E61 V8 Bearding

E61 V8 Bearding

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ATM

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Monday 27th July 2015
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I've just bought one of these and thought it would be good for owners, almost owners and previous owners to have somewhere to get Bearding. Pic of mine



Edited by ATM on Monday 27th July 13:51


Edited by ATM on Saturday 18th August 17:43

ATM

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hornetrider said:
I did a search honest....

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I like it. Sure they're a few niggles but that's always going to be the case buying private for reasonable money. I'm already thinking of non-rft as I am a serial hater of rft. I did check the pressures on mine yesterday and found that 3 were on around 20 - 25 psi. I only managed to do 3 for 20p and refused to put a 50p in the machine. Then this morning on my way to the gym I got a flat tyre warning come up. I've got my own pump somewhere so I'll need to do them again and reset the computer.

Anyway on to today's niggle. As above - now moved to here -

So this is what is now starting to niggle 5 days in. It feels like there is some throttle pedal lag. In normal drive [not tested sport] at lower revs if you blip the throttle pedal quickly then the engine doesn't respond. It is as if the fly by wire - I hope it is fly by wire or I'll look like a plum - waits for a second to see what you do next with the throttle. Has anyone else noticed this or is mine goosed?


ATM

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ATM said:
hornetrider said:
I did a search honest....
There isn't much banter in the above thread. Not since 2013 anyway. All seems to be related to mpg or wood. I managed to do about 110 miles on Saturday for £22 which I am happy with. Filled up before and after. Surely the point of buying a big v8 is not to even think about mpg. Mind you I was tempted by an M5 touring but their running costs are just frightening. I only paid 8 thousand for my car.

ATM

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jboy72 said:
hornetrider said:
That's the problem isn't it hehe

Mind you deep down I am mightily tempted by the E66 750i posted the other day for the princely sum of 5k.
Yes, it is a bit. A cheaper v8 is also much more tempting for me and I am considering swapping my Alfa for an e39 540i!
I was looking for a nice E39 540i Touring but they were going for like 4 grand and I thought for the extra money I'd prefer an E61.

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hornetrider said:
ATM said:
I was looking for a nice E39 540i Touring but they were going for like 4 grand and I thought for the extra money I'd prefer an E61.
The problem with the E39 V8 is the steering is a recirculating ball instead of the conventional rack found on the E61. It makes a real difference to the driving experience, I drove one and it felt really vague.

While I mention it, it also had a manual box which felt like stirring porridge. In that respect, those two primary controls on the 61 are light years ahead of the 39.
I believe the E39 boys use an E60 shifter on their manuals as an upgrade.

ATM

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jboy72 said:
hornetrider said:
The problem with the E39 V8 is the steering is a recirculating ball instead of the conventional rack found on the E61. It makes a real difference to the driving experience, I drove one and it felt really vague.

While I mention it, it also had a manual box which felt like stirring porridge. In that respect, those two primary controls on the 61 are light years ahead of the 39.
I owned an e39 530i and recall that the general wisdom at the time was that the power hike in the 540i was not worth suffering the vague steering. Having said that, the 540i did have plenty of fans. I have never driven an e39 540i though, I just like the look of it on paper. Maybe I should go back to an e39 530i sport - it was a pretty good drivers car it must be said.

On another note, I drove a manual 523i and 525i (both e39s) and the box felt ok to me - admittedly not as good as the manual box in the e60 525d I had a go in.
I've got a 528i banger which I really like - see pic above. I got it for £600 - thread here - http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=149...

It's an auto and occasionally the box seems a bit sluggish but I suspect a fluid change might help. Obviously I have done very little to it and now I've decided I need an estate it's basically surplus to requirements.

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Monday 27th July 2015
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philmots said:
ATM said:
I like it. Sure they're a few niggles but that's always going to be the case buying private for reasonable money. I'm already thinking of non-rft as I am a serial hater of rft. I did check the pressures on mine yesterday and found that 3 were on around 20 - 25 psi. I only managed to do 3 for 20p and refused to put a 50p in the machine. Then this morning on my way to the gym I got a flat tyre warning come up. I've got my own pump somewhere so I'll need to do them again and reset the computer.

Anyway on to today's niggle. As above - now moved to here -

So this is what is now starting to niggle 5 days in. It feels like there is some throttle pedal lag. In normal drive [not tested sport] at lower revs if you blip the throttle pedal quickly then the engine doesn't respond. It is as if the fly by wire - I hope it is fly by wire or I'll look like a plum - waits for a second to see what you do next with the throttle. Has anyone else noticed this or is mine goosed?
Mine came with 4x new Goodyear NCT5 Runflats, I don't mind the Runflats bit as it rides ok but the tyres are terrible.. I can't bear to throw them so they'll stay for the meantime. I'm going to replace them with Pilot Supersports when the time comes, I'm also tempted by the 19" Spiders too. Although the Touring officially needs 4 x front wheels as you can't fit the staggered wider rears without spacers - not for me.

They take very high pressures, sure it's 2.5/3.0 front/back.. Then reset the tyre warning straight away.

Re throttle blipping, when you say quick, how quickly? If I blip mine as quick as I possibly could it doesn't do much but it does respond. If I blip it just fairly quick then it's super responsive. There's a way of resetting the throttle pedal which I can't quite remember but it's all over Google, I did it and noticed a faint beep and a difference, but apparently by just using a lot of full throttle will do the same thing as it wakes the car up to your driving style.

Mines averaging 21mpg, never really do any long runs in that average (last average on a long highish speed run was 24mpg) I think that's all pretty reasonable really. Mpg is calculated properly as the computer is optimistic!

Another nice tip (I got from Hornetrider) is you've a few miles left on the range after you've passed 0 which does help as it can be a pain going to the petrol station too often. I went about 2 miles over and got 67 litres in. Tank holds 70 I think.



Edited by philmots on Monday 27th July 17:06
Spacers dont scare me. I have a set of BBS wheels in my lockup which are 18 inch but the offsets are way out for the E61 so I would need spacers on all 4 corners to use them. They are 10 inch wide rears and 8.5 fronts. That should allow me to run 285 / 275 rear and 255 / 245 fronts. I'll need to go and have a double check on offset, then maybe get some spacers and try a test fit.

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Tuesday 28th July 2015
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hornetrider said:
Linky no worky

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I like this one but my baby would destroy those back seats in 15 seconds.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...



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Tuesday 28th July 2015
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dom9 said:
wsurfa said:
Lovely but the £12k above a 550i is too much for me to consider. I do love the idea of a 500bhp estate (was looking at RS6's for a while). Decided the 550iT is the 'sensible' choice smile
My thoughts exactly at 4x the cost of my car (ok, 3x now I've done some bits), just too rich for me when you consider bork and servicing.

Plus, Bella the black Lab would have devalued it within minutes...

If they ever drop towards 10k, things may change!
I think the sub 50000 miles cars will always stay up there price wise because the mandatory warranty is cheaper for these.

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Tuesday 28th July 2015
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Next on my to do list is go flat tyres for the E61. When are we going to hear some sound bites of this new exhaust?

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Wednesday 29th July 2015
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philmots said:
A place local to me will do a custom backbox for £200 (10 years) or £270 in stainless..

I'm more tempted to go down that route but i do fancy one of the brands.
Cheap and cheerful wins for me.

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Wednesday 29th July 2015
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hornetrider said:
I don't know what the exhaust does ...
It expels the exhaust gasses out the back of the car and muffles some of the noise.

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Thursday 30th July 2015
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Found a Tracker in my glovebox. Just behind the clip off Panel. That is coming straight out.

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ATM said:
Found a Tracker in my glovebox. Just behind the clip off Panel. That is coming straight out.
Smart Nav UK paperweight now on my desk.

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Friday 31st July 2015
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I practiced some traffic light launches last night. If the road is dry it just takes off with zero fuss. Even at 60 if you need to overtake a queue of say 3 cars and a lorry it just does it - easily. Sure it is a bit lardy in the curvy bits but it does hang on in there.

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Friday 31st July 2015
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Spuffington said:
jboy72 said:
Ellieb10 said:
My E61 545i has adaptive drive - I find it the only thing I really dislike about the car. Why BMW thought lighter steering at speed is desirable is beyond me. Perhaps the 550i's steering is recalibrated? Anyway, I run an Alpina B5 alignment pattern which makes a slight improvement.

I'm interested in a slightly more expressive back box too. Thought about the mod where you pull some of the wadding out and reweld the back boxes but decided it was too ghetto.
Do you perhaps have active steering rather than adaptive drive? I have never heard a bad word said about adaptive drive... plus I think it adjusts the suspension rather than the steering rack...

Edited by jboy72 on Thursday 30th July 16:48
I'm with you on this. Adaptive Drive is constantly in play but messing with the "stiffness" of the anti-roll bars, does nothing to the steering. The way to tell if you have it is not only how flat you corner, how supple the suspension is when not cornering but also the presence of a reasonably large hydraulic box in the centre rear of the car. It sits between the two anti-roll bars and modulates their tension based on the cornering forces.

Ok, so not unlikely that you could have Active Steering AND Adaptive Drive but I would suggest it's the former which will make the steering light, not the latter. Never had any issue with mine and made the 550i SO much more comfortable and capable than my 535d lci.
I dont have that on my bus



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Lurking said:
Very nice. If/when mine needs anything doing to the exhaust I'd look into a bit more noise.
Mine is SE and debadged, always amusing to surprise people!
Even with the badge I still surprise people.

ATM

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Saturday 1st August 2015
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I just had a brief interaction with a 2007 530i e61. The demonstration was swiftly over.