Does anyone remember / know about this engine.......

Does anyone remember / know about this engine.......

Author
Discussion

TVR_Coley

Original Poster:

9 posts

62 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
quotequote all
Many moons ago on BBC Tomorrows World a rotary style engine was featured that was based on two rings, one of cylinders and one of pistons.

The rings were mounted on a central shaft and offset by I think 21 degrees. This had the resultant effect that when rotated the pistons effectively moved up an down in the cylinders but did not actual change direction due to the offset angle of the two hoops. i.e. the pistons were always moving in the same direction. Below is a very crude drawing to try an illustrate what I an describing.



I am trying to find out some detail of this engine, but as with many things that were on Tomorrows World it appears to have vanished.

Do my ramblings mean anything to anyone and if so do you know any more detail of this engine design?

TVR_Coley

Original Poster:

9 posts

62 months

Sunday 5th July 2020
quotequote all
Thank you, looks similar, but I believe that this design still requires the piston to change direction. I am sure that variant I recall from 40 odd years ago, relied on the 'meshing' angle between the piston ring and the cylinder ring, that the pistons did not physically change direction. they moved in and out due to the angle around which the ring rotated. I think I might have to try and mock something up to see if I am remembering correctly or if I am barking up the wrong tree.

TVR_Coley

Original Poster:

9 posts

62 months

Monday 6th July 2020
quotequote all
Due to the angle between the cylinders and pistons the rings rotate and as a result they move together and apart which provides the in and out movement of the piston. The piston does not stop and change direction at the end of each stroke it is rotating with the ring and is in effect always travelling in the same direction.

TVR_Coley

Original Poster:

9 posts

62 months

Monday 6th July 2020
quotequote all
This is in part why I am keen to try and dig up the detail to refresh my memory on how it was set up.

The closest analogy I can illustrate is If you think about two cogs wheel meshing together, where the teeth are the pistons and the gaps are the cylinders.

In the animation below the pistons (teeth) move in and out of the cylinders (gaps) but the teeth do not change direction to do this, it is the rotation that allows them to move in and out.



In the engine design I recall this is how it worked but the cogs were rotating around the same axis in a V of I think 21 degrees. So at the bottom of the V the piston was fully in the cylinder (at the top of the piston stroke) and the the top of the V where the rings were farthest apart the piston was at the bottom of the stroke.

TVR_Coley

Original Poster:

9 posts

62 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
quotequote all
Thank you.
The one on Tomorrows World had a lot of cylinders 16+ from recollection and yes it revved happily to over 20,000 RPM.
The rumour I recall was that it was so efficient the patent was purchased by a petroleum company and then hidden away!
Just wish I could find out more about it, I contacted the BBC but they cannot provide me with any more detail :-(