Warning about used Discovery Sport and Evoque Diesels - LRM

[Grimsby]

I was looking at a used Land Rover DS but advised to be careful because of a recurrent steering fault that can cost £2500 to £3000 to put right. Apparently this is caused by salt corrosion of three aluminium bolts and in Canada they even had a recall but for some reason the DfT have let them off - as usual. Added to which Land Rover Monthly is now warning about known DPF problems on the DS and Evoque with possible engine failures from poor lubrication.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/d0bcrd7sve4l598/D8_Dilut...
https://www.evoqueownersclub.co.uk/attachments/lrm...

Edited by Grimsby on Tuesday 7th January 20:11

[Grimsby]

Update on the narrow escape we had with the Land Rover diesel. While we moved on and bought a lovely Volvo XC60 I see somebody else has taken JLR to court alleging that the company knew about these problems and deliberately concealed the information from buyers. Pretty much confirms what LRM said.

7.. Despite notice of the DPF Defect from, among other things, pre-production testing, warranty data, customer complaints at dealerships, and dealership repair orders, Defendant has not recalled the Class Vehicles to repair the Defect, has not offered its customers a suitable repair or replacement free of charge, and has not offered to reimburse all Class Vehicle owners and leaseholders the costs they incurred relating to diagnosing and repairing the DPF Defect.
8. Defendant knew of and concealed the DPF Defect that is contained in every Class Vehicle, along with the attendant dangerous safety problems and associated repair costs, from Plaintiff and the other Class Members both at the time of sale and repair and thereafter. As a result of their reliance on Defendant’s omissions and/or misrepresentations, owners and/or lessees of the Class Vehicles have suffered ascertainable loss of money, property, and/or loss in value of their Class Vehicles.

https://www.classaction.org/media/shaaya-v-jaguar-...

Edited by Grimsby on Friday 18th September 12:04

[Grimsby]

The Spruce Goose said:

At one point in China 70 % of all JLR cars were recalled, highest in history.
It amazes me how JLR sell premium products that seemly made with corners cut. Quality has never been high on there agenda.

Built around the iconic Range Rover branding, Land Rover sells cars which are:

- highly desirable to own
- more expensive than equivalent models
- expensive to service
- more likely to go wrong
- more expensive to fix when they do.

In short, it looks like the perfect business model. Except that Tata is actually running a Ponzi scheme built on £6.5 billion of debt and it can't turn the taps off fast enough to prevent it running out of cash (It's down to £2.7 billion). Introducing the FY21 Q1 financial results Adrian Mardell (CFO, Jaguar Land Rover) said:

Other key highlights here, investment much lower, and you won’t be surprised given what we’ve all been through, we’ve done what companies do. We battened down our investments and we battened down our spend, there’s been a dramatic impact on these results. Because our cash out flow was £1.5 billion, higher than last years £719 million outflow, April and May cash out flow was £1.5 billion also which tells you our June cash was breakeven. And the cash balance, the absolute cash balance on hand was very close to the balance we had at the end of quarter one last year at £2.7 billion. We’ll get into the Charge benefits and the reason for the cash losses later.

Q1 FY21 RESULTS CALL TRANSCRIPT

The irony is that cash-rich Geely might end up owning both Volvo and Land Rover!