Supercar event IOM 2018

[200Plus Club]

A friend of mine is looking to start up a new event next year, wonder if this is of interest to any clubs or groups. Straigtliners are the guys, so it could be quite a nice social trip. This was the info sent , will post further details as they come out. I don't know if anyone would mind sharing this with Adam and the guys at SCD perhaps?

"On a separate topic, We are going to run a Supercar event in the IOM next year the date will be the 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th of April 2018 this will consist of Drag Racing, a closed roads hill climb, a full track day with no noise limit ,a Kart Grand Prix a vist to the new Manx Motor Museum social functions and a drive over the mountain course
The package will cover the ferry and all the activites, there will be a full accommodation list at a discounted price so drivers can stay in a BB or 5 star hotel its up to them.
there will be an overall winner and a trophy, this will be an anual event."

Edited by 200Plus Club on Tuesday 14th November 21:30

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Think they are probably dictated by other events organised in the IOM in summer months.

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kman said:

SCD guys have done an event like this already this year.

This will have the opportunity of timed sprints and the closed road hill climb etc rather than just driving over the mountain. Jurby airfield for a track day isn't bad either. I'm not on the SCD forum but if someone can pass it on if of interest I can give them Trevs details if they want to perhaps talk direct.

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sparta6 said:

200Plus Club said:

This will have the opportunity of timed sprints and the closed road hill climb etc rather than just driving over the mountain. Jurby airfield for a track day isn't bad either. I'm not on the SCD forum but if someone can pass it on if of interest I can give them Trevs details if they want to perhaps talk direct.

Timed. So an MSA regulated event ?

timed yes, and approved, however i suspect MSA arent ruining it for everyone :-)
the same guys run the Ramsey sprint, which is day entry, so i suspect they are using the same licensing format for day entries and road cars.

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sparta6 said:

200Plus Club said:

sparta6 said:

200Plus Club said:

This will have the opportunity of timed sprints and the closed road hill climb etc rather than just driving over the mountain. Jurby airfield for a track day isn't bad either. I'm not on the SCD forum but if someone can pass it on if of interest I can give them Trevs details if they want to perhaps talk direct.

Timed. So an MSA regulated event ?

timed yes, and approved, however i suspect MSA arent ruining it for everyone :-)
the same guys run the Ramsey sprint, which is day entry, so i suspect they are using the same licensing format for day entries and road cars.

You will find that due to MSA homologation rules many supercars will require MSA ROPS (roll over protection systems). Some will need HANS. Some harness belts etc, applies to any model that had less than 1,000 units manufactured per annum.

God bless the MSA !

hey dont shoot the messenger, and the MSA dont sanction every event, hence Toyota sprints, javelin sprints, Ramsey sprint etc all run quite nicely. All these type events are being run by companies already running them without issue, at the end of the day this is people driving their road car to and from the IOM and taking part in some organised licensed (non MSA) activities.

Edited by 200Plus Club on Friday 17th November 16:25

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I'll post details up as and when. Obviously it will be open to all ! Some great cars on the island.

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Please stop going on about the msa lol. The other sanctioning bodies for these events manage to run other timed sprints you know !
If you are that interested go gave a chat with Straigtliners rather than taking the thread off topic.

Edited by 200Plus Club on Saturday 18th November 16:12

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sparta6 said:

It's hardly off-topic

Yes, the recognised sanctioning bodies for timed insured events are

(a) the Auto Cycle Union Limited
(b) the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile
(c) the Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme
(d) the Royal Automobile Club Motor Sports Association Limited

Suggest you go chat to Trev @ straightliners and ask how he runs about 40-50 events a year. Pendine sands, Ramsey sprint (for the IOM govt), pod drag racing, Ten of the Best, world wheelie records etc etc. None of which are run without official license, insurance and the like.

Back on topic, if anyone wants info head over to their website once info posted.

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sparta6 said:

OK. Thanks for clarifying the absence of insurance etc.

Whatever, idiot.

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I was referring to the childish comment "thank you for clarifying its run without insurance".. which was pathetic at best.

If anyone genuinely is interested I'll give you Trevors details and he will confirm that no one is required to get a roll cage fitted, no one will need hans devices fitting, and the events are run with full licensing and approval just like any other timed sprint event.
Javelin and Straightliners plus others all run perfectly safe legal events, via one of the other licensing agencies. Just speak to them rather than wasting your time guys :-)
Oranges are not the only fruit neither are the MSA lol.
This is a road car set of events, including road driving section and a non timed track day.

I've done as asked, passed the info on, thats me done now. Just for the pedant who believes the msa are the only way to go sprinting :

https://www.straightlinersonline.co.uk
http://www.javelinsprintdays.co.uk/sprint/

Anyone interested in the IOM supercar event just drop Trevor at Straightliners a line as it's all at the planning stage I believe.
Goodnight and God bless lol

Edited by 200Plus Club on Sunday 19th November 14:58

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Possibly frustration at someone obviously not aware the msa aren't the only sanctioning body and who obviously didn't want to go and look just argue instead.

I was just passing on info of what could be a nice 3 day event for people to drive their road cars to, I'm not involved personally, they run a myriad of sanctioned licensed organised events annually, would suggest anyone who wants to know more about the license etc contact straightliners direct. They will not need to worry about getting roll cages fitted as the guy suggested. The people running it are the same guys who close the front at Ramsey for the IOM sprint for the TT.

I have personally sprinted cars with javelin and straightliners, neither of which were run poorly or illegally in any aspect, if people aren't aware that you can do so outside the msa then all they need do is contact the organisers for info.

So there you go. Once any dates and details are available I'll post them up if needed or keep an eye on the straightliners website and contact them direct.
Cheers

Edited by 200Plus Club on Sunday 19th November 20:46

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sparta6 said:

200Plus Club said:

I was referring to the childish comment "thank you for clarifying its run without insurance"..

Edited by 200Plus Club on Sunday 19th November 14:58

When promoting an event on a public forum it is normal to receive a wide range of questions from potential entrants.

Questions about the sanctioning body and the inherent insurance are quite important when competing in hillclimbing events, just as they are important in MMA events.

There are two recognised sanctioning bodies for 4 wheel events, and two recognised sanctioning bodies for 2 wheel events, when competing in timed events on the public highway. Unfortunately you failed to answer which one it is.

There was no need to get your knickers in a twist

Unfortunately, i didnt fail anything nor was i obliged to provide all the details, you failed to realise its being sanctioned through one of the other bodies, as all their events are. Patronising and silly is how you come across, hence me being narked.

you appear to have bought the MSA underpant set and matching gloves, and were stating incorrectly about roll cages would be needed, and Hans devices. "god bless the MSA" was i believe one of your childish responses, along with "thanks for confirming it will be run without event insurance", when it obviously will not be, how do you think they run the Ramsey sprint, TOTB, Pendine sands, Top speed events etc??

i'm not promoting it, i passed on info out of interest because i might go myself, if you dont want to take part because its non MSA, so be it, i could care less.

anyone who wants to know who the sanctioning body are just give Trevor at straightliners a bell, email or message, or look on their website, they run many timed events for cars and bikes, and will be happy i'm sure to advise.

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As long as people aren't put off by the incorrect facts being touted about owners having to fit roll cages to their road cars or that it would be run unlicensed /uninsured because it's non msa and timed. Im tired of saying go chat to the organisers if genuine concerns exist about event insurance rather than have a pop.

Im pretty certain the IOM tourist board wouldn't have joined in trying to set this up or let them run it all if they believed it wouldn't be legally run and insured, they pay him to put on the Ramsey sprint for them after all at the TT every year.

Straightliners work closely with the IOM/tourist board and will apparently be offering packages i believe for reduced rate crossings and accomodation, which is why I am intetested, ive taken bikes and cars across on many occasions and done trackdays at Jurby, ive also been to the Sloc and spectated.

As I've said, it's early days of planning, I have no details other than the basics I posted at the start and I'm not involved personally in any way, if it's of interest I'll ask them to post details once finalised. I think they are just looking for any clubs or groups or individuals interested at this stage to get in touch perhaps.

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sparta6 said:

200Plus Club said:

Unfortunately, i didnt fail anything nor was i obliged to provide all the details, you failed to realise its being sanctioned through one of the other bodies, as all their events are. Patronising and silly is how you come across, hence me being narked.

Calling a complete stranger names paints you in a negative light.
Developing some self control would serve you well.
"God bless the MSA" was said with tongue-firmly-in-cheek.
I look forward to seeing you on the IOM.

Edited by sparta6 on Tuesday 21st November 11:19

no offense intended, i'm not trying to be rude, but I'm not really fussed if it portrays me in a negative light around how i responded in this situation, i was just trying to help fellow enthusiasts by informing of a new event that may happen. Its not my event.
Incorrect assumptions and comments were made that were totally untrue and ill informed, there is no way the roads will be closed and timing permitted without it being done correctly and with cover in place. i got frustrated, i got over it.
My only regret is being dragged into so much wasted time on this thread.


if the event happens (no reason why it wont), and if i go, then by all means come say hi should you take part, it could be great fun, the mountain road itself is worth the trip in a nice car :-)

The guys at Supercar Drivers Club are now interested, i gave the details to Adam last night, hopefully this will help kickstart it off.
bye for now.

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Haha. I got it from the horses mouth lol. Trevor needs to update his website people:-)

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i think this is part of the original idea that Straightliners are/were involved in, they are also promoting an April event in the IOM but a little earlier in the month. There was talk of a closed road timed sprint and the jurby trackdays, plus a top speed timed run event, so it looks like its a combination within these 2 now.

https://www.facebook.com/StraightlinersNewsChannel...


edit to add, dont forget you can go to the IOM at any time on the ferry and take advantage of no speed limits on the mountain TT course sections! Thats what we are probably doing at some point.

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sparta6 said:

In the meantime I've stumbled upon this which looks rather good.
https://supercarshootout.co.uk/

Sadly spaces now gone so have registered for 2019

out of interest, did you read their fairly onerous terms and conditions of entry? (ie having to display their stickers at all times on your car, not being allowed any other advertising, agreement to filming and publicity, agreement not to partake in any other "similar" events etc)?
Having seen the supercar pricing that looks very much an attempt to jump on the supercar bandwagon at £2.5k per car given that you can get your own ferry across at the same time and same crossings and find accomodation for less than £800 all in per couple.
The closed road aspect is appealing however, but having driven the IOM TT course lots of times you can head out early morning and find it traffic free and fun, and its usually not that busy anyway.

interesting tho that these have appeared now!

Edited by 200Plus Club on Thursday 15th February 10:54

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sparta6 said:

Yes it was a toss up between the ModBall and this TT one for 2019. Both similar terms and price point but fancied the TT one as closed to the public. Modball gets very busy and the hangovers can be epic

The TT course in one direction and closed to public will be cool, I've ridden it on mad Sunday and it's too lairy at times. I've also driven it late evening in summer at speed in a car with no traffic about and it was fabulous so a gaggle of super cars doing it will be fun

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wormus said:

You maybe able to book the circuit at Jurby to have your own track day but don’t confuse the TT circuit as a race track. It’s a 2 way public road and there will be traffic most of the time unless you go very early in the morning. Fog, rain and high winds are also an issue around this time of year. I spent all of yesterday in the airport trying to get off the island after all flights were cancelled. Ferry is even worse during winter.

July to Sept are the best time to go, in between the bike racing.

Edited by wormus on Thursday 15th February 17:04

They are closing the road for one of these events, let's hope the April weather is kind.

Well aware it's a normal two way road normally tho as are most people.

I've been to The Sloc hill climb and been unable to see cars with fog tho as you say! :-)

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no, thats another event, so we are now upto 3 lol! Thats the most expensive yet at nearly £4k per car! ouch!

i started the original thread about the "Race the Rock" event as its now called being run by straightliners, which was to be a closed road sprint, trackday and top speed runs. this has now evolved into an event in early April.
the 2nd event appears to be end of April at £2.5k! which is just a glorified tour but with the advantage of 1 way closed traffic use of the 7 mile mountain section of the course, and then the 3rd event you linked in June is also new!

crazy times. someone obviously decided there was money to be had saving super car owners the hassle of booking a ferry and hotel themselves lol

Edited by 200Plus Club on Friday 16th February 09:40