bikes for under a grand!?
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can it be done? by that I mean has anyone ever bought a bike for under £1000 and it's been flawless mechanically, or can be put right for under the grand budget.
damage to fairings etc excluded.
I've seen 4 bikes recently all under a grand with the view to a cheap track bike.
zxr 750
zxr 400
cbr 400
fzr 1000 exup
everyone I've went to see has been a shed apart from the exup, each requiring new rubber, brakes done, bearings here and there, sprockets, dodgy clutches, blown fork seals, pitted forks, chains gone, carbs needing done, flat spots, batteries gone, exhausts blowing the list could go on and that's before fairing damage is taken into account.
3/4 of these bikes had just got brand new mots. but they are un rideable IMO. bags of utter s
t, neglected pieces of tat.
so has anyone ever managed it or am I just going to need raise my budget
on another note I did instantly fall in love with the exup after riding it. the position was great and the engine was just so well balanced and smooth. if it wasn't for pitted forks, head bearing, gone tyres and sticky brakes id be the new owner of it. intact if the forks were just all right I'd have had it in a heartbeat.
damage to fairings etc excluded.
I've seen 4 bikes recently all under a grand with the view to a cheap track bike.
zxr 750
zxr 400
cbr 400
fzr 1000 exup
everyone I've went to see has been a shed apart from the exup, each requiring new rubber, brakes done, bearings here and there, sprockets, dodgy clutches, blown fork seals, pitted forks, chains gone, carbs needing done, flat spots, batteries gone, exhausts blowing the list could go on and that's before fairing damage is taken into account.
3/4 of these bikes had just got brand new mots. but they are un rideable IMO. bags of utter s
t, neglected pieces of tat. so has anyone ever managed it or am I just going to need raise my budget
on another note I did instantly fall in love with the exup after riding it. the position was great and the engine was just so well balanced and smooth. if it wasn't for pitted forks, head bearing, gone tyres and sticky brakes id be the new owner of it. intact if the forks were just all right I'd have had it in a heartbeat.
I went to see a baby cbr today from
a kinda dealer. I say dealer he was more of a breaker come joiner.
it had been a project completed. spray can job looked st
brakes gone. rear disc need replaced blown exhaust, tyres fked, battery gone.
he had just cleaned and synced the carbs. it blew smoke and I mean thick smoke with choke on and off.
it had the worlds greatest flat spot as well.
he wanted £800 for it!!!!!!!!
I'd give him 300.
the guy with the exup wanted 600 down from 700 I offer 500 but he liked it too much to punt it for that.
a kinda dealer. I say dealer he was more of a breaker come joiner.
it had been a project completed. spray can job looked s
tbrakes gone. rear disc need replaced blown exhaust, tyres f
ked, battery gone. he had just cleaned and synced the carbs. it blew smoke and I mean thick smoke with choke on and off.
it had the worlds greatest flat spot as well.
he wanted £800 for it!!!!!!!!
I'd give him 300.
the guy with the exup wanted 600 down from 700 I offer 500 but he liked it too much to punt it for that.
It has to be within a 50 mile radius to be honest now.
Im fed up making a 100 mile round trip to see something that is perfect with no faults to get there and its shagged.
the problem with ebay is that I would never ever buy a bike for this kinda money without seeing it first and very few in Scotland come up for that price.
they look great in the picture, the seller boasts his new MOT but you get there and its on its way out.
Im not even just looking for a certain type of bike as well. Anything kinda sporty would do. Its just there is so much st out there.
Im on gumtree 3-4 times a day, ebay at least once.
Im looking at a £700-800 bike and im thinking, christ I value my ninja at £1200-1500 and it needs nothing done to it to get at least a year or two out of it, with no marks on it. these bikes you could spend up to and beyond the value of my ninja and they would never look or ride as good.
I suspect come winter there might be a few...
this goes back to my post the other day about MOTS they really are a waste of time when looking at bikes. they mean fk all...
Im fed up making a 100 mile round trip to see something that is perfect with no faults to get there and its shagged.
the problem with ebay is that I would never ever buy a bike for this kinda money without seeing it first and very few in Scotland come up for that price.
they look great in the picture, the seller boasts his new MOT but you get there and its on its way out.
Im not even just looking for a certain type of bike as well. Anything kinda sporty would do. Its just there is so much s
t out there.Im on gumtree 3-4 times a day, ebay at least once.
Im looking at a £700-800 bike and im thinking, christ I value my ninja at £1200-1500 and it needs nothing done to it to get at least a year or two out of it, with no marks on it. these bikes you could spend up to and beyond the value of my ninja and they would never look or ride as good.
I suspect come winter there might be a few...
this goes back to my post the other day about MOTS they really are a waste of time when looking at bikes. they mean f
k all...I'll just need to keep looking and maybe wait for winter.
it amazes me though how people can ride a bike that's not in good condition.
ok if it was a bandit or something like that to be used as a winter hack fair enough.
but to have a sports bike where the handling is awful and something could go very wrong mechanically at high speed it makes you wonder.
they are ether stupid as fk and careless or shouldn't have bought a sports bike in the first place.
it amazes me though how people can ride a bike that's not in good condition.
ok if it was a bandit or something like that to be used as a winter hack fair enough.
but to have a sports bike where the handling is awful and something could go very wrong mechanically at high speed it makes you wonder.
they are ether stupid as f
k and careless or shouldn't have bought a sports bike in the first place. just seen another exup
£1000 48,000 miles on the clock.
phoned him up, its been on 20 minutes, oh sorry I thought you were dave he is looking to buy the bike as well, told me he was unemployed and how good the bike is cause he spends a lot of time cleaning it and polishing it. this some how adds value to it. even though it's covered in a shopping list of stickers.
tells me the forks were advisory last time for a mist. I assume he meant leaking so need done
a tyre was advisory last time and they are over 4 year old (in my view 4 year old + tyres need replacing, not according to him who told me it goes by miles) told me he could get a set for £70 odd, anyway.
it needs a new front set of discs.
calipers rebuilt
has a months tax and mot
all this before I seen it, so I offered £600 over the phone. he didn't seem to think it was fair. kept saying how good a bike it is and how he gets looks everywhere he goes. it's a beast fast as anything. but he doesn't use it much cause he's unemployed and can't afford the fuel.
no much use to me when it's lying in the sand trap at Taylor's though.
I'm looking at getting a second zx6r as well for £1,100. but the seller wouldn't budge on price. it has no mot and needs new tyres so I offered £900.
he says he'd rather sell it at £1,100 with a fresh mot and new tyres. strange. you think he would have just saved the hassle and cost.
£1000 48,000 miles on the clock.
phoned him up, its been on 20 minutes, oh sorry I thought you were dave he is looking to buy the bike as well, told me he was unemployed and how good the bike is cause he spends a lot of time cleaning it and polishing it. this some how adds value to it. even though it's covered in a shopping list of stickers.
tells me the forks were advisory last time for a mist. I assume he meant leaking so need done
a tyre was advisory last time and they are over 4 year old (in my view 4 year old + tyres need replacing, not according to him who told me it goes by miles) told me he could get a set for £70 odd, anyway.
it needs a new front set of discs.
calipers rebuilt
has a months tax and mot
all this before I seen it, so I offered £600 over the phone. he didn't seem to think it was fair. kept saying how good a bike it is and how he gets looks everywhere he goes. it's a beast fast as anything. but he doesn't use it much cause he's unemployed and can't afford the fuel.
no much use to me when it's lying in the sand trap at Taylor's though.
I'm looking at getting a second zx6r as well for £1,100. but the seller wouldn't budge on price. it has no mot and needs new tyres so I offered £900.
he says he'd rather sell it at £1,100 with a fresh mot and new tyres. strange. you think he would have just saved the hassle and cost.
Condi said:
Not yet, picking this one up tomorrow. Looks okay from pictures, and for £700 there is enough money for new sprockets, chain etc if needed. The bike is described as 'good mechanical condition' and so if it isnt then I can walk away.
hope all goes well but if it's anything like my last half a dozen or so experiences you will be walking Condi said:
Tbh, for £700 Im not expecting anything much. It'll be used for 2 or 3 trackdays a year, so as long as its safe and not going to fall apart then what more can you ask?
that's exactly my remit. I've not cared if it's been dropped or looks f
ked as long as it can stand the track. each one would be dead after 10 minutes or I would unless I spent hundreds. seriously.
I was looking at a 91 cbr f that had been rebuilt completely for £600.
rebuilt completely meant painted matt black. mind you I've yet to see it so it might be ok
Condi said:
moanthebairns said:
that's exactly my remit.
I've not cared if it's been dropped or looks fked as long as it can stand the track.
each one would be dead after 10 minutes or I would unless I spent hundreds. seriously.
I was looking at a 91 cbr f that had been rebuilt completely for £600.
rebuilt completely meant painted matt black. mind you I've yet to see it so it might be ok
Well maybe Ive been lucky today, but the bike I bought is pretty good I think. ZX6R, 1997 with 40k on the clock. Track fairings, but still got the standard wiring loom. Guy who owned it spanners for a superstock team and has obviously looked after it. Wont know until Thursday when I give it a good run, but so far quiet happy. At the moment I think its a real credit to the previous owner (Hi Rob, if you read this). I've not cared if it's been dropped or looks f
ked as long as it can stand the track. each one would be dead after 10 minutes or I would unless I spent hundreds. seriously.
I was looking at a 91 cbr f that had been rebuilt completely for £600.
rebuilt completely meant painted matt black. mind you I've yet to see it so it might be ok
I went to see a cbrf 600 thinking f
k it, he wants £550. tyres gone, (he told me they were 50 per cent worn) forks leaking, brakes gone, and a huge clunking noise from the front over bumps.
id have had to spenda another 400 odd so thought nah, its no really what im after.
Just gonna keep looking but so far everything has been s
te!moto_traxport said:
moanthebairns said:
hope it all goes well. Does depend on your location I suppose, lots more bikes down in ingerland that up here.
I went to see a cbrf 600 thinking fk it, he wants £550.
tyres gone, (he told me they were 50 per cent worn) forks leaking, brakes gone, and a huge clunking noise from the front over bumps.
id have had to spenda another 400 odd so thought nah, its no really what im after.
Just gonna keep looking but so far everything has been ste!
Its a good job you're not adding up all the time and fuel you're going through looking at all these cheapies! I wouldn't worry about soft brakes or tyres slightly over 4 years old as you'll rebuild them and fit some part worn race tyres before a trackday surely? I went to see a cbrf 600 thinking f
k it, he wants £550. tyres gone, (he told me they were 50 per cent worn) forks leaking, brakes gone, and a huge clunking noise from the front over bumps.
id have had to spenda another 400 odd so thought nah, its no really what im after.
Just gonna keep looking but so far everything has been s
te!at the stage now where I ask everything about the bike condition of certain parts.
here it is I've bought a 3rd bike and I dunno why to be honest but fk it
a 1993 zz6r,28,000 miles went to see it today it had only been up a few hours.
ok a few scuffs and light cracks to the fairings cosmetically it's not bad though.
10 months mot, 4 months tax
calipers rebuild, carbs done 600 miles ago, new chain and sprocket, decent life in the tyres, nothing that I could see wrong with it.
mtc exhausts. a nice bike mechanically.
to be honest, I had a shot of it and thought meh, sorta quick, but very long and heavy not the greatest thing to turn in. it's not ideal for the track.
but when he said if you take it today I'll do it for £500 I didn't even need to think about it. it's worth £800 maybe so even if I don't like it I can move it on for what I paid easily.
I'll give it a go, I might track it but what I'm thinking is.
daytona for weekends
ninja - get track fairings and make it a decdicated track bike
the bardge - leave it as it is use it for going to work, lying outside and for winter use.
as Andrew of here said when he seen it, eBay a sunny Sunday and bang £900 to someone who is after a bike for the summer. at £500 it's not to bad a buy.
k ita 1993 zz6r,28,000 miles went to see it today it had only been up a few hours.
ok a few scuffs and light cracks to the fairings cosmetically it's not bad though.
10 months mot, 4 months tax
calipers rebuild, carbs done 600 miles ago, new chain and sprocket, decent life in the tyres, nothing that I could see wrong with it.
mtc exhausts. a nice bike mechanically.
to be honest, I had a shot of it and thought meh, sorta quick, but very long and heavy not the greatest thing to turn in. it's not ideal for the track.
but when he said if you take it today I'll do it for £500 I didn't even need to think about it. it's worth £800 maybe so even if I don't like it I can move it on for what I paid easily.
I'll give it a go, I might track it but what I'm thinking is.
daytona for weekends
ninja - get track fairings and make it a decdicated track bike
the bardge - leave it as it is use it for going to work, lying outside and for winter use.
as Andrew of here said when he seen it, eBay a sunny Sunday and bang £900 to someone who is after a bike for the summer. at £500 it's not to bad a buy.
podman said:
They must have forgotten to tell a young John Reynolds that...
I know where your coming from but look around some of the classic meets, if your not racing to put dinner on the table, you can have fun with anything on track..
I've only really had it for a five minute rideI know where your coming from but look around some of the classic meets, if your not racing to put dinner on the table, you can have fun with anything on track..
I'll see what it's like once I get a blast on it tomorrow. if its ok im using it for the track. get a few outings out of it.
im back on the case after making £350 profit from my last venture, not bad for 4 days ownership.
so went to see two srads just over £1000, first one was a six hundred, every fairing scuffed or cracked much worse than pictures. Flat spot on it, head bearing gone, brakes need done gear lever rusted to hell. worth £600-700 and only because he put new tyres on it. Guy was ok though, even though he did lie about the mileage by 10,000
next, the classic gumtree seller.
spoke to him and asked for lots of info as it was a 120 mile trip to see it.
how worn are the tyres? 50 percent worn I got out of him. he had part worns as well.
any mechanical or cosmetic problems, no.
carbs when were they last done, dunno.
price? £1050.
ok ill come see it. "aye well if you coming bring the full amount cause it aint going for any less your wasting your time" he then hung up. I should have known then not to go but I was in the area for work.
got there, it had been dropped nose cone scratched, left fairing scratched and seat cowl. Not bad mind you.
tyres flat spotted and beyond wear indicators. his part worns were the same.
sounded rough, it needed the carbs done
slight pitting on the forks (he told me it just got new fork seals as they were gone, made me thing hmmm why did they go)
asked to take it a ride anyway, went to knock it into gear and my foot fell away.
foot rest was loose as hell practically falling off its hanger. "Mate I cant ride that, ill snap it" wtf you talking about its fine, "look its hanging off its unsafe" aw I ride with it all the time like that, "really".
Aye I do wheelies at 120mph and its fine, "You do wheelies at 120mph", aye aw the time, "honestly!", aye.
Thats impressive (im thinking ive met steve hislop here) "aye ive been riding before I was born".
I walked at that point, got home to find he texted asking "You want to make me a offer"
so I mentioned the work that needs done and put an offer in of £750 thinking he wouldnt accept it.
"make it £800 he replied".
No thanks was my reply. I reckon its had a hard, hard life. Probably hiding more.
he just said ok, I reckon ill get a text accepting my £750 later. Even then its not worth it.
so next lined up is a zx6r g2 and a cbr 900
so went to see two srads just over £1000, first one was a six hundred, every fairing scuffed or cracked much worse than pictures. Flat spot on it, head bearing gone, brakes need done gear lever rusted to hell. worth £600-700 and only because he put new tyres on it. Guy was ok though, even though he did lie about the mileage by 10,000
next, the classic gumtree seller.
spoke to him and asked for lots of info as it was a 120 mile trip to see it.
how worn are the tyres? 50 percent worn I got out of him. he had part worns as well.
any mechanical or cosmetic problems, no.
carbs when were they last done, dunno.
price? £1050.
ok ill come see it. "aye well if you coming bring the full amount cause it aint going for any less your wasting your time" he then hung up. I should have known then not to go but I was in the area for work.
got there, it had been dropped nose cone scratched, left fairing scratched and seat cowl. Not bad mind you.
tyres flat spotted and beyond wear indicators. his part worns were the same.
sounded rough, it needed the carbs done
slight pitting on the forks (he told me it just got new fork seals as they were gone, made me thing hmmm why did they go)
asked to take it a ride anyway, went to knock it into gear and my foot fell away.
foot rest was loose as hell practically falling off its hanger. "Mate I cant ride that, ill snap it" wtf you talking about its fine, "look its hanging off its unsafe" aw I ride with it all the time like that, "really".
Aye I do wheelies at 120mph and its fine, "You do wheelies at 120mph", aye aw the time, "honestly!", aye.
Thats impressive (im thinking ive met steve hislop here) "aye ive been riding before I was born".
I walked at that point, got home to find he texted asking "You want to make me a offer"
so I mentioned the work that needs done and put an offer in of £750 thinking he wouldnt accept it.
"make it £800 he replied".
No thanks was my reply. I reckon its had a hard, hard life. Probably hiding more.
he just said ok, I reckon ill get a text accepting my £750 later. Even then its not worth it.
so next lined up is a zx6r g2 and a cbr 900
Edited by moanthebairns on Tuesday 9th July 17:26
time to bring some life back into this thread.
I sold the zzr made £300 from the sale and bought this, a F model zx6r for £825.
It wouldnt start once I got it home so serviced it, new plugs and leads, new fuel hoses, gave it a right could clean up eh and that was it... stuck it on gumtree for £1150 sold it for £1100 spent about £100-125 on it so made about a £150 - £175 ish.
then bought a mint condition zx6r the exact same as mines, carbs done, new chain and sprockets etc. well looked after bike with a few scuffs but almost as good condition as mines.
£1250...
sooo thats me sorted, my beloved ninja for everyday use, daytona for the weekend and the other ninja for the track.
BUT THEN...........the nugget who I went to see a few months back texted me at the weekend. Thats the 120 mph wheelie king....The Bikers Nemesis of the North.
"Do you still want a bike" - yes
"Make me an offer" - £600
"haha" - needs lots done thats as much as im prepared to go
"like what" - carbs cleaned & synce, forks, new tyres, tax, foot peg, brakes, fairings...
"ive fixed the peg" - still needs lots done
"whatever" - £600 is my offer.
"keep your six hundred ill keep my bike" - ok
Got another text this morning, "ill do if for £700." - sorry can only do £600
"ok, when can you get it".........
Making sure he runs it to me as, tyres are illegal, has no tax, and im skeptical that he has fixed the peg. Still for £600 ill spend a few hundred or so and happy days a 4th bike for eh, well I dunno.....
SAS Tom said:
How do you sell these bikes so quickly? Do you wait for the V5 or not? I want to get rid of the above BMW but I'm still waiting for the V5.
Dvla has a back log just now, you can sell it on by giving them the new owners slip.once you get the v5 in your name you then fill it in with your buyers details
Rosscow said:
Haha, I remember the 120mph wheelie king!!!
You're either brave or stupid!
He is a brain dead aYou're either brave or stupid!
hole of the turd degree.but for £600 im not going to loose much if it turns out a banger.
The way I see it is I spend about a £5er a week on football coupons and win f
k all, maybe the odd £30 or £40. (I did have a system that returned £100 but it took forever).This is gambling, I could win but then again I could loose.
In the last 12 months ive picked up a 1,500 mile daytona 675 for £3,000. (got a recent trade in of £4,000 no haggling).
and the rest so im not doing too bad. Ive seen some s
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