parts in a box - help me ID them & saxo power steering

parts in a box - help me ID them & saxo power steering

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Chimp871

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Tuesday 13th February 2018
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I've had the cerebra several months but is a non starter whilst I go about general repairs and have now found the air con pulley and original power steering pump have been removed.

When I bought the car it came with a box full of parts like old lights, old/spare saxo steering pump etc.....

Can anyone explain which pulley is the correct one for the air con? I assume the single pulley and there's also a mysterious relay looking part with no part numbers that I have no idea what it does/where it goes, finally is the double-pulley which again I've no idea where it came from confused

My installed saxo power steering pump starts up and makes a whine and has 12v going to it but has zero effect on the steering, it was ok for the first 2 months or so and gradually got worse before not working at all. On the spare one in the picture I noticed there's a plastic coupler between the saxo motor and pump (both are male spades) and wondered if they typically rounded and therefore stopped pumping?

I'm keen to keep it original and think about buying and installing the original PS pump and modify the female housing as mentioned on here by fitting 3 grub screws to help support the keyway - good or bad idea? I don't know which one people find better.



Edited by Chimp871 on Tuesday 13th February 14:07

Chimp871

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Tuesday 13th February 2018
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cheers gents - any comments on the power steering problem and if anyone has taken it apart and spotted probems?

Chimp871

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Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Hi Ukkid

Yours is the post I read. Thanks for the extra info.

I take it the grub screw solved your problems? Also didn't you relieve the high pressure outlet to a wider diameter? How did that affect steering?

Anyone know if the cerbera PAS pump is a bog standard LR pump? Could do with a part number seeing as mine is missing!


Chimp871

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Wednesday 14th February 2018
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Thnx for that I bought it.

Just need the hoses now and got my local engineer shop to drill and tap 3 grub screws.

Any ideas on the original woodruff key size or is it test and see?

Chimp871

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Monday 19th February 2018
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Many thnx

Chimp871

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Monday 26th February 2018
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anyone know the bolt size and length as these are missing too....

Chimp871

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Monday 26th February 2018
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many thnx that helps a lot and save time on my back messing around.

Chimp871

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Saturday 3rd March 2018
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as ever thnx.

So the PAS pump has arrived and is original and look sin good condition. As I mentioned before the previous owner(s) removed the old PAS pump and so I now realise that there is an adapter flange to connect pump to shaft.

Picture below of internet explains it, I don't have the part in red. I've looked for it on line, and I should have picked up on it sooner from Ukkid's pictures, but obviously need it. Any sources?


Chimp871

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Saturday 3rd March 2018
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ok found it - not cheap..... if anyone knows a cheaper source (is it a LR part?) I'd appreciate it

http://www.powersperformance.co.uk/store/slug/ajp-...

Chimp871

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Tuesday 13th March 2018
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so ordered a coupler and noticed the new version has a grub screw to secure key in place. I'm still planning to do another grub screw 180o opposite keyway but thought I'd share.

PS - the banjo bolt from TVR parts for their 'modified' hose is too long at 40mm.
PPS - now need the 3 x drive pins connecting coupler to pump. Fun and games.


Chimp871

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Tuesday 1st May 2018
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Hopefully ukkid will see this.....

Got all parts now and most importantly a bit of time. I tried to get the pump in situ today but the exhaust manifold is stopping the pump going in place. I then thought "I'll remove the sump, how hard can it be?", until I realised its an engine out job to get the sump off.

Sonia there a way of manoeuvring the pump into its place?

Chimp871

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Wednesday 9th May 2018
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I'd thought I'd close this thread with a few comments.

The hydraulic PAS is much better than the electric saxo pump allbeit its now sensitive on mway but this may be me just getting used to assisted steering.

The fault on the saxo pump was the plastic coupler on between the electric motor and pump, it had sheared. So although the pump worked the pumps was doing zip. I changed the couple with the spare one I had in the parts box that came with the car but that also sheared too.

Fitting the PAS hose form pump to rack was a pain, a real pain and had to remove the rack-to-chassis bolts on the pass side to jack and tilt it to allow the hose to screw into rack.

The return hose nipple on the rack would be hard to screw in so I slotted the hose tail to allow a large screw driver to screw it in. Picture below.



I found the hydraulic PAS pump wouldn't sit flush to the body on the engine as the pump had threads, i drilled the threads out so the pump would bolt directly on to the engine body and be flush. All works fine now. So far....