GSXR 600 Cutting out

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Jammez

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208 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Hi Folks

Looking for a bit of advice on this. I have an older GSXR 600 SRAD (1998)and it's started to cut out at 7000rpm. Doesn't matter which gear it's in it just will not go any higher than 7000rpm.

Whilst it's an older bike it's in pretty good condition but it is a constant battle to keep on top of electrical connections, there always seems to be something playing up that ends up being a corroded connector or fraying cable.

What would cause the cut out at exactly the same point in the rev range?

Any help greatly appreciated as want to get this sorted over the weekend if I can.

Cheers

James

Jammez

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665 posts

208 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Thanks for the reply. If your riding the power will cut, drop about 500 rpm then pick back up until you reach 7000 again. If you rev it out of gear it will cut out completely some of the time.

The bike didn't get used much last year and has only been back out about a month. I'm not sure if the problem has been there all month as the bike gets mostly used for commuting so if I'm being honest I rarely have the need or get the chance to go above 7000rpm so it might have had a problem for a while & I've just never rev'd it enough to make it happen. I only noticed last week when I did get to go out for a longer run. I've since made a point of giving it some revs on the way to work and it's continued to do it.

I get my petrol from various places and it's had several tanks since I noticed the problem. Doesn't make any difference with a full tank or running right on fumes.

If your thinking fuel anything in particular I should check apart from the obvious like kinked/blocked pipes, vacuum pipes etc, plugs.



Jammez

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665 posts

208 months

Friday 9th May 2014
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Thanks Fleegle, will get poking around tomorrow and give the carbs a good clean out and see what happens.

Cheers

James

Jammez

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Friday 23rd May 2014
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Ok, looking for a little more advice on this one. Cleaned the carbs and flushed out the tank whilst I had it off and it's made no difference. The carbs were actually pretty spotless no residues or crap in them. Also replaced the plugs - they looked on the lighter side when I removed them but nothing extreme.

I'm leaning back towards an electrical problem, the fact it doesn't do it all the time (but most of the time), sometimes I go out for a ride & it's perfect. Today when riding it was fine for a about 5 mins then coming down under fairly heavy braking & flicking down the gears it back fired a couple of times, I'm not talking about the nice crackle you sometimes get this was like a shotgun being fired!

It's still cutting out at the 7k rpm mark whether under hard acceleration or gentle throttle build up.

Any more thoughts before I have to give in a book it in to the garage?

Jammez

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665 posts

208 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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Hi folks, just to confirm I did replace the fuel with completely fresh stuff after cleaning out everything and the bikes had a couple of fill ups since then.

I've only been able to visually check the ht leads and coils and there's nothing obvious with those but I need to read up on how to test the. Is there an easy way to test the coils other than replacing? I'm not one for just replacing parts until I find out what's wrong as that gets expensive very quickly!

I'm assuming (see if you follow my logic) that if there was a problem with a ht lead it would be damaged or corrosion based and would result in the problem occurring intermittently at various points in the rev range rather at the same point all the time?

I've been trying to identify more of the conditions that it occurs under and it seems that it's more prone once the bike has been warmed up. By warmed up I mean after about 10/15 mins riding rather than when the temp gauge reaches normal operating temp which only takes a couple of minutes.

Tank back off for more investigation this weekend!


Jammez

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665 posts

208 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Hi folks thanks again for the info. I thought I'd sorted it as I found a vacuum pipe off when I took the tank off again. There's a tapered hose coming off the bottom of the air box that looks like it should be a drain pipe but it isn't it should be connect to the vacuum system. Got excited that this would fix it but no such luck!

Tested the coils with the multi meter and the primary readings are way off for all four. The secondary's are fine. It does seem odd that all 4 are off by exactly the same amount so I'm just going to double check with a borrowed multimeter later this afternoon.

I've checked the side stand switch and cleaned that as that's come up a few times online and all seems fine. I've had it on the paddock stand running and wiggle the stand about it has to be quite far down before it will cut out so I'm thinking that's ok. I'm guessing the side stand switch kills power totally so if it was that the rev counter would die too which it doesn't do when I'm riding.

To add another symptom when out testing yesterday I managed to get it to go past 7k by holding the throttle open. Previously I'd been backing off as soon as the power died but if I hold the throttle after a few seconds it will pick back up and go past 7k, usually with a couple of attempts but the bike then runs very hot, temp gauge climbs rapidly and when I braked hard to slow down all the electrics went gaga. Warning lights coming on,LCD screen displaying everything. Once slowed back down all returns to normal.

Don't know if this is part of it or something else!

Got the tank back off again last night went through all the electrical connectors found a couple grubby looking connectors which I've cleaned up so back out this morning to see what it's like.