Twin turboing a 3.5 V8 sd1

Twin turboing a 3.5 V8 sd1

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All Terrain

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Saturday 28th June 2003
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simply is it possible? If so what needs to be done?
Eg compression ratios new pistons yadda yadda yadda.

would the Garrett turbo from a landy 300tdi work? (obviously x2)

Just a nutty notion of mine!

PS How hard is it to rebuild a 3.5? I may be able to get one for 150 or under, but I'm wondering if its worth it, because an old v8 can be mullered.

>>> Edited by All Terrain on Saturday 28th June 17:07

All Terrain

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Sunday 29th June 2003
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Well I May Be able to get this one quite cheap. It Also needs to be SD1 because of insrance or somthing. Not sure what the compression is, but its probably going to need new pistons anyhow, so I can make it what I want. The problem of detonation from the charger.... If I am running turbos, and fit decent intercoolers, would that be sufficient to cool the charge enough from when it gets compressed?

Looked a bit of a nadger basher to me. Oh well Should prove intresting when in. (mpg is pretty poor tho!)

All Terrain

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Sunday 29th June 2003
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I may well be. Do you use msn messenger perchance? I don't mind peple knowing my address, so if you want to add me feel free. chrishold@hotmail.com .

I dont particularly want to use water. And Its a carbed engine from what I gather. I'm doing this as a sort of project, which will help woth my desired Uni choice of Motorsport engineering. I think the LR 300tdi turbo is a G3. I only really understand TDi's, so any help on the carbed petrol front is MASIVELY appreciated.
Many thanks!
AT

>> Edited by All Terrain on Sunday 29th June 21:25

All Terrain

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Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Yer I was Thinking about the difficulties of turboing a carb. Maybe injection is the way to go. I want to stay away from ecus etc though!

All Terrain

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Tuesday 1st July 2003
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Yes they are but they are simple like me.
If the engine is carbed how do I set about getting it to be injection? Is it somthing like steal a head from a later engine and plonk it on? This is getting closer to a nogo every minute.

All Terrain

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Tuesday 1st July 2003
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what about non ecu injection? My 300tdi has no pooters, yet is an injection engine.

All Terrain

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Tuesday 1st July 2003
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well its going to come down to cost in the end. I think turboing onto a carb will be "the best" option. I dont think mpg is going to be an issue because no one will insure me on the damn thing.

All Terrain

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Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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Cool. Well all I have to do now is find me an A frame, some tools and pull the old engine out and sell it. once thats done I can set about buying this engine and playing with it so to speak. Boosted.... those manifolds you talk of, are they to fit the 3500 engine? If so how much do you want for them? (or are they lying around as in free C'mon you know you want to donate them!! )

Edited to fix broken smilies

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www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Show/2505/inject.html

Talks about Lucas injection. coould this be the way??

All Terrain

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Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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cjrv8 said:
have a look at www.rover-v8.co.uk look in the forum and go search for turboing as there was someone about a year ago who strapped an MG metro turbo unit onto a 3.5, re-needled the SU's... he only gained 10-30bhp but got an extra 150lbft ish or torque


unfortunately the site is permanently down!

Im green in the form of engines, so I will have to go soley on the advice of you guys. I was originally going to leave it as a normal V8..... But thats just boring. So far from what I gather the hollies and a blow through system seems best. I havent a clue what turbo to use. No point sticking a HOOOOOGE one on when im limited to boost pressure. I think the way im going to do this is view each side as a 1.75 4pot and work it that way.

Im Very thankful of the help and ideas thats been given. If I ever get this notion off the groud I'll trailer it to the next P'Fest.

Thanks again
AT

All Terrain

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Wednesday 2nd July 2003
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WOW nice site. I could fit one of those beasties in lol. Tho I think they are a little bit more expensive hehe. Theres not much point in ringing you yet, as I havent gotten an engine yet. I put a post up to see if it was possible. Thanks for the offer tho. IF all else fails Itll just be a N/A V8. Mmm drool 5.7litres


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Err what do you do with the engine your remove from customer vehicles? Are any of those Rover V8s? (I'm in brown nose/blag mode here) If you have some older kit thats clogging up works (makin assumptions here) perhaps I could relieve you of it?
(God loves a tryer )

>> Edited by All Terrain on Wednesday 2nd July 19:05

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Friday 4th July 2003
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Here's a link to the engine thats currently in my motor. AS you can see I like to keep my kit in good order. Maybe If I can get someone to buy it, I can get the show on the road so to speak.

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=91&t=46713

All Terrain

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Friday 4th July 2003
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Ok how much would you want for the manifolds, and how much do you think it would be for postage? I hope youn didnt think I was being pushy. Many thanks!
Chris

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All Terrain

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Monday 7th July 2003
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All Terrain said:
What do you guys think of this? http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2421645177&category=10414


Whats the Max you wold bid on that little lot?