Economics of running new Porsche Cayenne e Hybrid?
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Hi, I recently put a deposit down on a new Porsche Cayenne (base model) but am tempted to switch the order to an e Hybrid. I figure the premium over the base model works out at about £8000 (as PASM and sports chrono are already included with e hybrid but also needs a £500 charger to be worthwhile).
The variable I can't work out is what fuel/electricity costs are likely to be if we assume 5000 miles of petrol driving and 5000 miles of battery driving per year as a rule of thumb. I've heard real-world estimates of 35 mpg for the e Hybrid but nobody states if that's a cover-all mpg or if I need to add the cost of the electricity to that.
Does anybody have any insight on how to calculate likely fuel and electricity costs for the Cayenne e Hybrid?
I'm not a company car driver so that doesn't factor in.
Also any other insights on experience of running the Cayenne e Hybrid that might help to justify the higher price over the base model would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
The variable I can't work out is what fuel/electricity costs are likely to be if we assume 5000 miles of petrol driving and 5000 miles of battery driving per year as a rule of thumb. I've heard real-world estimates of 35 mpg for the e Hybrid but nobody states if that's a cover-all mpg or if I need to add the cost of the electricity to that.
Does anybody have any insight on how to calculate likely fuel and electricity costs for the Cayenne e Hybrid?
I'm not a company car driver so that doesn't factor in.
Also any other insights on experience of running the Cayenne e Hybrid that might help to justify the higher price over the base model would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Thanks for all the info, that's great. Biggles, I imagine that's the last-gen e-Hybrid, hopefully the new one will be a different proposition.
Powling, thanks for the great info. It's helping my ideas to form. Have you tried somebody else's iphone in your car? That might help determine whether the phone or the car is at fault.
So if you only use hybrid mode rather than pure electric, does it still need to be plugged in and recharged? If not, 30-35 mpg is already a good advantage over the base petrol model, which I hear has real-world mpg of around 20-24 mpg.
This is my very rule-of-thumb understanding, which is probably completely wrong so anybody feel free to correct me:
Yearly miles of 10,000 miles:
5000 in hybrid mode at £1.35 per litre and 30-35 mpg: £876.75 to £1022.87 per year.
5000 in pure electric: about £500 a year on my household electricity bill (a pretty wild estimate, not sure how to calculate this).
As opposed to standard petrol Cayenne:
10,000 miles at 23 mpg at £1.35 per litre: £2668.36 per year.
Powling, thanks for the great info. It's helping my ideas to form. Have you tried somebody else's iphone in your car? That might help determine whether the phone or the car is at fault.
So if you only use hybrid mode rather than pure electric, does it still need to be plugged in and recharged? If not, 30-35 mpg is already a good advantage over the base petrol model, which I hear has real-world mpg of around 20-24 mpg.
This is my very rule-of-thumb understanding, which is probably completely wrong so anybody feel free to correct me:
Yearly miles of 10,000 miles:
5000 in hybrid mode at £1.35 per litre and 30-35 mpg: £876.75 to £1022.87 per year.
5000 in pure electric: about £500 a year on my household electricity bill (a pretty wild estimate, not sure how to calculate this).
As opposed to standard petrol Cayenne:
10,000 miles at 23 mpg at £1.35 per litre: £2668.36 per year.
Yes, funnily enough, I just told the sales exec I was on the fence about the e hybrid and he pointed out that with electric Macans and Cayennes coming at some point, the e hybrid could be in an awkward area.
I think with that in mind, and the reduced boot space, heavier weight and inconvenience of plugging in every day for the sake of 20 miles on electric, I'm not sure I'd get the best value out of it. The standard Cayenne would be simpler for now, and hopefully there will be some good electric SUV options coming out for next time.
I think with that in mind, and the reduced boot space, heavier weight and inconvenience of plugging in every day for the sake of 20 miles on electric, I'm not sure I'd get the best value out of it. The standard Cayenne would be simpler for now, and hopefully there will be some good electric SUV options coming out for next time.
Just want to say thanks for all the replies to my post. I did go for the petrol in the end and picked it up in November. Apart from a couple of first-week niggles (needed hard reset to communicate with my phone, and a door light fell out), it's been an absolute joy to own and drive. The truffle brown club leather is expensive but I'm definitely glad I went for it as it feels as luxurious and premium as it should for a car of this price.
It certainly does guzzle the fuel; the less efficient trips in town have been as low as 12 mpg, going up to 29 mpg on a good, leisurely run. Averaging 22 mpg in the first 2000 miles.
I still wonder if I should've got an e-Hybrid but some issues played on my mind such as reduced wading depth and reduced boot size. I'm hoping, with the Taycan leading the way, there will be some good pure-electric options to follow when I eventually change in a few years.
It certainly does guzzle the fuel; the less efficient trips in town have been as low as 12 mpg, going up to 29 mpg on a good, leisurely run. Averaging 22 mpg in the first 2000 miles.
I still wonder if I should've got an e-Hybrid but some issues played on my mind such as reduced wading depth and reduced boot size. I'm hoping, with the Taycan leading the way, there will be some good pure-electric options to follow when I eventually change in a few years.
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