PEC GT4 Experience - A few Thoughts
Discussion
Had fun on my 5th PEC day this week. My wife purchased Macan, but kindly donated to my good self and changed to a GT4.
As usual, they guys and girls look after you well, very welcoming and a thoroughly high class facility. Lots of great cars to look around in paddock and liked the orange GTS in showroom.
I'm a particular 911 fan, ideally rear wheel drive and manual. Had an a couple of GT3's (997 gen 2 plus 991 PDK) but got no where on latest GT3 and current values are out of my range. But really looking forward to trying GT4 given years of excellent press. Initial thoughts was didn't look great in Black. Seen plenty of white, red cars which I thought looked amazing, but didn't work for me. The standard non bucket seats were excellent, never thought about buckets all session. The gearbox and suspension felt GT product, the engine was excellent once in rev range. It missed low down torque for me. In tighter twisty corners, I couldn't get it to punch out of apex. Trying figure of 8 work and low grip circuit, I had to me much more aggressive than thought to provoke the car.
On the two circuits it was very capable as expected, a very quick car. Something just didn't get me, can't really work it out. I asked instructor if a 911 C2S manual was available as a back to back. Non available but we did try 3 laps in a C4 S manual. Within lap one, I worked it out. Its the involvement, managing the weight, managing the grip and having low down torque to "play" with the chassis. I remembered on my previous PEC day, GT Course, the standard 911 C2s Manual was a particular favourite of the day, just after the 991 GT3 RS which shocked me for capability.
For me I would prefer 911 C2s Manual or GTS over a Cayman GT4, but it did feel like a proper GT car, just lacking in torque and the mid engine layout clearly not for me when so much mechanical grip involved.
Lovely cars though.
As usual, they guys and girls look after you well, very welcoming and a thoroughly high class facility. Lots of great cars to look around in paddock and liked the orange GTS in showroom.
I'm a particular 911 fan, ideally rear wheel drive and manual. Had an a couple of GT3's (997 gen 2 plus 991 PDK) but got no where on latest GT3 and current values are out of my range. But really looking forward to trying GT4 given years of excellent press. Initial thoughts was didn't look great in Black. Seen plenty of white, red cars which I thought looked amazing, but didn't work for me. The standard non bucket seats were excellent, never thought about buckets all session. The gearbox and suspension felt GT product, the engine was excellent once in rev range. It missed low down torque for me. In tighter twisty corners, I couldn't get it to punch out of apex. Trying figure of 8 work and low grip circuit, I had to me much more aggressive than thought to provoke the car.
On the two circuits it was very capable as expected, a very quick car. Something just didn't get me, can't really work it out. I asked instructor if a 911 C2S manual was available as a back to back. Non available but we did try 3 laps in a C4 S manual. Within lap one, I worked it out. Its the involvement, managing the weight, managing the grip and having low down torque to "play" with the chassis. I remembered on my previous PEC day, GT Course, the standard 911 C2s Manual was a particular favourite of the day, just after the 991 GT3 RS which shocked me for capability.
For me I would prefer 911 C2s Manual or GTS over a Cayman GT4, but it did feel like a proper GT car, just lacking in torque and the mid engine layout clearly not for me when so much mechanical grip involved.
Lovely cars though.
I think your probably correct, the tracks are very short, but do represent my day to day driving, with small both A & B roads. I just preferred the 911 as more involvement re the weight and had grunt to exploit it. Another 50-75 BHP on Cayman low down would be great, how would you recommend the aftermarket upgrade you mention?
I currently run a Jaguar F-Type R which is just so much fun on any road anytime apart from a track!. You can exploit the chassis so easily, but I would like a more focussed chassis and happy to have less power if I'm involved in the process of making it all work together!
I currently run a Jaguar F-Type R which is just so much fun on any road anytime apart from a track!. You can exploit the chassis so easily, but I would like a more focussed chassis and happy to have less power if I'm involved in the process of making it all work together!
Oh and totally agree with your 997 GT3 comparison. I never gelled with it on the road, had to drive far too hard to enjoy, it was brilliant on the track though. But it has to me my everyday car as well.
I was reading in supercar section the topic about are todays performance cars too fast for the road. In most cases of course yes, Ive had too many points now. . Would love a 350-450 bhp car that is rear wheel drive, manual and playful chassis that can be used for daily miles and taken to track for a few hours. Was hoping GT4 filed that gap, but didn't quite get that feeling, but Christ 2 hours at PEC maybe not representative.
Thank you
I was reading in supercar section the topic about are todays performance cars too fast for the road. In most cases of course yes, Ive had too many points now. . Would love a 350-450 bhp car that is rear wheel drive, manual and playful chassis that can be used for daily miles and taken to track for a few hours. Was hoping GT4 filed that gap, but didn't quite get that feeling, but Christ 2 hours at PEC maybe not representative.
Thank you
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