a 997 as a daily, long commuter and only car?
Discussion
Afternoon all,
(long winded, so have a Brew ready)
Having read all the threads about using a 997 as a daily driver and only car, has me thinking about taking the plunge now as opposed to waiting t0 leave my current role, currently I commute to work on a Monday morning at 0400 ish then back on Thursday PM.
Journey: Plymouth to London, park at work (central London) then during the week secure underground car park, then on drive/garage at Plymouth.
(Previous thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I did look at 320d and 330d, as a just a commuter, for the next 20 months while i'm in this role. Currently this will be my commute until March 2022. After that I will leave this employer, get a hefty pay out / savings accessible and intend to purchase a 997.
So currently using a GTD DSG which is quite good, £50 a week in fuel, but I get £227 a month from work for this commuting a month.
So my question is: Do I stop waiting for the "right" time to get a 997 and start enjoying it, while my employer is paying £227 towards fuel (I estimate my fuel cost will be £400 pm roughly), get in to 997 ownership 20 months early and enjoy the "Porsche life style!
Will doing 2000 miles per month kill the 997, and make me resent it?
Do I keep the GTD and get the 997 for weekends (extra running costs of 2nd car (even though insurance is cheaper than the GTD!)
Will 4 to 5 hours in an Auto 997 break my spine!
Thanks for your thoughts in advance!
(long winded, so have a Brew ready)
Having read all the threads about using a 997 as a daily driver and only car, has me thinking about taking the plunge now as opposed to waiting t0 leave my current role, currently I commute to work on a Monday morning at 0400 ish then back on Thursday PM.
Journey: Plymouth to London, park at work (central London) then during the week secure underground car park, then on drive/garage at Plymouth.
(Previous thread https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I did look at 320d and 330d, as a just a commuter, for the next 20 months while i'm in this role. Currently this will be my commute until March 2022. After that I will leave this employer, get a hefty pay out / savings accessible and intend to purchase a 997.
So currently using a GTD DSG which is quite good, £50 a week in fuel, but I get £227 a month from work for this commuting a month.
So my question is: Do I stop waiting for the "right" time to get a 997 and start enjoying it, while my employer is paying £227 towards fuel (I estimate my fuel cost will be £400 pm roughly), get in to 997 ownership 20 months early and enjoy the "Porsche life style!
Will doing 2000 miles per month kill the 997, and make me resent it?
Do I keep the GTD and get the 997 for weekends (extra running costs of 2nd car (even though insurance is cheaper than the GTD!)
Will 4 to 5 hours in an Auto 997 break my spine!
Thanks for your thoughts in advance!
I'm not to fussed about the depreciation, as I aim to use it until it dies and (when able) euro trips!
I'm just realising that maybe I should take advantage of being in a position / opportunity where my employer contributes towards my fuel (and if needed to travel with the car)
when I leave it will be local work only, and no fuel contribution, which means am I wasting this mincing round in another bogo 2.0 tdi, when I could be enjoying a 997!
I'm just realising that maybe I should take advantage of being in a position / opportunity where my employer contributes towards my fuel (and if needed to travel with the car)
when I leave it will be local work only, and no fuel contribution, which means am I wasting this mincing round in another bogo 2.0 tdi, when I could be enjoying a 997!
Thanks Bert / Scrump,
I'm a bit of a man maths geek, and have become obsessed with spending less than my fuel allowance, but am missing out on "enjoying" a car. also waiting 20 months for a situation that may not exist (EU Exit, Fuel 997 value may well change)
Running wise:
Insurance is actually cheaper by £12 annually Win
Tax from £165 to £330 I'm happy with that
Tyres from £112 to £104 Pilot P sport (From my trusted Tyre Indi)
Servicing 12m garage and I do liquids and filters 6 monthly unsure what it will cost. but £300 to £400 in my
head.
Fuel from £200pm to £400 Tank to tank is £48 to £50 per week in the GTD, so 60mpg vs 33mpg from Autotrader is more like 50
mpg and 26 respectively. I'm pretty good at sticking to teh speed limit in CC as my route is full
cameras and AVG speed areas.
Just need to find a good local Porsche garage in Plymouth and a 997 with a rebuilt engine...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
or
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...
I'm a bit of a man maths geek, and have become obsessed with spending less than my fuel allowance, but am missing out on "enjoying" a car. also waiting 20 months for a situation that may not exist (EU Exit, Fuel 997 value may well change)
Running wise:
Insurance is actually cheaper by £12 annually Win
Tax from £165 to £330 I'm happy with that
Tyres from £112 to £104 Pilot P sport (From my trusted Tyre Indi)
Servicing 12m garage and I do liquids and filters 6 monthly unsure what it will cost. but £300 to £400 in my
head.
Fuel from £200pm to £400 Tank to tank is £48 to £50 per week in the GTD, so 60mpg vs 33mpg from Autotrader is more like 50
mpg and 26 respectively. I'm pretty good at sticking to teh speed limit in CC as my route is full
cameras and AVG speed areas.
Just need to find a good local Porsche garage in Plymouth and a 997 with a rebuilt engine...
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
or
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202...
So using man Math (or self justification)
Keeping both will be cheaper on fuel monthly. so 5 months of ownership will cover the 997 insurance and tax, barring any big bills.
Just leaves weekend running, I have fired off a request to see what my insurance will be if I have two cars on my policy.
need to do some more man math!
Keeping both will be cheaper on fuel monthly. so 5 months of ownership will cover the 997 insurance and tax, barring any big bills.
Just leaves weekend running, I have fired off a request to see what my insurance will be if I have two cars on my policy.
need to do some more man math!
Evening All,
Some good comments and a few "Nail on the head" one liners.
I realised I have a been locked in a MPG obsession! Probably because of my being a "Traveller" at work for 20 odd years, and just trudging to work and back, going home at weekends. Now starting to realise that its not forever, the rest of the world drive normal cars and just pay for it, and life is short. My plan to exit this job was due next July (12 months wait) now probably Mar 22 (20 months wait) In that time the whole world could change (In terms of motoring, fuel price / access)
"Superdavros" - I chose an Auto for being sat in traffic and the 4 to 5 hour drives, plus I'm crap in a manual unless it is a Defender or some other idiot proof tractor/truck. Not sure if the time in manual smashing through the gears is worth being in traffic flicking between neutral and 1st. (Plus I'm lazy!)
25k pa mileage is impressive, as for bills, I'll be putting some way each month as my rainy day fund, poss the sale of the GTD could be a slush fund. But I'm inclined to keep it.
"Fnumber1user" - I'm happy with the fuel figures being higher than actual figures (my GTD actual is 10mpg less than the comp) plus the addiction of the sound and nipping to the shop in it...
And you are bang on, when it comes to stuff like this I am Mr Indecision. Because it "might" be expensive (vs my old Disco 1) it wont be a MPG 50+, its not practical (I can just use the neighbours truck)
My GTD Sale is going slow as it appears to attract: "Best Price", "last Price" £ 1/2 the asking price etc, so I will keep in bu design or luck. So I can probably try it out during the week and weekends only.
"Stuart70" - another good point - Although I do regret doing Plymouth to Malmo at Christmas in a 520d, which in my head was a special car trip (It was actually quite a good car for the trip)
"Andyoz" - As crap as getting up at 03:30 is, it is better than going up Sunday evening, which kills Sunday in its entirety.
Now the next question is Targa or C4S
Reading time:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-buying-guides/...
Some good comments and a few "Nail on the head" one liners.
I realised I have a been locked in a MPG obsession! Probably because of my being a "Traveller" at work for 20 odd years, and just trudging to work and back, going home at weekends. Now starting to realise that its not forever, the rest of the world drive normal cars and just pay for it, and life is short. My plan to exit this job was due next July (12 months wait) now probably Mar 22 (20 months wait) In that time the whole world could change (In terms of motoring, fuel price / access)
"Superdavros" - I chose an Auto for being sat in traffic and the 4 to 5 hour drives, plus I'm crap in a manual unless it is a Defender or some other idiot proof tractor/truck. Not sure if the time in manual smashing through the gears is worth being in traffic flicking between neutral and 1st. (Plus I'm lazy!)
25k pa mileage is impressive, as for bills, I'll be putting some way each month as my rainy day fund, poss the sale of the GTD could be a slush fund. But I'm inclined to keep it.
"Fnumber1user" - I'm happy with the fuel figures being higher than actual figures (my GTD actual is 10mpg less than the comp) plus the addiction of the sound and nipping to the shop in it...
And you are bang on, when it comes to stuff like this I am Mr Indecision. Because it "might" be expensive (vs my old Disco 1) it wont be a MPG 50+, its not practical (I can just use the neighbours truck)
My GTD Sale is going slow as it appears to attract: "Best Price", "last Price" £ 1/2 the asking price etc, so I will keep in bu design or luck. So I can probably try it out during the week and weekends only.
"Stuart70" - another good point - Although I do regret doing Plymouth to Malmo at Christmas in a 520d, which in my head was a special car trip (It was actually quite a good car for the trip)
"Andyoz" - As crap as getting up at 03:30 is, it is better than going up Sunday evening, which kills Sunday in its entirety.
Now the next question is Targa or C4S
Reading time:
https://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-buying-guides/...
Some good views.
Normally I commute Plymouth to Portsmouth, 3 hours at 178 miles, easy. This is a bit worse, others do Manchester to Plymouth or Cornwall. So I feel a little better.
Found this near work, looks like a lot of work has already been carried out.
Also looks like the street from Layer Cake
From this topic:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Not that, that is reason to buy it...
Normally I commute Plymouth to Portsmouth, 3 hours at 178 miles, easy. This is a bit worse, others do Manchester to Plymouth or Cornwall. So I feel a little better.
Found this near work, looks like a lot of work has already been carried out.
Also looks like the street from Layer Cake
From this topic:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Not that, that is reason to buy it...
Evening,
I was going to pop and see the 997 above, but could not get away from work in time. I did speak with the garage that have looked after it for 8 years or so.
Loads of good info on the 996 and 997, and almost £8k of work in the last 3 years.
My budget is £20k, originally I was after a good 996 with some spare cash just in case, now I have seen some at the top of my budget with a lot of major work done, either repair or remedial.
I was going to pop and see the 997 above, but could not get away from work in time. I did speak with the garage that have looked after it for 8 years or so.
Loads of good info on the 996 and 997, and almost £8k of work in the last 3 years.
My budget is £20k, originally I was after a good 996 with some spare cash just in case, now I have seen some at the top of my budget with a lot of major work done, either repair or remedial.
Morning,
More good points. All well received. Due to circumstance I will end up running both, might use the 99X on a London trip now and again. WRT the bills, I think they are to be expected on any 16+ year old car, especially a prestige marque. I have 2 independents near me which is good, and have been talking to an absolute fountain of knowledge at Tower Porsche in London.
From my research, I'm looking at cars that have had some of the big stuff done already, which is raising the bar and price.
This also brings up the well asked WWW question: 996 C4S or 997 C2S, but I think I will see what I can get fr £20k, that is the newest with the most history.
More good points. All well received. Due to circumstance I will end up running both, might use the 99X on a London trip now and again. WRT the bills, I think they are to be expected on any 16+ year old car, especially a prestige marque. I have 2 independents near me which is good, and have been talking to an absolute fountain of knowledge at Tower Porsche in London.
From my research, I'm looking at cars that have had some of the big stuff done already, which is raising the bar and price.
This also brings up the well asked WWW question: 996 C4S or 997 C2S, but I think I will see what I can get fr £20k, that is the newest with the most history.
Hi The_Doc,
Very contrasting view, I will more than likely keep the GTD for the mainstay of work duties and trudging around.
From my limited 996 / 997 research you are correct that 20k is the lower end of the 997 market mainly C2 or C2s in range. But some decent 996 C2s and a few questionable C4S.
For me it is an itch to scratch, some have reported trouble free motoring (I have never experienced that...) so I'm after something with a lot of recent history and major work carried out. Plus it is not forever....
Very contrasting view, I will more than likely keep the GTD for the mainstay of work duties and trudging around.
From my limited 996 / 997 research you are correct that 20k is the lower end of the 997 market mainly C2 or C2s in range. But some decent 996 C2s and a few questionable C4S.
For me it is an itch to scratch, some have reported trouble free motoring (I have never experienced that...) so I'm after something with a lot of recent history and major work carried out. Plus it is not forever....
So yesterday I test drove a local 996 C2, it was immaculate and had a whole raft of Porsche and local Porsche SH. It is up for 14.5k.
On the test drive, it didin't set me on fire, admittedly I went there to just see one. The colour and type were not on my wish list.
I joined the 996/997 Facebook group for research as well, and the first thing that came up was my price entry point. Similar to the sentiment on here 20k is the low end for decent models.
So dug out an old copy of Modern Classics the Porsche edition (994,928,996 (Tagra) and Boxer), and the Flat Six Hero edition (Z4M, Cayman & 350Z)
just on entry point you get a newer, better spec (and advertised) Cayman or Z4M, with decent ones at 15k. I'll hopefully see teh 996 Tagra today, and the 997 C2S next week (In London, with awesome SH, 12k of bills and great garage recommendation)
Noting the comments about using the 99X as the London commuter, Ill just have to try it, I think.
On the test drive, it didin't set me on fire, admittedly I went there to just see one. The colour and type were not on my wish list.
I joined the 996/997 Facebook group for research as well, and the first thing that came up was my price entry point. Similar to the sentiment on here 20k is the low end for decent models.
So dug out an old copy of Modern Classics the Porsche edition (994,928,996 (Tagra) and Boxer), and the Flat Six Hero edition (Z4M, Cayman & 350Z)
just on entry point you get a newer, better spec (and advertised) Cayman or Z4M, with decent ones at 15k. I'll hopefully see teh 996 Tagra today, and the 997 C2S next week (In London, with awesome SH, 12k of bills and great garage recommendation)
Noting the comments about using the 99X as the London commuter, Ill just have to try it, I think.
Hi Pushed Over,
That is a smart car, one local to me for 15k. now viewing on Monday.
Joey 5
I'll have a look, did you get any pre inspection done?
Having thrown Cayman and Z4M in to the mix my indecision is going in to overdrive! Had a long chat with the garage owner of teh Z4M, he is taking it off for an overhaul and cam adjustment (a 30k service schedule) and should be viewing it on Thursday, it is the one from BMW Car magazine! although at £19k, with 77k. feels a little more than the market.
He also mentioned the Cayman 2.7 is a better buy over a 3.6.......
That is a smart car, one local to me for 15k. now viewing on Monday.
Joey 5
I'll have a look, did you get any pre inspection done?
Having thrown Cayman and Z4M in to the mix my indecision is going in to overdrive! Had a long chat with the garage owner of teh Z4M, he is taking it off for an overhaul and cam adjustment (a 30k service schedule) and should be viewing it on Thursday, it is the one from BMW Car magazine! although at £19k, with 77k. feels a little more than the market.
He also mentioned the Cayman 2.7 is a better buy over a 3.6.......
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