ecotek filters
Discussion
i didnt buy it yet... but look at their faq:
(Q) Why wasn't his device fitted to my car by the manufacturers at the factory?
(A) There are a number of reasons for this:
1. Ecotek Technologies Plc. owns the exclusive design rights to the device.
2. The device has to be individually tuned to each car. This is potentially complicated and expensive if incorporated into the assembly process.
3. Induction turbulence is a relatively recent development in mainstream combustion technology and whilst off-throttle turbulence is now being incorporated in performance engines (Ford and Mercedes for example) it is not commonplace and not otherwise available as a retro-fit option.
4. Manufacturers have chosen to tackle performance, emission and economy issues through management systems and chemical catalysts. In the long run these can theoretically improve the combustion process considerably more than the Ecotek device.
5. The current trend is to attempt to achieve the best balance between economy, emissions and performance through ECU mapping which theoretically can provide infinitely variable combinations. In order to qualify for the lowest tax band many manufacturers map the ECU to ensure the best emissions scenario. As a result the default setting on many modern cars leaves them feeling sluggish and flat.
6. In the event the major market of the Ecotek CB-26P is for retrofit to existing cars; for owners of MoT age cars who may wish to re-vitalise performance at reasonable cost without sacrificing economy or emissions.
ok that's what they say... and heres what the car magazines say:
www.ecotekplc.com/reviews_2.htm -car mechanics here!
www.ecotekplc.com/reviews_3.htm -GreenFleet magazine!
there's more reviews there
and i have one reason of my own
the ecotek isn't fitted by default because of the awful noise it makes (even with the piper silencer thingy installed)
(Q) Why wasn't his device fitted to my car by the manufacturers at the factory?
(A) There are a number of reasons for this:
1. Ecotek Technologies Plc. owns the exclusive design rights to the device.
2. The device has to be individually tuned to each car. This is potentially complicated and expensive if incorporated into the assembly process.
3. Induction turbulence is a relatively recent development in mainstream combustion technology and whilst off-throttle turbulence is now being incorporated in performance engines (Ford and Mercedes for example) it is not commonplace and not otherwise available as a retro-fit option.
4. Manufacturers have chosen to tackle performance, emission and economy issues through management systems and chemical catalysts. In the long run these can theoretically improve the combustion process considerably more than the Ecotek device.
5. The current trend is to attempt to achieve the best balance between economy, emissions and performance through ECU mapping which theoretically can provide infinitely variable combinations. In order to qualify for the lowest tax band many manufacturers map the ECU to ensure the best emissions scenario. As a result the default setting on many modern cars leaves them feeling sluggish and flat.
6. In the event the major market of the Ecotek CB-26P is for retrofit to existing cars; for owners of MoT age cars who may wish to re-vitalise performance at reasonable cost without sacrificing economy or emissions.
ok that's what they say... and heres what the car magazines say:
www.ecotekplc.com/reviews_2.htm -car mechanics here!
www.ecotekplc.com/reviews_3.htm -GreenFleet magazine!
there's more reviews there
and i have one reason of my own
the ecotek isn't fitted by default because of the awful noise it makes (even with the piper silencer thingy installed)
well ecotec probably doesnt work on newer cars, but it does on mine... yep, you heard it correctly i just bought one (my car is 10y old).
and i really dont know am i going to keep it:
advantages:
-smoother & faster engine
disadvantages:
-loud noise (with pipercross)
the engine is gooddamn smooth and i love it! other advantages are probably less emmision (as reviewed)... and i feel like i just dumped a dead body from my trunk
but i cannot stand the noise. its not a pretty one... like a loud tv static noise. and some of you probably know that clio 1995 has a very weak sound isolation.
i have to say ill probably give it back (they will give me a free replacement hose, if i return the ecotek).
but i will definately miss the improvement.
so i guess the ecotek is probably good for older FI cars, with good sound isolation. most probably the engines with larger displacement will profit much more (even though my 1.2 fells 10hp stronger)
and i really dont know am i going to keep it:
advantages:
-smoother & faster engine
disadvantages:
-loud noise (with pipercross)
the engine is gooddamn smooth and i love it! other advantages are probably less emmision (as reviewed)... and i feel like i just dumped a dead body from my trunk
but i cannot stand the noise. its not a pretty one... like a loud tv static noise. and some of you probably know that clio 1995 has a very weak sound isolation.
i have to say ill probably give it back (they will give me a free replacement hose, if i return the ecotek).
but i will definately miss the improvement.
so i guess the ecotek is probably good for older FI cars, with good sound isolation. most probably the engines with larger displacement will profit much more (even though my 1.2 fells 10hp stronger)
well i was convinced that a k&n filter will give me more power but i didnt feel any difference (though the filter is still in, of course!). but with ecotek i do. the difference is, believe me its HUGE, i dont know how else to convince you guys...
and as i said, i am returning it because of the ugly noise it makes, and believe me its UGLY.
and as i said, i am returning it because of the ugly noise it makes, and believe me its UGLY.
well i said the mpg is probably better (as reviewed) but i wouldn't know... i just picked it up this morning and installed, i did just like 100 miles to test it.
well it probably isn't 10hp but theres a definite improvement.
and it is: imagine a LOUD TV STATIC everytime you put your foot down, and i mean VERY LOUD! even if it was 100hp, i would take it out.
what do you mean by "have you optimized the engine"? how much would that cost me?
well it probably isn't 10hp but theres a definite improvement.
and it is: imagine a LOUD TV STATIC everytime you put your foot down, and i mean VERY LOUD! even if it was 100hp, i would take it out.
what do you mean by "have you optimized the engine"? how much would that cost me?
please believe me that i have nothing to do with ecotek... well visit my page... http://avance70.tripod.com/ youll see that i am a regular student, enjoy starcraft and make music... no affiliation with ecotek whatsoever!
and because it can be turned on and off easily, i am able to feel the difference, unbiased!
and isnt it logical that someone made up a device that when fitted to a 15 year old engine desingns, actually makes it go better?
and because it can be turned on and off easily, i am able to feel the difference, unbiased!
and isnt it logical that someone made up a device that when fitted to a 15 year old engine desingns, actually makes it go better?
the car, it has been regulary serviced by previous owner, and i was even better to it, three years, three complete service checks... all sparks, fluids, oil filter, petrol filter and exhaust are practically new, also recently replaced are the alternator, servo pump, servo bar, the battery... the car NEVER broke down, if you dont count one or two lights
i dunno guys, i just proved you the car runs better...
if you dont beleive me, some of your neighbors probably have it, so go on and test it with and without the ecotek
i dunno guys, i just proved you the car runs better...
if you dont beleive me, some of your neighbors probably have it, so go on and test it with and without the ecotek
avance70 said:
i just went out (i know its 3am) to take my car for a spin, and after a few minutes i turned the ecotec off (it takes 10 seconds) and it felt like i picked up two hitchhikers!
and i repeated it this day, all day long. it works, i dont know how else can i make you believe?
>> Edited by avance70 on Tuesday 28th June 20:11
uh i dont really know the translation for those words but ill do my best:
servo pump - thats the pump that pumps the servo oil (atf) to the servo bar (greases it)
servo bar - well thats the... bar that coordinates movement of your front wheels with steering
please tell me whats their "real" english name
servo pump - thats the pump that pumps the servo oil (atf) to the servo bar (greases it)
servo bar - well thats the... bar that coordinates movement of your front wheels with steering
please tell me whats their "real" english name
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