I know this will start a war but

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http://www.tomhartleyjnr.com/used/2017/mclaren/720...

A well specced 181 mile 2017 720S for £50k under list available right now is either a superb bargain and a reason to never ever pay the full price for a prancing horse or else....not so good news for McLaren owners.

Personally I'd go with the former. Tempted.

[MingtheMerciless]

Why not?

[MingtheMerciless]

Tom Hartley senior has another launch model for £220k so £30k under list?

I've got over the bite your arm off and slink away to avoid waking it if you woke up next to it and it was lying on your arm looks from the front and actually quite like them now.

Is it the case that everyone wants the LT version of the 650 and is waiting for the LT version of the 720S? If so McLaren can't be endearing themselves to loyal customers.

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Not surprised - I also thought it was well specced and the whole save one tenth of f*ck all on the car's weight by spending £25k on so called carbon fibre (as opposed to eating a few less pies yourself) made no sense to me. Well wear to whoever bought that.

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RamboLambo said:

I'm on my 3rd McLaren now and I love them and yes its been a more expensive ownership experience than Ferrari but also so much more rewarding and exclusive.
Would I buy a Ferrari from the current range - No not a cat in hells chance. The 488 spider is boring and I don't qualify for a pista or 812 superfast

While I wouldn't use the word "boring" to describe the 488 Spider, it's not sufficiently "better" than a 458 Spider (for me) to justify getting into a car that will depreciate a lot (even if not as much as a McLaren maybe). And I don't qualify for the special handshake brigade who get to buy a Pista either. I know it's not about depreciation and live the moment and all that so the real differential here is "better". Or not better enough (unless you are buying it for a lot of track work) if I might be excused a little language butchery by the grammar police. And this might be just prejudice and ignorance, but it's my money so I can justify not spending it in whatever prejudiced way I want - the various almost indistinguishable (to me) McLaren variants* are all not "better" enough either for my modest needs and they don't sound great to me.

So where does that leave a person looking for a change? Well where I live there are no Lambo dealers available without a ferry ride so the obvious Performante isn't actually an obvious choice. I'm actually thinking of flogging my 458 at a price which equals to a not principal loss anyway, having regard to how infrequently I drive it and throwing a chunk of change at one of those Supercar clubs and disciplining myself enough to plan trips with them.

• Edit - the 720S is not indistinguishable but I waver between liking its bold and innovative looks and seeing a Guppy whose eyes have been gouged out with a spoon.

Edited by MingtheMerciless on Monday 30th July 13:15