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PotentiallyaHorse said:
Beefmeister said:
Well they're the exact same lights from the new Vantage, so they're very Aston Martin
But they're not going to be on the finished car, this is a very early engineering prototype. And I believe it's launching with V8, then V12 and Hybrid to come.
Sorry, I'd meant the rear lightsBut they're not going to be on the finished car, this is a very early engineering prototype. And I believe it's launching with V8, then V12 and Hybrid to come.
Beefmeister said:
IT’S A SODDING DISGUISED PROTOTYPE!!!! Amazing how you can judge it based on images where pretty much every panel is covered, it has different lights front and rear and the front bumper is made from papier-mâché just to confuse people.
How about people wait until they see the actual DBX before commenting on the looks...
Tim,How about people wait until they see the actual DBX before commenting on the looks...
It's pointless trying to defend it. Go have a look at the other thread, it's the reason I started this one hoping for better from AML enthusiasts.
The camo car is not a bad representation but the finished article IMHO is fantastic.
As far as depreciation is concerned the majority of people who spend £150k plus on an SUV really couldn't give a st.
Nick
Beefmeister said:
Throttle Body said:
The pictures I have seen of the interior of the DBX show it as having only two rear seats. Is that what is expected to go into production? If so, that would be limiting in its practicality.
As with all these SUVs there will likely be options for two or three rear seats. They’ll have learned their lesson after the Rapide. I have three kids, 6,7 & 10. IMHO with the exception of the Disco 4 I would not want to travel very far in any of the current SUV's with all three in the back. How many can realistically take three adults in the rear for any reasonable distance?
Then we get to luggage space. Luggage for five for two weeks away and perhaps a buggy, again Disco 4 (I haven't looked at Disco 5 as they are so revolting) seems the only option. Possibly XC90.
Not convinced these cars are built with "practicality" in mind.
Of course this only really affects people who regularly need to accommodate five. If you have two kids and are thinking of a third, DON'T DO IT
V12Manual said:
I have the Cayenne S E-Hydrid as my daily and it has masses of room in the back for three adults as well as a large boot. I'd be tempted to switch early next year if the DBX comes in at a reasonable price but I fear it will be above EUR 150-170k...(which is a shame as a fully sorted Cayenne E-Hybrid like mine was around EUR 120k).
Must take a look. Never really considered Cayenne since launch as they were sooooooooo ugly. Current model looks are fine. A tad more expensive than my Disco though!!!!Beefmeister said:
The SUV/Estate problem is actually that 90% of big SUV drivers don’t need the space at all, it’s all about status. So until we stop watching dross like Made in Chelsea which idolises brain dead orange wealthy people it’s never going to change...
I need the space and I'm not orange V8V Pete said:
But isn't a large estate car actually more space efficient than an SUV?
If my wife wasn't a car destroyer (slow stepwise death of interior & exterior finish rather than catastrophic car terminator) I would have thought our family car would be an RS6 or similar rather than a Mondeo estate. Just don't see the point in the extra weight and bulk of the SUV in comparison. Maybe I'm wrong but but I can't really see how.
Might work for some but luggage for five for two weeks in the sunshine is a fair amount and I suspect most "estates" may struggle. Add to that our single track lane and it's uphill both ways out of the village and the Disco becomes quite handy when it occasionally snows. I also enjoy the raised driving position.If my wife wasn't a car destroyer (slow stepwise death of interior & exterior finish rather than catastrophic car terminator) I would have thought our family car would be an RS6 or similar rather than a Mondeo estate. Just don't see the point in the extra weight and bulk of the SUV in comparison. Maybe I'm wrong but but I can't really see how.
I believe my purchase is justified. If I lived in central London it would not be.
RobDown said:
Ok, I’ll bite
I live in London. I have a Disco. I like/need it for the following reasons
1. The high driving position. Anyone who has driven around the suburbs of London with its double-parked streets will know the huge advantage being able to see over the parked cars brings. Pulling out from a T-junction with double parked cars is an absolute lottery without this height
2. Space. It’s got more than an estate car. Indeed if I stow all the seats it become a mini-Van (space is a three-dimensional thing you see, so the height also matters not just the length of the car).
3. I need that space because I have failed to follow Steve’s advice and foolishly kept all 3 children
4. I need 4 wheel drive as my son plays rugby. In fact there are a lot of rugby clubs in London and they all typically share one feature - mud-based parking
5. I have an Aston Martin for other times. I don’t “need” a fast estate, my wife’s words not mine (I might “ want one” but wife doesn’t like the man-maths)
6. I’m not orange
I hope the DBX does well. But I suspect it’s going to be more a 4 seater type thing like the RRS sport so not much use to me at present. But if readers could buy lots of them so that there’s a used supply in 3-4 years that would be great. Thank you
I live in London. I have a Disco. I like/need it for the following reasons
1. The high driving position. Anyone who has driven around the suburbs of London with its double-parked streets will know the huge advantage being able to see over the parked cars brings. Pulling out from a T-junction with double parked cars is an absolute lottery without this height
2. Space. It’s got more than an estate car. Indeed if I stow all the seats it become a mini-Van (space is a three-dimensional thing you see, so the height also matters not just the length of the car).
3. I need that space because I have failed to follow Steve’s advice and foolishly kept all 3 children
4. I need 4 wheel drive as my son plays rugby. In fact there are a lot of rugby clubs in London and they all typically share one feature - mud-based parking
5. I have an Aston Martin for other times. I don’t “need” a fast estate, my wife’s words not mine (I might “ want one” but wife doesn’t like the man-maths)
6. I’m not orange
I hope the DBX does well. But I suspect it’s going to be more a 4 seater type thing like the RRS sport so not much use to me at present. But if readers could buy lots of them so that there’s a used supply in 3-4 years that would be great. Thank you
Mr.Tremlini said:
Is the SUV/4x4 primarily a fashion statement these days?
Almost certainly, yes.That said I adore my Disco 4 for what it is, an amazing "tool" for lugging three kids and all the paraphernalia down to Cornwall and back at holiday times. Disco 5 is not my cup of tea so D4 will stay until LR will no longer warrant it.
I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
Jon39 said:
AMVSVNick said:
I also love the fact that when on motorways being sat higher up gives me the ability to see what the "holiday idiots" are up to in plenty of time.
How will you see over the vehicle ahead, when every car becomes a tall SUV?
May not be too long.
I love the Audi Q Russian doll SUV range. Q5 drivers used to be 'top dogs' and could look down on Q1 and Q3 drivers, but now I think they have to look up to Q7, Q8 and Q9 drivers, unless they buy again. Very clever marketing.
I suspect most owners jet off to far flung exotic places rather than slum it in Cornwall
Disco 4 is nearly as low as whale st in the LR pecking order so I'm used to looking up
RobDown said:
The analysts were taken to see St Athan and the DBX this week.
Bloomberg write up is quite gushing (unusual for them with AML) saying that the DBX looks much better without the Camo and “with stylish looks that we predict should go a long way to convincing skeptical investors that the company is on track to double sales”
It's 18 months since I went to the preview. I loved it then and can't wait to see the finished article.Bloomberg write up is quite gushing (unusual for them with AML) saying that the DBX looks much better without the Camo and “with stylish looks that we predict should go a long way to convincing skeptical investors that the company is on track to double sales”
The Camo cars have not really reflected what I saw especially around the rear end.
soofsayer said:
Thats a good point I hadn’t considered. When we went for an XC90 the primary aim was being able to fit 3 child seats across the rear seats (we only have 2 kids but her indoors insisted that we ‘needed’ the option). Its a surprise how many vehicles cant achieve this which can be a dealbreaker if circumstances require.
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