One for the turbo boys
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I remember the first time I saw a 993TT on the M25 giving it some. He was sat parallel next to me in the outside lane at 70mph. The guy obviously put it in third and mashed the hammer, as this thing just took off. The acceleration was astounding. It almost looked as if the car stretched, just like the USS Enterprise. Deeply impressive party trick.
(After talking to other enthusiasts about the various merits of TT v RS scenarios, one guy summed it all up quite well I thought; the RS is a nice sports car, but the TT is a true supercar, due to the vast differential in acceleration. Can't argue with that really).
(After talking to other enthusiasts about the various merits of TT v RS scenarios, one guy summed it all up quite well I thought; the RS is a nice sports car, but the TT is a true supercar, due to the vast differential in acceleration. Can't argue with that really).
UV, that was a superb post - very helpful, if a little technical at times.De, It's damn irritating that the supremacy of the TT even comes into question these days. It's just not on. It seems you have to be a member of the 500 club just to keep above the water. Did you notice on the 'front page' of PH, there is a 500bhp Seat coming out. A bloody SEAT!! WTF?!! That is a depressing thought.
I wonder how far Porsche is prepared to go to ward off these commoners? They had better instal 600 ponies or it'll be an utter waste of time wheeling it out of the factory doors. I really hope they don't rely on the overpriced boxter GT to wave the flag for our struggling TT. If the 997TT is to be of questionable poke, then a cheap 996TT and 8k in G-Forces's hand will see 550 reasons not to bother with it.
I wonder how far Porsche is prepared to go to ward off these commoners? They had better instal 600 ponies or it'll be an utter waste of time wheeling it out of the factory doors. I really hope they don't rely on the overpriced boxter GT to wave the flag for our struggling TT. If the 997TT is to be of questionable poke, then a cheap 996TT and 8k in G-Forces's hand will see 550 reasons not to bother with it.
Domster, I AM TOTALLY open minded about the RS v TT situation. I would actually love both.
Trouble is, I've just finished reading an article comparing the GT2 and TT, both pushing out 550 big ones. It really get's me thinking about the need for absolute power. If you really wanted to, then I guess the addition of a caterfield or xtr2, for about 10k, would compliment the TT nicely. Thus removing the RS from the equation all together. That would be a fine garage wouldn't it. It does seem power corrupts. Even reading juicy road tests about it too!
Btw, I think your wrong about acceleration not being a fundamental requirement of a supercar. The elise is a fine sports car around the corners, just like the RS, but as every Top Trump player knows the elise is no supercar.
For me a supercar has to have all bases covered: massive acceleration, cornering prowess, fine interior, sexy shape, exclusivity - which can only be brought about by high price, plus it must sound good. Lot's of fine sports cars cover some of those areas, but only those that have it all will attain supercar status.
Therefore, I stick my neck out and state: the 911 Turbo is a true supercar, whilst The RS is one of the worlds greatest sportscars.
>> Edited by Roadrunner on Saturday 26th April 11:17
Trouble is, I've just finished reading an article comparing the GT2 and TT, both pushing out 550 big ones. It really get's me thinking about the need for absolute power. If you really wanted to, then I guess the addition of a caterfield or xtr2, for about 10k, would compliment the TT nicely. Thus removing the RS from the equation all together. That would be a fine garage wouldn't it. It does seem power corrupts. Even reading juicy road tests about it too!
Btw, I think your wrong about acceleration not being a fundamental requirement of a supercar. The elise is a fine sports car around the corners, just like the RS, but as every Top Trump player knows the elise is no supercar.
For me a supercar has to have all bases covered: massive acceleration, cornering prowess, fine interior, sexy shape, exclusivity - which can only be brought about by high price, plus it must sound good. Lot's of fine sports cars cover some of those areas, but only those that have it all will attain supercar status.
Therefore, I stick my neck out and state: the 911 Turbo is a true supercar, whilst The RS is one of the worlds greatest sportscars.
>> Edited by Roadrunner on Saturday 26th April 11:17
Exactly! I've been looking into high end hi-fi recently, if you want a new obsession. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll enlighten you to the joys of Mark Levinson and Krell.
I imagine you'd be luck to see 30mpg when toting 600 gee gee's too. I expect 5 might be nearer the mark, unfortunately. There's a line in the sand somewhere between 500 and 600, unless your an Arab.
Yep, that was me with the 1100 tale. That was from 9M btw.
I imagine you'd be luck to see 30mpg when toting 600 gee gee's too. I expect 5 might be nearer the mark, unfortunately. There's a line in the sand somewhere between 500 and 600, unless your an Arab.
Yep, that was me with the 1100 tale. That was from 9M btw.
De, Don't even mention the ML in the lexus. What a bloody scam. That's just a very unfortunate piece of badge engineering I'm afraid, after the man himself departed the company. Not the stuff 390S dreams are made of. (944 with tartan trim). Mmm, woolly jumper and pipe, me thinks not. More a boss t and a toke kinda guy really.
Anyway, now that Dom has left the building...
What IS he on?
Anyway, now that Dom has left the building...
What IS he on?
(Looking for rock to crawl back under)Question to all: How do you all view these Skylines?
Would you trade your 911 for one? Personally, I respect what they can achieve a great deal. As a total package though, I'd still go for the 'lesser' (!)911TT. Outrageous performance is good, but I'd also like the sexy shape and the total package it offers.
Guy, Have you ever humbled anyone on the road big style?
Would you trade your 911 for one? Personally, I respect what they can achieve a great deal. As a total package though, I'd still go for the 'lesser' (!)911TT. Outrageous performance is good, but I'd also like the sexy shape and the total package it offers.
Guy, Have you ever humbled anyone on the road big style?
According to those that know (not me, doh!) the 996TT is THE all-round DADDY. Looks like the Ruf TR is as good as it gets right now. Unfortunately, they are DAMN expensive brand new, and never come up for sale used in RHD. For mortals or the sane, that only leaves G-Force's talents on a 'common' wide body. Such is life, eh? 
Really? I'm into the home cineama a bit. What did you go for? I have cyrus, but fancy Tag btw.
Spain eh? A mate that I mentioned a while ago (his other mate has the mega villa) wants to move to PB. It seems lots of people I've spoken to go there all the time. I'll prob be going out to PB this summer for the first time.
Out of interest, how can you go there full time? I thought you were a permanent city trader. Have things changed? Will you still trade on line or something.
I've been day dreaming about this kinda thing for a while too. Have relative in Belgium, with a pad in spain too as it goes, and others in Monaco. A good mate has sodded off to Aus to. Everyones doing it! Not sure what I'd do if I did move tho. Without the lingo I mean. I'm an Illustrator and retoucher btw....
Spain eh? A mate that I mentioned a while ago (his other mate has the mega villa) wants to move to PB. It seems lots of people I've spoken to go there all the time. I'll prob be going out to PB this summer for the first time.
Out of interest, how can you go there full time? I thought you were a permanent city trader. Have things changed? Will you still trade on line or something.
I've been day dreaming about this kinda thing for a while too. Have relative in Belgium, with a pad in spain too as it goes, and others in Monaco. A good mate has sodded off to Aus to. Everyones doing it! Not sure what I'd do if I did move tho. Without the lingo I mean. I'm an Illustrator and retoucher btw....
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