, and picked it up last weekend. On picking the car up, it had a wad of receipts (Good!), it also has Bilstein coilovers, so the sometimes troublesome DRC system has been removed. On top of that, secondary cats have been removed and the standard filters have been replaced for BMC items, so it is good to go for a Stage 2 map at MRC once things settle down again. The one regret I had with my last one was that I didn't get it mapped, not that 570bhp is any slouch, but 7xx/10xx sounds better!
One difference from last time is that this won't be a daily, I know some people will think 'why have an Avant as a second car?', but the cold start of a V10 with half the cats ripped out it is half the reason
Plans? Well, Stage 2 map as above, probably do the 410mm AP Racing upgrade on the front, H&R Anti-Roll bar and just enjoy the thing, hopefully a few euro trips once restrictions are lifted. Tune in to see what happens!
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Unfortunately most of the pictures have gone now. In summary, I was lucky enough to have the V10 dropped out of my RS6 about two weeks into ownership to replace the 50p oil seal and coolant pipes.
Fantastic start to RS6 ownership
! Ran the car for a while, enjoyed it massively, but I decided to move it on after 10 months and try a few other cars. Well, 4 years later and in an ever changing world, it looks like most manufacturers are heading down the electric / hybrid route. I don't have anything against it, but PH nailed it on one Instagram post -
b
ds. Off to the classifieds I went, just more out of interest than anything . Seen a nice Daytona Grey Avant (Same as the last one), lowish miles for the age, and more crucially, had receipts for the Oil seal being replaced. A quick call to the dealer, deposit placed, and picked it up last weekend. On picking the car up, it had a wad of receipts (Good!), it also has Bilstein coilovers, so the sometimes troublesome DRC system has been removed. On top of that, secondary cats have been removed and the standard filters have been replaced for BMC items, so it is good to go for a Stage 2 map at MRC once things settle down again. The one regret I had with my last one was that I didn't get it mapped, not that 570bhp is any slouch, but 7xx/10xx sounds better!One difference from last time is that this won't be a daily, I know some people will think 'why have an Avant as a second car?', but the cold start of a V10 with half the cats ripped out it is half the reason
Plans? Well, Stage 2 map as above, probably do the 410mm AP Racing upgrade on the front, H&R Anti-Roll bar and just enjoy the thing, hopefully a few euro trips once restrictions are lifted. Tune in to see what happens!
Not much to update... fitted some wheel bolt covers to distract your eye away from the bolts. Excuse the rusty wheel weights!
The one time 390mm discs look on the small side
Been out to give it some miles over the last few days, noticed tonight there seems to be a slight rattle from the underside, almost sounds like a loose exhaust clamp or similar. Will get it up in the air when I get back and investigate, and see what the underside is looking like.
Hopefully be able to get in touch with MRC over the next few weeks for the engine and gearbox map. I emailed them a while back but as of yet, no response. Been busy myself so haven’t chased it up - no huge rush. Also thinking about getting the gearbox serviced before it gets mapped - luckily I am not far from a ZF agent, so that’s handy.
The one time 390mm discs look on the small side
Been out to give it some miles over the last few days, noticed tonight there seems to be a slight rattle from the underside, almost sounds like a loose exhaust clamp or similar. Will get it up in the air when I get back and investigate, and see what the underside is looking like.
Hopefully be able to get in touch with MRC over the next few weeks for the engine and gearbox map. I emailed them a while back but as of yet, no response. Been busy myself so haven’t chased it up - no huge rush. Also thinking about getting the gearbox serviced before it gets mapped - luckily I am not far from a ZF agent, so that’s handy.
Following Ian’s thread revival, I thought I better update my own!
Rattle turned out to be the backing plates for the rear brakes loose, one side had been cable tied (!) and the other was totally loose, so both removed and will replace soon. Number plate holder cut and joined to accommodate smaller plate, just finishes off the front.
Was away for a service a few weeks ago, engine oil, gearbox oil and rear diff oil changed and a check over. Needs rear pads soon, so will look into a set of DS2500s for it. Gearbox oil was done as it seems that it is a requirement for MRC mapping that it is serviced, so will need to get it booked soon. Also need to try and remove the rear spring adjusters and free them off, it’s sitting too low at the back.
Not much else to update, apart from just enjoying the thing!
Rattle turned out to be the backing plates for the rear brakes loose, one side had been cable tied (!) and the other was totally loose, so both removed and will replace soon. Number plate holder cut and joined to accommodate smaller plate, just finishes off the front.
Was away for a service a few weeks ago, engine oil, gearbox oil and rear diff oil changed and a check over. Needs rear pads soon, so will look into a set of DS2500s for it. Gearbox oil was done as it seems that it is a requirement for MRC mapping that it is serviced, so will need to get it booked soon. Also need to try and remove the rear spring adjusters and free them off, it’s sitting too low at the back.
Not much else to update, apart from just enjoying the thing!
IanH755 said:
Howdo, regarding the rear DS2500's I found absolutely zero difference in performance between the DS and the OEM pads for "on the road" unless you're driving extremely hard but IIRC the prices are around the same but don't go expecting any noticeable difference after you fit them.
I've had the DS2500 rear pads first with OEM discs and then later got the AP racing rear 356mm discs and the discs made a far more noticeable difference in "stability" under hard braking.
Thanks for that Ian.I've had the DS2500 rear pads first with OEM discs and then later got the AP racing rear 356mm discs and the discs made a far more noticeable difference in "stability" under hard braking.
Rear discs are still good, so might see what is available and go from there. I was planning to put the 410mm AP upgrade on the front at some point if I can sell the front discs/pads/calipers setup which is still in pretty decent condition. I won’t do much track use for it (there’s another car for that), but you know what it is like
Wise words, I’ll need to price up both options and see what the best route to go with is.
I take it MRC are still considered the best for mapping? I tried emailing them a few weeks back but no response as of yet, once I am home I will try and give them a ring. They have a place slightly closer to home here in Scotland, so not sure if it can be done up here or just as well taking it down to them.
I take it MRC are still considered the best for mapping? I tried emailing them a few weeks back but no response as of yet, once I am home I will try and give them a ring. They have a place slightly closer to home here in Scotland, so not sure if it can be done up here or just as well taking it down to them.
Long time no see, time for a small update.
Rear pads fitted, went for OE Audi as I managed to get a set on eBay for £67, so can’t complain. Took the time to strip and clean the fronts aswell, clean all the discs up, rubbed down the bells and gave them a quick paint, car is definitely looking sharper now.
Car has also been booked in with MRC up here in Scotland, initially planned for just a stage 2 and leaving the standard downpipes in, but after a bit of a thought, have decided to go with the MRC Downpipes too, as I don’t want the standard cats having a chance to fail and causing any issues. Many horror stories about engines coming out for it but they seem confident that it can be done in situ, so here’s hoping. Took the air filters out for a clean, as it won’t be doing much now until mapping in Mid September.
Hoping to be somewhere in the region of 770-800PS and 1000NM+, car sits just now with BMC filters, secondary decat and a 3.5in custom exhaust on it, so should be there or thereabouts.
Really need to get the back spring adjusters off and freed off so I can raise the rear ride height. Just sits a bit too low and has started to go through the liner a bit. Think the Bilstein springs are just a bit too short and as far as it looks, there’s maybe only 5mm more adjustment so need to see what happens. Does look good though
Rear pads fitted, went for OE Audi as I managed to get a set on eBay for £67, so can’t complain. Took the time to strip and clean the fronts aswell, clean all the discs up, rubbed down the bells and gave them a quick paint, car is definitely looking sharper now.
Car has also been booked in with MRC up here in Scotland, initially planned for just a stage 2 and leaving the standard downpipes in, but after a bit of a thought, have decided to go with the MRC Downpipes too, as I don’t want the standard cats having a chance to fail and causing any issues. Many horror stories about engines coming out for it but they seem confident that it can be done in situ, so here’s hoping. Took the air filters out for a clean, as it won’t be doing much now until mapping in Mid September.
Hoping to be somewhere in the region of 770-800PS and 1000NM+, car sits just now with BMC filters, secondary decat and a 3.5in custom exhaust on it, so should be there or thereabouts.
Really need to get the back spring adjusters off and freed off so I can raise the rear ride height. Just sits a bit too low and has started to go through the liner a bit. Think the Bilstein springs are just a bit too short and as far as it looks, there’s maybe only 5mm more adjustment so need to see what happens. Does look good though
Edited by adafr on Friday 27th August 21:43
IanH755 said:
Yeap downpipes can be done in-situ but just be aware that there is still a small risk that 1 exhaust stud on the LH turbo can shear (outboard upper one IIRC), which has happened a few times to folks on RS246, and this would then require the engine to come out to be repaired. It's fairly rare but just be aware it has happened.
Good luck anyway, the OE turbos should make that power level you're after, just expect the power/TQ to flatten off at around 5.5K RPM as the OE turbos will be max'ed out by then but it'll still be stupidly quick
I’m hoping we don’t run into any issues, but let’s see what happens. Knowing my luck… Good luck anyway, the OE turbos should make that power level you're after, just expect the power/TQ to flatten off at around 5.5K RPM as the OE turbos will be max'ed out by then but it'll still be stupidly quick
I must note at the top, I should have worded that better. We didn’t even get to the mapping stage, and no failure of anything has been caused by MRC, in fact if it wasn’t for their advice, we would probably be in a much worse situation! So I can only praise them, and holding true to their word and keeping me booked in for mapping in the future. Wouldn’t want anyone thinking that something has happened due to their workmanship!
So on looking at the engine when it was dropped for the pipes, they noticed a slight oil leak from the back of the engine, and unfortunately it was drawing down onto the L/H downpipe, so we stopped all work as there was no point in creating any risk of anything catching fire. And an attempt was made to try to get a bolt off the turbo, and it sheared straight away so it was bound to happen anyway.
So, that’s where we are now. Decided to take the engine out myself, as I do have a bit of time off over the next few months, and can get to look at it in depth. The sad thing is that this car was purchased on history, including a huge bill for seals. To be fair it isn’t leaking in the usual places, more towards the back of the rocker, potentially the vac pump at the back too. But regardless, everything will be getting a refresh as it is approaching 100k.
Don’t worry, the axle stands aren’t holding anything, just a fail safe. Made a lovely pallet engine stand, hopefully get it lifted on tonight.
So on looking at the engine when it was dropped for the pipes, they noticed a slight oil leak from the back of the engine, and unfortunately it was drawing down onto the L/H downpipe, so we stopped all work as there was no point in creating any risk of anything catching fire. And an attempt was made to try to get a bolt off the turbo, and it sheared straight away so it was bound to happen anyway.
So, that’s where we are now. Decided to take the engine out myself, as I do have a bit of time off over the next few months, and can get to look at it in depth. The sad thing is that this car was purchased on history, including a huge bill for seals. To be fair it isn’t leaking in the usual places, more towards the back of the rocker, potentially the vac pump at the back too. But regardless, everything will be getting a refresh as it is approaching 100k.
IanH755 said:
Unlucky there dude, however to find a silver lining it's a perfect time for the TTE1000 turbos, oil seal and coolant pipes 
Can you tell us what happened during the mapping yet?
TTE1000s would be lovely, but couldn’t justify it at the moment as to get anything out of it, I would have to do the box too. That wasn’t the plan, but let’s see what the next few months bring! I must be one of very few people who has had two RS6’s and both have needed an engine out job? Can you tell us what happened during the mapping yet?
Don’t worry, the axle stands aren’t holding anything, just a fail safe. Made a lovely pallet engine stand, hopefully get it lifted on tonight.
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