997 Gen 2 DFI Engines - Woes finally sorted?

[mollytherocker]

Do these engines mark the end of the much discussed weaknesses, i.e; liner cracking, bore scoring and IMS failures?

Can we now buy with confidence?

Or is it too early to conclude? Is coking up a real issue on these engines?

MTR

[mollytherocker]

I am not worried. I am interested in whether these engines have finally been 'fixed'.

MTR

[mollytherocker]

HoHoHo said:

mollytherocker said:

I am not worried. I am interested in whether these engines have finally been 'fixed'.

MTR

I don't know the answer to that (not that you expect me to )

But what I do know is that regardless of real world statistics, the scaremongerers (word?) will find a reason to make everybody st themselves about their P&J going bang.

Personally I'm bored of reading threads with people asking questions about if their car will either lose money or go pop. Cars will always lose money and some engines will go pop. It would be interesting to know what the real world percentage is of 996/997 engines that have had the faults we all assume our own cars have. One thing to bear in mind is the cost of the warranty is not very expensive and if Porsche were replacing loads of engines and whatever else that keeps breaking, it would be a whole lot more than it is.

I'm not having a dig at you Sir, and I think we should start a 'My car is really reliable, and I love it' thread!

I appreciate and respect that you are not interested in this topic.

I am though from a technical point of view, and I would imagine that many other Porschefiles are too.

MTR

[mollytherocker]

Some great info there Ian, many thanks.

In terms of the general coking issues on this type of engine, what can an owner do to limit the issue?

MTR

[mollytherocker]

///ajd said:

It is encouraging if the 997.2 onwards etc. is really is the end of the water cooled engine problems.

7.2s are still >£40k. I wonder if they will keep their value better than 996/997.1s as a result?

I am wondering this. Logically, you would have to believe that they will fare better but due to their numbers and the doom and gloom economy, I reckon they will fall just as fast.

The gen 2 may end up being a pretty smart purchase in a couple of years.

MTR

[mollytherocker]

///ajd said:

mollytherocker said:

The gen 2 may end up being a pretty smart purchase in a couple of years.

I suspect we aren't the only 2 thinking this. Stop it, it'll improve residuals before we buy one = bad .

Conversation in 5 years time.

Owner - 'Hi, I just bought a 997!'
Friend - 'Wow, very nice! Gen 2 DFI?'
Owner - 'Er no.'
Friend - 'Oh'.

MTR

[mollytherocker]

I thought I would give my 2.5 year old thread a bit of a bump to see if anythings changed?

These engines have now served for circa 5 years and reliability is looking good.

So, can we truly say that Porsche are fully back to making quality engines again?

[mollytherocker]

anonymous said:

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This is exactly my frustration!

It would have cost very little to sort the fundamental design issues, and they just said 'fk it' for 10 years!

I dont get it, and never will.

[mollytherocker]

RiccardoG said:

So, with the prices of the earlier Gen 2s now being within "an engine rebuild" of the last Gen 1s (ie: ~£10k) does this mean its a good idea for me to consider a Gen 2? Man maths at its best!

I think so.