850 CSi or Ci anyone?
Discussion
Well, the Griff has gone and due to a misconstrued discussion (or selective hearing on Vic's part!) I am under threat of certain divorce if I dare spend even more money and get the Ferrari BEFORE the new appt in Spain has sold (I'm sure I agreed "sorted" as in rented, but I'm not going to win).
Henceforth, unless a REAL bargain of a 348 comes along, I need something that will tide me over for a year or two.
I have, after many conversations with an old and trusted friend (that'll be you Talkwrench
) decided that a 2+2 supercar Grand Tourer, that looks different from nearly anything else on the road, has a big road presence, is built properly, goes like stink and will still keep me nice and cool in the heat of summ ... forget that ... in the heat of Spain or France, would actually be a pretty damn good move ...
and I have always loved the look of them.
Ideally I would love an 850 CSi, but I think the price is prohibitive for a decent one.
The second choice is an 850 Ci - obviously not as quick, but with Motorsport suspension, a couple of chips and a straightforward M5 diff swap I am led to believe they can be made to barrel along at a fair old lick.
I know a lot of people say that the late 4.4 Ci Sport would be the better option, but i am led to believe that the torque takes a fair few revs to come into it's own. Basically, I was advised that knowing the sort of driving I do, I may be a little dissapointed with the 840 Ci S. Obviously, you can get a lot younger model for the money, but i think I could only be tempted by a manual ... and i believe there were only three RHD manual made, and one of them went to NZ!
So ... if anyone knows of a nice 850 CSi or 850 Ci please let me know preferably under 100k miles. I know of a very very nice Ci available, but I am just testing the water to see if there happens to be a good Hellrot CSi out there in need of a quick sale that i don't know about yet!
Although i would have been very tempted by a 4.4 Like this
Oh, and if there are any other good sites to search on I would be grateful for a pointer.
Thanks in advance
al.
Henceforth, unless a REAL bargain of a 348 comes along, I need something that will tide me over for a year or two.
I have, after many conversations with an old and trusted friend (that'll be you Talkwrench
) decided that a 2+2 supercar Grand Tourer, that looks different from nearly anything else on the road, has a big road presence, is built properly, goes like stink and will still keep me nice and cool in the heat of summ ... forget that ... in the heat of Spain or France, would actually be a pretty damn good move ... and I have always loved the look of them.
Ideally I would love an 850 CSi, but I think the price is prohibitive for a decent one.
The second choice is an 850 Ci - obviously not as quick, but with Motorsport suspension, a couple of chips and a straightforward M5 diff swap I am led to believe they can be made to barrel along at a fair old lick.
I know a lot of people say that the late 4.4 Ci Sport would be the better option, but i am led to believe that the torque takes a fair few revs to come into it's own. Basically, I was advised that knowing the sort of driving I do, I may be a little dissapointed with the 840 Ci S. Obviously, you can get a lot younger model for the money, but i think I could only be tempted by a manual ... and i believe there were only three RHD manual made, and one of them went to NZ!
So ... if anyone knows of a nice 850 CSi or 850 Ci please let me know preferably under 100k miles. I know of a very very nice Ci available, but I am just testing the water to see if there happens to be a good Hellrot CSi out there in need of a quick sale that i don't know about yet!
Although i would have been very tempted by a 4.4 Like this
Oh, and if there are any other good sites to search on I would be grateful for a pointer.
Thanks in advance
al.
Edited by burriana on Tuesday 17th July 21:18
Podie said:
Al - cheap as chips this one... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/203979.htm
I have seen that Pods, the only thing is, i believe the 840i is the 4.0 and may be too sluggish (also they have have nicasil issues) whereas the 4.4 does not.Mustard said:
Dont be put off by the lack of info, IIRC when it was 1st advertised it was Red and had a sensible mileage on it and looked in good shape from the pictures.... In short worth following up
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/186631.htm
Hi Mustard - I have spoken to the owner of this who, given the benefit of the doubt, seems genuine, but was very niaive when he bought the car. It has no service history, so he put it straight into his local main dealer and had them do a major service and go through it with a fine tooth combe. He spent £4500 of which I have seen a PDF of the 5 page receipt.http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/186631.htm
Unfortunately, he didn't do the simple common sense check and ask a main dealer to print out a history of it's previous dealer visits. I did. On paper there appears to be a significant discrepancy in the mileage.
Mustard said:
or this one is seriously good value....
Al If its of interest and you were serious its pretty local to me (and I happen to be off work this week) so could give it a look over regards condition and history (though you'd want to get it proffesionally checked out mechanic)
I did spot this one straight away and forwarded it to Talkwrench to see what he thought. the obvious question has to be, why is it so cheap ... and for a CSi it is VERY cheap.Al If its of interest and you were serious its pretty local to me (and I happen to be off work this week) so could give it a look over regards condition and history (though you'd want to get it proffesionally checked out mechanic)
Ok, the colour must be one of the worst that they did, I have never even seen one in that colour before, but there must be some reason that it is that price. If it was spot on I would have it like a shot!
This is one car that I simply cannot afford to pay top dollar for as I will need to be able to sell it without taking a massive hit when the time comes to get the 348.
As ever, thanks for your time so far guys
Bloody hell Pods and Mustard ... outstanding stuff
I take it that you work in the car industry Mustard, hence access to Hpi?
I know everyone says that the cars will do stellar mileage (they said that about my 525 TDS untill the head cracked at 165k! ... but will i be able to sell it if it has say 140k miles after 2 years with me?
I take it that you work in the car industry Mustard, hence access to Hpi?
I know everyone says that the cars will do stellar mileage (they said that about my 525 TDS untill the head cracked at 165k! ... but will i be able to sell it if it has say 140k miles after 2 years with me?
Mustard - I appreciate the time on the Calypso red one but I'm afraid it is just too high on the mileage. In a year I would have it to 130k, if I had to keep it 2 years, then 140k ... and at that level they become very hard to sell no matter what people say.
I do need one just under 100k if I can find one
Pods, you're right, the 850 is the one to hold out for if I can find one ... it's just finding a good one!
I do need one just under 100k if I can find one
Pods, you're right, the 850 is the one to hold out for if I can find one ... it's just finding a good one!
Podie said:
Saw that one in AutoTrader and it would be perfect ... if only it didn't have that Godawfull body kit and bling bling red leather You think me 911 was Porn Star car bro'
Podie said:
What's the difference is specs between an "850" and "850CSi"..? (or isn't there one?)
HUGE!850 Ci is the 5.0 V12 with steptronic box.
850CSi is the Motorsport version - 5.6 M-Sport V12 with the all important manual 6-speed box. It also has M-Sport suspension and rear wheel steering. Good for about 190 with the limiter off
An adapted version of the CSi engine block made it's way into the McLaren F1
Podie said:
That's about the going rate for a good CSi - hence why I think it will have to be an 850 Ci 
Mustard said:
Fantastic links Mustard, especially the tech one. Thanks.Talkwrench said:
Now, I'd have thought that perfect for you, Al!
That is one of the expensive optional 'individual' CSi interiors and what looks like a pukker CSi body kit (sans mirrors) with the addition of the optional Motorsport boot spoiler.
Those seats are motorsport seats with electrically adjustable thigh support etc etc
Ah ha, there you are! That is one of the expensive optional 'individual' CSi interiors and what looks like a pukker CSi body kit (sans mirrors) with the addition of the optional Motorsport boot spoiler.
Those seats are motorsport seats with electrically adjustable thigh support etc etc
So basically, it isn't a chavved up Halfords jobby? Does that boot spoiler actually do much good? And is the rest of the body kit likely to detract from the car's value?
I think I would have to get the seats re-covered though and that'll cost about £2k just for the middle sections!
I have spoken to the garage but the owner is away today and it has been his own car for the last couple of years. The only thing I am wary of (apart from the seats and the boot spoiler!) is the part "specialist" history. He uses a local guy who is known to him that is a BMW mechanic. What that means I have no idea. He does state that all the old MOTs back up the mileage which is pretty hard to fake well I guess and easy to check up on.
ah! ... your edited add on kinda backs up my first thoughts - not so good then?
Edited by burriana on Wednesday 18th July 14:09
hemibum said:
Check out the forums on www.clube31.net
New registrations by request only 
What's all that about?
You don't think I'm letting you guys do ALL the work do you
Derin is one very useful chap to know and we have conversed via email on and off for over three years now, since I started looking for my uber-cruiser in fact ... which is now on over 220k
(I'm also going to ask him for car cleaning lessons
)
Derin is one very useful chap to know and we have conversed via email on and off for over three years now, since I started looking for my uber-cruiser in fact ... which is now on over 220k
(I'm also going to ask him for car cleaning lessons
)belleair302 said:
Drop Alex at Munich Legends a line and see if he can help. You may not get the cheapest car around, but you will certainly get a well maintained car and ML seem to shift a fair number of 8 series.
Also have a look at the BMW Owners Club Forum to see what is currently available.
Thanks for the pointer belleair ... Just checked out his website but he only seems to have 7 cars currently for sale, and 1 coming soon ... none of which were 8s.Also have a look at the BMW Owners Club Forum to see what is currently available.
Podie said:
Bloody great ... trying to get hold of this guy and the contact number is wrong!Podie said:
burriana said:
Podie said:
Bloody great ... trying to get hold of this guy and the contact number is wrong!An M1! Now that is an odd one ... I might be wrong but I thought that they were a lot lot more expensive than that.
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