The T*at on the Yellow R1

The T*at on the Yellow R1

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jellison

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Monday 19th February 2007
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After a wet track day at Mallory, cruising sensible rate back to Surrey mid afternoon.

Guy come past me (I'm in the outside lane) on the left way to close, then he is pulled over 10 mile further on as if waiting for RAC, then another 10 or so later ripps past again on my inside. Then after hitting M25 from M1 and sitting in traffice for 20 odd mile fine the TWAT is part of the collision taht is holding up the whole of the Bloody M-way (bike in one pice but lent against central reservation - bloke look fine standing next to it - 3 cop cars next to him and having close of the outside lane - no apparent other vehicles involved - ODD (at 6:30 on a bloody friday nite).

The DICK got what was coming to him.

jellison

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Monday 19th February 2007
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I so wanted to flick him the bird - but was too knackered - just wanted to sleep after hours and hours riding my fat clutch. I woul have preferred it if the bike was in bits (and he was OK).

jellison

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Monday 19th February 2007
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if you read the thread - you can work it out that he was driving like a TW&T - he was asking for it - you really think I was hanging about when he came past me almost taking the paint off.

Trust me I love bikes - never watch F1 anymore MotoGP only thing I watch in real time now.


Edited by jellison on Monday 19th February 15:56

jellison

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Monday 19th February 2007
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dazren said:
jellison said:
I so wanted to flick him the bird - but was too knackered - just wanted to sleep after hours and hours riding my fat clutch.

Should you have been driving? Were you startled by/unprepared for the undertake? due to perhaps not checking mirrors enough for faster traffic?

Peoples opinion varies but IMHO with a fast bike it's better to do the overtake very quickly and slow back down once clear and thus reduce the potential for lane drift caused by car/lorry driver inattention.

DAZ

(Just trying to point out two sides etc.)
I take you point. He was going to get involved in something sooner or later.
And it was 40 - 50 miles later. Must have snarled up a 10th of teh M25 in one direction, on a friday night.

Anyway.............

Pity about Hopper but I an sure he will be fine come the first race. Love to see Suzuki winning again or Kenny Jr.

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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You don't F*cking get it do you - no biker HAS to under take! If they choose to when a car is doing a good speed in the outside lane and all lane are pretty full then that make him the reckless one. So you expect the whole outside lane to be free for bikers now.

Can someone close this thread - JESUS!

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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You know me mate - chill out - that is the total opposite of me.

How do I become a moderator?

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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The M1 was pretty full and at that point the lanes are not that wide - (30ish miles up from the M25), so not much gap to go through so pretty much on the white line but damn close to my front wing.

It may well have not been his fault later on just odd that in 4 times I say him, 2 he under took when the traffic was going at a good old rate with me in the outside lane, 1 standing by bike waiting for RAC - odd, then 10 min later undertaking again - then again casually standing by his bike with cops all around him and the outside lane of the M25 near Weybridge junction closed (no other car at the scene - excluding 3 cop cars), with 15+ mile tailback!

Most bikers - I would have had the first over take and then never seen the guy again - that is the odd thing......

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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Ya maybe - all very strange. Think I stick to cars for now.

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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yellowvette said:
Yes mate, I do get it: You drive a car but think you know exactly how a bike should be ridden. Then you come on here and have a rant about a biker doing what I'm sure plenty of people on here have done themselves. Namely, gone a little quicker than the speed limit, and passed on the left when the car in front is not doing the decent thing and moving over to allow him through. JESUS - as you say.
No-one but you saw the guys riding, and even you didn't see the incident. You seem to think that him stopping at the side of the road makes him and even bigger ascensorede, and you seem to think people on here - most of us bikers - and going to blindly accept that you are unquestionably right.
I was merely playing Devils advocate and pointing out how the same story could be seen from two angles. Seeing the nature of your subsequent posts and you're belief that you couldn't possibly be wrong I'd say yes please - stick to cars.
You are not reading this! If all inthe outside lane pulled over when we are doing well over the limit for bike then it would just be the BIKE lane - I have no issue with bike I rode then alot when younger.

YOU weren't there either - so get of your bloody high horse mate. Bored Bored Bored - there must be a way to stop your own threads! Or at least not see them.

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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You should get and R1 Steve.

jellison

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Tuesday 20th February 2007
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Twit said:
Steve_T said:
Clarkson summed this up on a recent TG. If there's room to undertake then there's room to move over. This applies whether a bike or car is being held up. If someone wants to go faster than you, just more over and let them get on with it.

Steve.


Different with bikes though. I've seen situations where a car in the middle lane is doing over the limit and being overtaken by a car in the fast lane and then a bike going between the two. In that situation I'd say, as a very committed biker, that the biker is a nob. Simple as.

In the case of this thread there are two sides, don't know speeds, situations etc, but not all drivers are bad and not all bikers are good.
Just pointing out my side - been tracking all day and hardly hanging about (easily fastest car at Mallory all day) - so I think I can tell ODD ridering / driving. I love a good race with a bike (on a nice open (private)road,(have the car to not get blown away by them).

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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So all the outsidelane should move over into the middle lane then!

And this is not a pop at Bikes or bikers - just one person, you may be perfect - other aren't.

Let it lie....

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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PhillVR6 said:
jellison said:
So all the outsidelane should move over into the middle lane then!

And this is not a pop at Bikes or bikers - just one person, you may be perfect - other aren't.

Let it lie....



When the bike passed you was there a car to your left?

Did the bike pass you in your lane, or in the middle lane?

been asked see below.

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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PhillVR6 said:
I know its been asked but you have nor answered clearly.

Now lets try again, was there a car to your left when the bike passed you? Yes or no?

Did the bike pass you in your lane? yes or no?

Does it really matter - in my lane on the left front of my car (with car to his left too) all lanes averagely full. The point is He should have just been gone not seen him 3 more times!

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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If he had come past on the back wheel I would be praising him, Star Boyz Style hehehe.

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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All lane were moderately full - but the whole of the outside is not going to move to the middle lane (for one bike) - god more people in the outside land now than 20 year ago as all car can go at a good old lick.

Let all agree then that he was a rider of outstanding natural ability and it should have been a pleasure for me to have witnessed his awesome skills.

Thisnk I will start a new Bike thread.

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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blindswelledrat said:
jellison said:
easily fastest car at Mallory all day -


*cringe*
F*ck off back to you 4x4 fleet scared you might slide of the road - ahrrr there there - get back to uss when you have something with 2 wheels or at the bloody least 2 driven wheels at the back - DICK WEED.

jellison

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blindswelledrat said:
jellison said:
blindswelledrat said:
jellison said:
easily fastest car at Mallory all day -


*cringe*
F*ck off back to you 4x4 fleet scared you might slide of the road - ahrrr there there - get back to uss when you have something with 2 wheels or at the bloody least 2 driven wheels at the back - DICK WEED.


Are you a 12 year old American Troll?
Dick Weed?
I cannot thing of a decent reply to such a tedious glib insult.
Simply quoting you acheives more than throwing insults back ever could!
If you have nothing to add but half assed comment why come onto this thread then - we were doing just fine without you.

I cannot thing of a decent reply to such a tedious glib insult. I thought it was rather good.

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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When I am older! - Trust me embarrassment is not something I suffer from.

Had some sensible questions on how the guy was riding so we could maybe diagnose whether a Tw*t or not - it really does not matter at the end of the day. Some realise that YOU can ride a Bike AND BE a Twat.

Just because you ride a bike does not make you some exemplary riding God. But because me being mainly into cars (apart from watching racing) but posting a thread on a Bike area - then surely my opinion is worth nothing.

jellison

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Wednesday 21st February 2007
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PMSL?

I is chilled dudes.

Bikes at Mallory are fantastic - but have to slow the things down with the older bus stop and the weird one on the end of the back straight.

Do the Bike ever get to user the non chicane track?
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