Busted for speeding by camera van.
Discussion
They have the evidence, photos of me and my bike...... but how do they know my reg number if the only pics they have are the front of the bike?
Does someone jump out of their speed van and have a look as I ride by?
First offence since I passed my test in 1977.
Any chance I could demand photographic evidence it was actually my bike?
Does someone jump out of their speed van and have a look as I ride by?
First offence since I passed my test in 1977.
Any chance I could demand photographic evidence it was actually my bike?
This van was facing backwards to me, sort of hidden in some bushes at the side of the road, from what I remember. Not sure if they had any external cameras that I could see.
Shouldn't a photo of my number plate be part of the evid nice too?
I'm guilty, I made a mistake, wasn't sure if I was in a 30 or 40, so assumed it was a 40.
Plus, there was a 40 sign a few yards past the van, so I never even hit the brakes when I saw the van. They bagged me for 37 in a 30.
Shouldn't a photo of my number plate be part of the evid nice too?
I'm guilty, I made a mistake, wasn't sure if I was in a 30 or 40, so assumed it was a 40.
Plus, there was a 40 sign a few yards past the van, so I never even hit the brakes when I saw the van. They bagged me for 37 in a 30.
Yes, I have filled in the form and sent it off already.
I hope they will let me do the course. Clean license since I was 17, so hoping to keep it that way.
The ironic thing is the day the letter arrived I'd just passed another speed camera van in our town, and I'm pretty sure I was on the edge of 30 in a 30, but it is a bit tricky to maintain speed on a 1200 Bandit when idling along at what feels like walking speed. So easy to drift up 10mph without even noticing.
Fingers crossed..... twice in a week would break my heart, and confidence in my riding. I hardly ever exceed legal speed in built up areas.
I hope they will let me do the course. Clean license since I was 17, so hoping to keep it that way.
The ironic thing is the day the letter arrived I'd just passed another speed camera van in our town, and I'm pretty sure I was on the edge of 30 in a 30, but it is a bit tricky to maintain speed on a 1200 Bandit when idling along at what feels like walking speed. So easy to drift up 10mph without even noticing.
Fingers crossed..... twice in a week would break my heart, and confidence in my riding. I hardly ever exceed legal speed in built up areas.
£28,000 to upgrade a standard speed camera van to that version. They will have to catch a whole load of people to cover that before they are into the profit zone.
Despite having just been busted, I have no moral objection to speed cameras and vans, as long as they are in sensible places, accident hot spots etc.
However, with all the ANPR systems in place, why can't they go out and catch some of the 30% of drivers who apparently don't have insurance?? It is all on line now, so a simple program could operate the same way the cameras do, and have a summons plop onto the doormat of non insured, or non MOT or taxed drivers.
Despite having just been busted, I have no moral objection to speed cameras and vans, as long as they are in sensible places, accident hot spots etc.
However, with all the ANPR systems in place, why can't they go out and catch some of the 30% of drivers who apparently don't have insurance?? It is all on line now, so a simple program could operate the same way the cameras do, and have a summons plop onto the doormat of non insured, or non MOT or taxed drivers.
WaferThinHam said:
Ring along in first gear, you notice it when you pick speed up a lot more. There are a couple of average camera zones in 30 limits near me. First gear is the way forward. (If anything a Bandit 12 is geared lower than my bike, so you might be able to get away with second).
It is geared ridiculously low, could probably pull a couple of extra teeth on the front sprocket easily.The motor is so flexible it would make a far better touring bike than my BM r1100r, the one I got busted on.
The Bandit has an aftermarket can on and it does tend to surge and hunt a little at low rpm, so I might try holding it in first gear and see how it goes.
Gavia said:
Where do you get 30% of drivers being uninsured from? That nearly 1 in 3 vehicles on the road. No way can that be realistic.
Something I saw on TV a couple of years ago, but the quantity is irrelevant, the message is still the same, why can't they summons everybody who is not legal, once they identify their car has been seen on the road. It would not be hard to program some system to do it, correlate all the information they already have, plus the ANPR, and job done. For many young 'uns the risk of getting caught is less of a hassle than finding £1500++ for insurance, so they don't bother. That was on the news too a while back. Plus I have a couple of nephews of that age who say the same thing.
ANPR interphase could have them all off the road in a few months. No reason they don't all have a summons in the post within weeks of driving.
ANPR interphase could have them all off the road in a few months. No reason they don't all have a summons in the post within weeks of driving.
moanthebairns said:
I'd be asking for a photo tbh for my £100. Not sure if you ask you don't get the speed course but up here its 3 points sir, £100 sir, wtf is a course.
As a matter of principle if I'm done again, I'll be getting a photo, like the log flume ride at blackpool.
I phoned up and they emailed me two photos. Pretty obvious it is me, though there is a blue van that looks about three feet from my tail end. As a matter of principle if I'm done again, I'll be getting a photo, like the log flume ride at blackpool.
When I first saw the speed camera I glanced in my mirror, as I knew there was a car behind me, and it had dropped back a long way, so I had already been clocked/filmed long before I actually saw the camera.
mx5nut said:
King Herald said:
I phoned up and they emailed me two photos. Pretty obvious it is me,
And they must have a record of your registration because they sent you the ticket.You know it was you.
They know it was you.
And you won't read this either, so why did I bother?
2 posts in 1 month and you f
ked it up. 
The Mad Monk said:
Why have you got a Ford badge on your helmet?
That is a cunningly disguised GoPro. 
Fleegle said:
Oh dear.......dropping oil is it?
O ring on the alternator was leaking when I first bought it, but soon fixed that. moanthebairns said:
There is that. Personally I wouldn't go as far as court but id be asking for proof of speed.
Proof of being able to distinguish between the van and you. All in writing and if they can't submit this I'd be asking for a written response as to why.
I did think of that, but if the van were going any faster than me he'd be running into me? I guess it could be argued as a technicality, but I'm sure I would have to escalate it, go to court, fight the good fight etc, and I'm sure they have ways and means of differentiating which vehicle they are looking at in a queue. Proof of being able to distinguish between the van and you. All in writing and if they can't submit this I'd be asking for a written response as to why.
He was right behind me at one stage, then next time I looked, just as I saw the speed van, he was way back. I guess he saw the speed van and hit the brakes, whereas I didn't as I thought I was in a 40.....
dibblecorse said:
Oooops
On a different note, is the 80's biker look the one you are going for ???
I'm not actually sure what the 'must have' biker apparel currently is. Dayglo leathers? Goretex? Carbon fibre?On a different note, is the 80's biker look the one you are going for ???
I bought the jacket ten years ago, the helmet is just a helmet, the trousers plain black waterproof, I don't do 'looks'. Looks are for fashion conscious pimply 18 year olds.
Birky_41 said:
Apologies this is what I meant. I've done exactly that too and had it dropped with insufficient evidence
Many years ago I would accept straight away to try and get a lesser punishment etc etc and had the book thrown at me so now they can suck my balls. If they can definitely prove it then fair play but if there's any doubt I'm going to contest
I would imagine the first thing a million people have said when caught for speeding was "how do you know it was me".... and insisted on evidence. Many years ago I would accept straight away to try and get a lesser punishment etc etc and had the book thrown at me so now they can suck my balls. If they can definitely prove it then fair play but if there's any doubt I'm going to contest
I would also imagine they have some method of actually proving it, or they would probably all be out of work right now.
If I didn't think it was me, or if I was sure I had not been speeding, I might contest it, but I know I'm guilty so I'll take the hit. Retraining course booked for Thursday morning, should be interesting.
Fleegle said:
King Herald said:
Retraining course booked for Thursday morning, should be interesting.
I hate to disappoint, but it will be anything but
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