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Two birds with one stone... Mrs Brett needed a birthday present and I needed something other than an LT32 that could tow 3.5tons...
Horror stories of the LR brand have always put me off owning one; Mrs Brett was a serial Range Rover owner before I converted her to the Way Of The Lexus. Whichever way you cut it though, no Lexus is capable of towing anything chunky, and none of the recent Toyota Landcruisers can do above 3tons either. (Well not in UK, non-V8 form)
This left us looking at Defenders, (came very close to getting a nearly new 3.0 110 but then the price jumped beyond what I was willing to pay) Discoveries, (probably fine but the arse is ugly and the available stock had far too many TV screens for a life that involves transporting heavy things and/or dogs) and finally...Range Rovers.
I have to admit that in flesh it seems very solidly built, it's not showing it's age at all - no squeeks or rattles, but with c30k on the clock it really shouldn't anyway.
It's a fairly low spec Vogue with the TDV6 engine, but exactly what I need for periodic show ground duties, and exactly what the Mrs wanted - so in theory everyone is a winner.
What could go wrong?
Horror stories of the LR brand have always put me off owning one; Mrs Brett was a serial Range Rover owner before I converted her to the Way Of The Lexus. Whichever way you cut it though, no Lexus is capable of towing anything chunky, and none of the recent Toyota Landcruisers can do above 3tons either. (Well not in UK, non-V8 form)
This left us looking at Defenders, (came very close to getting a nearly new 3.0 110 but then the price jumped beyond what I was willing to pay) Discoveries, (probably fine but the arse is ugly and the available stock had far too many TV screens for a life that involves transporting heavy things and/or dogs) and finally...Range Rovers.
I have to admit that in flesh it seems very solidly built, it's not showing it's age at all - no squeeks or rattles, but with c30k on the clock it really shouldn't anyway.
It's a fairly low spec Vogue with the TDV6 engine, but exactly what I need for periodic show ground duties, and exactly what the Mrs wanted - so in theory everyone is a winner.
What could go wrong?
VS02 said:
Lovely, I have been following your X5 and RX450hL threads. Do you still intend on keeping the 450h then? Interested to know what you think of them in a comparison too.
The RX-L went back a week or so ago, Lexus were offering a good price on the return so I ended up slighty ahead.Current thoughts are that the Lexus felt more car like, the Range Rover feels like a bus!
In terms of comfort, the Range Rover edges the Lexus.
I do miss the '450, but they just don't tow enough and the Rx-L isn't type approved to tow at all!
I'll update my Rx thread a bit later with my thoughts
Easternlight said:
Deranged Rover said:
BrettMRC said:
What could go wrong?
The turbos first, I expect.
idealstandard said:
BrettMRC said:
Thanks for that - noted.
The primary driver will be to get a newer one, so post 2017 - if it can be a 4.4 then great. (I'm concerned how well the 3.0 will cope with the full load towing on a longish run.. I don't want to hasten any issues...or kill what is 99.9% Mrs Brett's car!)
Having had L322 in 4.4 TDV8 and 5.0 S/C and now in a LR4 with the 3.0 SDV6, the 4.4 is much better for towing.The primary driver will be to get a newer one, so post 2017 - if it can be a 4.4 then great. (I'm concerned how well the 3.0 will cope with the full load towing on a longish run.. I don't want to hasten any issues...or kill what is 99.9% Mrs Brett's car!)
I tow a mix of 3 tonne double axle equitrek either 1 or 2 up, or a 3.5 tonne tri axle brian james with race car so pretty decent. The LR4 is fabulous really for what it is though you need to thrash it on motorway uphills to hold speed, but that 4.4 V8 Diesel with 8 speed box was a touch. the worst out of the three was the 5.0 petrol with the 6 speed box on the L322, did make a lovely noise though.
jfdi said:
BrettMRC said:
Update:
Currently being suspiciously reliable.
Prodding fate with a giant poker!Currently being suspiciously reliable.
Update:
Sent it back to the dealer as there was a screech/noise under braking.
Guess what? It's magically eaten the front and rear discs/pads in 2000miles of driving.
I've just sent the dealer a ****y email asking how discs so obviously f'd were not an advisory, nor identified in the service the day before we picked it up.
Suddenly I remember why I love Lexus as much as I hate Landrover.
Sent it back to the dealer as there was a screech/noise under braking.
Guess what? It's magically eaten the front and rear discs/pads in 2000miles of driving.
I've just sent the dealer a ****y email asking how discs so obviously f'd were not an advisory, nor identified in the service the day before we picked it up.
Suddenly I remember why I love Lexus as much as I hate Landrover.
RazerSauber said:
BrettMRC said:
Update:
Sent it back to the dealer as there was a screech/noise under braking.
Guess what? It's magically eaten the front and rear discs/pads in 2000miles of driving.
I've just sent the dealer a ****y email asking how discs so obviously f'd were not an advisory, nor identified in the service the day before we picked it up.
Suddenly I remember why I love Lexus as much as I hate Landrover.
I had a garage once pass my MOT with brake pads that 3 months and under 2,000 miles later were back plate to disk. That's in a much lighter car than a Range Rover, too. Swear they take a quick glance and assume it's fine. I suppose when you need to get through the work, short cuts have to be taken somewhere and why not one of, if not the, most important part of a car?Sent it back to the dealer as there was a screech/noise under braking.
Guess what? It's magically eaten the front and rear discs/pads in 2000miles of driving.
I've just sent the dealer a ****y email asking how discs so obviously f'd were not an advisory, nor identified in the service the day before we picked it up.
Suddenly I remember why I love Lexus as much as I hate Landrover.
Sorted out now, significant discount + contribution from the sales side.
I think I will drop it in for an MOT at my usual place soon though, just out of interest..
Since the new brakes were fitted it's consistently squealed under light braking once warm.
Today I dropped it in at Landrover for their 3rd attempt at curing it.
So far they have tried grease, chamfering the pads, and suggesting it's not being braked hard often enough.
Looks at thread title, remembers why I swore I wouldn't have one...
Today I dropped it in at Landrover for their 3rd attempt at curing it.
So far they have tried grease, chamfering the pads, and suggesting it's not being braked hard often enough.
Looks at thread title, remembers why I swore I wouldn't have one...
Edited by BrettMRC on Monday 8th August 15:27
Still squeals.
I'd love to know how much they've taken off the pads now... had to hit the brakes hard for an e-stop the other day, hard application from over 50mph and not a twitch from the ABS, nothing... didn't stop like I would expect given the size of the anchors.
Can't say for certain the lack of braking effect is related, but it's got me wondering.
Have kicked off at LR-FS but they have told me to FRO and talk to the ombudsman.
Only financed it as I thought I might get a measure of support/back up... turns out I was wrong.
//end rant//
I'd love to know how much they've taken off the pads now... had to hit the brakes hard for an e-stop the other day, hard application from over 50mph and not a twitch from the ABS, nothing... didn't stop like I would expect given the size of the anchors.
Can't say for certain the lack of braking effect is related, but it's got me wondering.
Have kicked off at LR-FS but they have told me to FRO and talk to the ombudsman.
Only financed it as I thought I might get a measure of support/back up... turns out I was wrong.
//end rant//
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