£200K to spend......suggestions on a post card?

£200K to spend......suggestions on a post card?

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m33ufo

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I've recently sold both my 911's with the intention of getting into a 991.1 GT3 RS, and this will more than likely be my next car. However, given that the market for this model currently looks flat, and prices are falling, I'm trying my hardest to hold back just a little until I spot a degree of stability. This of course is much easier said than done when one has the cash available and there are so many shiny cars calling to me!

So, by way of distraction, with a firm budget of £200K what would you buy??


m33ufo

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Bispal said:
Depends...

What do you want the car for? Road, track, euro trips with luggage space & comfort, 2 seats or 4 etc.
Do you just want 1 car or 2/3/4?
Are you bothered about depreciation and running costs?
Do you like posing / static revving?
Are you looking for a fun driving car or something that looks good?

So many variables that need answering.

Lets assume its one car. With a lot of hard negotiating on price a 675LT would do it for me.
Sunny weekends with occasional track-day use.
2 seats.
1 car.
Depreciation is definitely a factor - although cars mostly lose money.
Definitely no static revving and minimal posing smile

675LT would be a great choice. Not sure my skills of negotiation are on a level to bag one within my budget - although moving forwards?

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justin220 said:
720S for me

There was one advertised last week within your budget.
I emailed about it a day or so too late! It was tempting.

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johnnyreggae said:
Is this the latest which cars aren't depreciating thread ?

That said me personally 570 - I know you've had McLaren before but in your current position maybe a year old so that there's a chance of minimising depreciation if sold on soon after - your budget plus a little might even get you into a 720
I'm sure we'd all like an appreciating or non-depreciating car but not the purpose of the tread.

That being said, I do like the 570 Spider, was put off a little by the quantity for sale and the way they have depreciated so quickly - sorry, I used the "D" word!

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julian64 said:
In my personal humble opinion its unlikely there is one car worth 200K. Two many different types of car experiences. If I had 200K to spend on enjoying driving it wouldn't be on a single car.

My odd ball advice would be to spread it around three or four 60K cars which would give you 9/10th of the experience of a 200K car but also the diversity of cars you could choose would make for a much better overall experience.

You just can't put all that in a single car no matter how expensive it is.
Been there and my preference is to go for a single car - I don't get the time to properly use even 1! Also less hassle in terms of multiple insurance, road tax, maintenance and warranty costs etc.


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m33ufo

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MDL111 said:
some ideas in no particular order

430 Scuderia
2.5 ST or 2.8 RSR period correct(ish) replica that can be entered in some historic events
997.2 RS or 996 RS
Viper ACR
355 Challenge with road registration
F12 for a more relaxed long distance car experience

2 car stable - 550 Maranello and 991 or 997 GT3
997.2 GT3 RS was always top of my list....maybe after I get the 991 out of my system.

996 RS perhaps too similar to my 996.2 GT3 (recently sold). Loved the car but an absolute pain getting into my garage.

So far not owned a Ferrari. 430 Scud very appealing although prices seem to be spread over a very wide range. Noticed one in the classifieds recently at £115-120K (now sold to Amari), and I couldn't really differentiate it from the £160/180K cars.

m33ufo

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WhiskyDisco said:
The car you could have bought at Silverstone last weekend. 2005 GT40. Sold for (£): 196,875

http://www.silverstoneauctions.com/ford-gt



First registered in June 2006. One private owner from new. 5,081 dry miles
5.4-litre all aluminium, dry-sumped V8. 550bhp. 6-speed manual gearbox
Outstanding and very comprehensive history file detailing every invoice from new
Professionally maintained by Roush from new. Serviced May 2018. Fresh MoT
Cherished registration X1 FGT (Ford GT) is included in the Sale
The best Ford GT available with known provenance, history from new, and an extremely sensible guide
What a great way to spend £200K. Hadn't realised that they were close to my budget - I'd have to re-jig the garage doors to get it in though smile

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RamboLambo said:
My £200k would go on a 430 Scuderia , still regret selling mine at a lot less money. Still the best gearbox I've experienced in this type of car, even better than 458 Speciale, Porsche PDK etc...

Not driven one but I'm imagining the gearbox may be something like that on the M3 CSL? Still one of my favourite cars.

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Targarama said:
Many for sale at +VAT though. I thought the same... So not much depreciation. Yet.
There are currently six 570 Spider models in the PH classifieds between 153 and 160. I didn't notice any of these being advertised + vat?

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BlueIn2Red said:
458. Get in now before the values sky rocket!

(Mostly joking on the second part.)
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The Surveyor said:
Buy a 991.1 GT3 RS if that's the car you really want. The market is so unstable at the moment what ever you buy will carry depreciation risk on top of the dealers margin, so either buy the GT3 RS, or only spend half of your wedge and minimise your loss.

Stick £100k in a decent account and buy a Vantage V12s, they look pretty stable given the luke-warm reception of the new Vantage. The V12s is a closet hot-rod and is still effortlessly beautiful :- https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...
Sticking to the Aston theme....what are your thoughts on a GT8?

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The Surveyor said:
I had a V8 Vantage in the past and it was disappointing.....
Snap! 2 weeks of euphoria followed by 2 weeks of complete disappointment and then sold it!

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RamboLambo said:
Todd Bonzalez said:
I'd say Performante or 720 for me smile
Performantes are £240k+ so 20% budget creep there
One up at £220k in AT a week ago in a private sale - now gone.

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Stuart1961 said:
GT3RS, 720S, Performante or AMG GTR are all awesome and you won't go wrong with any of them

GT3 RS = probably best all rounder, albeit not the fastest

720S = scalpel and fastest

Performante = Almost as quick in the wet as in the dry

AMG GTR = sledgehammer, possibly the most smiles per £ and best sounding, albeit close run with the Performante

Just depends what you prefer !
720S and Performante under normal circumstances a tad over my budget, but all 4 cars are on my long shortlist together with a 488. So regular thumbing through the classifieds now required to find a bargain biggrin

430 Scud also very appealing but I'm edging towards newer cars - up to a few years old.


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s2000db said:
The 488 is probably the safest bet for a £200k car, but make sure you give it a good test drive, as it’s awfully civilised at normal speeds....
In all likelihood I'll be back in another 911 but it's good to window shop. Might take a tour of a few dealers next week.

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cgt2 said:
I'm sure you enquired about one of my 550's when I had it for sale years ago. You would have had a lot of change from £200k then, I think I was asking about £50k!!!

Seriously if you haven't had a Ferrari yet then a Scud is a great choice. But very close in price to a 458 which you will probably use for more long distance touring and is almost as visceral in most ways.
For some reason 458's do very little for me whilst the rawness of the Scud does. Sometimes there are just too many choices smile

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Stuart1961 said:
Another is the AMG GTR Clubsport.

Details being released in September with deliveries due around March 2019.

Rumoured to only be an allocation of 40 cars for the UK market and all apparently pre sold.
I guess that means I have absolutely no chance of getting one smile

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Bispal said:
Furlonger and Romans both have (or had) LT's at around £235k and I was offered one for under £230k. The old press car was offered to the trade at even less. It wont be long (months) before you will be able to get an LT for around £200k. Spiders are even in the £260's now so I can't see trade offering over £250k if they are being sold at under £230k unless they are very high spec roof scoop cars. Since when does anyone believe what a car dealer tells them they are paying for a car anyway!

So for a little over £200k an LT would still be my choice.....
If I can hold out for a few months it'll be very interesting to see where these cars are.

An LT or a Performante for £200K would be nice biggrin

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RamboLambo said:
m33ufo said:
If I can hold out for a few months it'll be very interesting to see where these cars are.

An LT or a Performante for £200K would be nice biggrin
Don't bank on it. Not even high mileage low spec cars will hit that low this year unless the market has a complete melt down.

I have a buy back value on my Performante coupe for when I change it into a spyder and its considerably more than that.

Pure fantasy and wishful thinking
I'm definitely not banking on it. Whatever anyone thinks is pure speculation - for me more than most as I haven't seriously been considering these cars for more than a week or so.

However, I'm a bit more knowledgeable on all things Porsche, having previously owned 19 examples. I can confirm that as far as the 991.1 RS is concerned, prices have fallen around £30K in the past few months and they still aren't selling - that's quite a big jump in he market for these cars. The smaller number of gen2 cars initially hit the market at £300K or a bit more. They are now £250k retail and again (generally), don't seem to be selling.

Cars being advertised at £250, 260 or 300K means absolutely nothing if they aren't selling at that price or indeed aren't selling at all.




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MDL111 said:
I know this did not contribute much to the discussion, but thought it was more fun than he said/she said re LT values
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