Engine Hoist Advice

[ukkid35]

I need to pull the engine, but I've been warned that the reach needed is greater than some hoists can manage

Can anyone confirm what hoist will do the job?

I don't have to worry about the gearbox/clutch as they have already been removed

The engine is completely freestanding on a platform in the engine bay

Any advice or offers of help would be extremely welcome

[ukkid35]

Demondad said:

Sorry to miss this but I might well pop down to join the gang. Mines in bits!

Would be great to hear from you Stuart as I can't PM you

[ukkid35]

PhilH42 said:

I used a 1 tonne switzer and it is possible but watch your paintwork!

Jhonno said:

phillpot said:

Would a "standard" hoist work if pushed in from one side rather than from the front?

Yes.

Because of where I work, I can't gain proper access from the side

Therefore I've just returned a 1 ton Switzer, as the spec says reach is 1190mm, but that doesn't include the space taken by the hydraulics which probably take up at least 300mm

Distance from the front of the car to the centre of the engine is about 1200mm, so even the 2 ton Switzer which claims a reach of 1447mm would be very close

Wish I'd checked the measurements before buying...

A very generous PHer has offered to bring over the hoist he used so I will see how that works

[ukkid35]

FarmyardPants said:

PH to the rescue again

Why do you need to remove the engine, or did I miss a thread?

Auxiliary Drive Shaft failed, at the point when everything else was working brilliantly, freshly remapped by Joolz

[ukkid35]

FarmyardPants said:

Bummer.

You can hear that the engine really is working properly

https://youtu.be/x3Y1F1LwMB4?t=340

Sadly that was one of the last times I used the car

[ukkid35]

FarmyardPants said:

PH to the rescue again

In fact it should sound very familiar to you as we have basically the same setup

• Silverstone Performance Exhaust
• H Linked Decats
• 4.5 with Short Induction and Joolz remap

It will be very interesting to see how you fare at SRR, shame mine won't be on the rollers

[ukkid35]

Huge thank you to the PHer who lent me the SGS 1 ton hoist which, with my GF's assistance I was able to use from the side, as my neighbour was away for the day

[ukkid35]

phillpot said:

Byker28i said:

you're doing that in a parking space? Wow.

Looks like underground parking space, but with work bench along the back?

Conditions are total luxury compared with where I did a top end rebuild on my other car some years ago

This parking space was outside a friend's parents' house, about ten minutes walk from where I lived at the time

It took nearly six months to complete, I had no electricity or water, and you don't get much daylight over the winter (and I was totally broke too)

[ukkid35]

Mr Cerbera said:

Your Vid is AbFab. How did you make it so smooth ?
It's almost as if the camera is held in a SteadyCam

Thanks and yes of course you can

I lost my GoPro so borrowed a Hero5 from a generous friend and forgot to spend time making a test recording, that's why it looks like it's been filmed by a drunk - the stability control was switched on, so the camera tries to cancel out the car's direction changes

I'm now looking forward to getting the engine secured to the engine stand - using just four M10 bolts, what could possibly go wrong...

If anyone could actually show me any photos of the engine on an engine stand to prove that the bolts can handle the load, I'd be very grateful indeed

I'll be using 120mm bolts as studs so they use all the thread available, tightening them against the stand with nuts, I'll post a pic later to illustrate

Edited by ukkid35 on Thursday 14th November 08:48

[ukkid35]

Jhonno said:

You know the engine only weighs 120kg right? The tensile strength of 1 M10 8.8 bolt is about 4500kg..

It's not the bolts I'm worried about, it's pulling the threads out of the block that concerns me

I already have to deal with damaged threads in the two where the hollow locating dowels are fitted

Anyway, thanks both for your reassurance

[ukkid35]

Rufus Roughcut said:

Only have this shot I'm afraid.

That is really helpful

Looks like I need to remove the crank seal plate first

Also, I see you chose to use the top mount, rather than one of the side mounts, I was wondering about that

I was also considering trying to use all five, but I would need to borrow an extra 'leg', assuming I could find one that was a match

[ukkid35]

Byker28i said:

I don't have any photos of an AJP engine but I've done it in the past with a Ford 2.8 Cologne engine (capri) and probably have a photo.

From memory - make sure you get the engine balanced around it's center point if it's one of those ones that can rotate. Very disconcerting when it's really trying hard to spin upside down etc...

One of the useful features of the 2.8i Capri was that it prepared me for the fuel consumption of first my 928, and then my Cerb, all three managing roughly 20mpg

Thankfully the only work I ever had to do on the Cologne was adjust the valve rockers regularly, then after the luxury of hydraulic tappets on the 928 it was a bit of a shock to find I had to adjust valve clearances with shims on the AJP8

Thanks for the warning about balance, I had been thinking about that

[ukkid35]

[ukkid35]

m4tti said:

Curious .. Does the management company of the flats not say anything about the work bench.

The reason I've never pulled the engine before is because I have to tread very carefully, and try to keep everyone happy

Many years ago someone complained that I was working on the car late at night, and the management co asked me to stop working after 9pm, which I thought was quite a result

The person who complained has long since left, and others have told me that they find it reassuring to have someone they recognise in the garage late at night, when they return late themselves

I don't play music when I'm working on the car, I always have podcasts playing, which again I think people find comforting rather than irritating

[ukkid35]

Despite what I said about music, I did play some while Alejandro made this brilliant video

What I didn't realise what that he would have to mask it due to copyright issues

https://youtu.be/QHQyZJC9THM