Buy a £10k 996 3.4 Carrera NOW!
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I have a prediction for 2015. The 996 3.4 Carrera is going to rise 30% plus in value. There are 3 main reasons.
1 - People are realising that it has some historical value and was the first of the water cooled 911's.
2 - There is an increasing number of cars with properly future proofed rebuilt engines.
3 - Air cooled cars are reaching a point where only really serious buyers will be willing to fork out the high prices they fetch.
So, buy a £10k one now and put it away! And make sure its riding on 17's and is sporting proper ambers!
1 - People are realising that it has some historical value and was the first of the water cooled 911's.
2 - There is an increasing number of cars with properly future proofed rebuilt engines.
3 - Air cooled cars are reaching a point where only really serious buyers will be willing to fork out the high prices they fetch.
So, buy a £10k one now and put it away! And make sure its riding on 17's and is sporting proper ambers!
Sine Metu said:
Whatever the reality of IMS might be and we'll never know, it seems that the original 3.4 engine was by far the more reliable as well. The US case returned a relatively modest 1% fail rate vs. 8% for the later amended units. If true (and I'm not saying it is - but it's surely indicative), 99% success with a brand new 300bhp engine is not a catastrophe by any means. I'd stillmgomwith clear lights though and keep the Amber's in the attic - just in case.
I would agree with most of your logic except that bore ovaility and eventual cracking is arguably the bigger concern as it is pretty much guaranteed.However, buy a car with a sorted engine and its all irrelevant.
anonymous said:
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I guess thats the biggest challenge. These cars have been cheap for a while and its likely that most owners have been reluctant to spend significant money on proper upkeep.Maybe its a case of getting a solid one that has rough edges and investing a little in it?
Lightningman said:
I'd love a £10k 996 C2 but I'm yet to see one, at that price, that isn't:
An unloved colour (exterior or interior, or both!)
Starship mileage
and/or poor service history.
As much as they are unloved, I'd suggest £15k is where the good C2s are.
You see, they have increased by 50% already!An unloved colour (exterior or interior, or both!)
Starship mileage
and/or poor service history.
As much as they are unloved, I'd suggest £15k is where the good C2s are.
Edited by Lightningman on Wednesday 3rd December 14:58
hman said:
So you say, and by that logic there's some people making good livings rebuilding engines every week at £8000 a go for absolutely no reason.
That and IMS failure are why the values are so depressed, buy a 996 turbo different engines and therefore no such problems and guess what, they are a s
tload more expensive.
I really wanted a 996 but am not prepared to have £8000 repair bill looming in the shadows.
Mate, they really dont bore score!That and IMS failure are why the values are so depressed, buy a 996 turbo different engines and therefore no such problems and guess what, they are a s
tload more expensive.I really wanted a 996 but am not prepared to have £8000 repair bill looming in the shadows.
The liners go oval and crack and the IMS explodes but they dont score.
thegreatdogwood said:
Yes and how many do you see with major works completed available at £10k? - the answer is none, the seller then has the car up at £15k. You either buy a cheap "time bomb" for £10k or one that has been sorted for £15k+ at the moment
Its a fair point and probably closer to the reality. I was going for a headline that would be attractive, magazine style!LaurasOtherHalf said:
And yet, when I bought the 993 I was looking for any nice 993/964 and I only bought the 993 as it was the best car available over a year or so. But talking to anyone I knew who bought performance cars back the , the view was pretty clear, I'd be mental to buy a leaky, rusty old 964.
Funny how quick things change eh?
I had the same criteria 7 years ago, even though the 964 was generally not favoured, I liked it. Part of me wanted a 964RS, but I had read too many views that it was almost undrivable on the road so decided on a more conservative 993 Carrera.Funny how quick things change eh?
During my search I viewed a red 964RS that was up for £27995.
Hey ho.
Cmoose, perhaps you needed to buy the car to confirm what you already knew? I honestly think you would love a 3.2 Carrera, yes they are agricultural, heavy and stroppy. But its the kind of car you spend the rest of your life trying to master.
I have kept the 993 as it has that feel but has more usuable power and increased performance everywhere, but not too much.
For me, the 3.2, 964 and 993 are within that magic window, the sweet spot if you like.
I have kept the 993 as it has that feel but has more usuable power and increased performance everywhere, but not too much.
For me, the 3.2, 964 and 993 are within that magic window, the sweet spot if you like.
jakesmith said:
The 911's on the old Palmer Sport days were 996 3.4 C2s before they chopped them for e92 M3s.
They were cars that were driven hard, only on circuits, by experienced and amateur drivers, and apparently they never suffered any engine failures
My theory is to warm the car up & then drive it hard
I believe that is a sound theory.They were cars that were driven hard, only on circuits, by experienced and amateur drivers, and apparently they never suffered any engine failures
My theory is to warm the car up & then drive it hard
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