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Classic Chim

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Sunday 17th September 2017
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What do you specifically like about owning your Tvr. ( any model)

I'm going thorough one of those errr Tvr moments of doom and gloom laced with hope and a new lease of life,, its bust!
Thanks to having Tvr friends it's very much getting repaired but the cars not on my drive and it's been quite a feeling!
I've been thinking economics are getting worse and maybe it's time for someone else to enjoy the pleasure of my years of effort on the car as it's not easy to afford the repairs anymore.
Well a week of missing what a Tvr means to me,,,
I'd normally be going for breakfast now and meeting up with bike and car owners alike. Take the dog and roof off,you know live the dream.

That's just one thing I could mention,
It's the driving of the car though, it's not perfect, needs geo and a steering rack and chassis repairs to be happy but overall it drives so nicely I'm really missing it.
I'm working close to home so ride my bike,, at 6 am that's a fitness routine hehe so don't need the car which is nice but still,,,

People talk of Tvr as part of the family, I never look at them like that but my grandsons face said it all frown when I told him the car was 100 miles from home and broken he wasn't impressed with me, said I'm not allowed to race it anymore and I agreed, says it's for him if he gets through college,,, I've got 10 years to enjoy it then,, wink
People talk of electric and I feel very old in car terms, think I'll be outlawed but I also think the youth of today will hold a touch for these great beasts and keep them alive well after we've finished with them,, always good to have a car that's a youthful reminder of what we all were, free flowing and fast with dashing good lucks, in my case I'm lucky as I still have all these things,, biggrin
Missing my family car,,, hugely smilefrown

If your going to own it you have to be able to fix it,, so here is a young man learning a thing or two, he likes to talk cars with his school mates and even Y pieces hehe




Edited by Classic Chim on Sunday 17th September 08:59

Classic Chim

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Monday 18th September 2017
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See that's all it took.
I started my paper round last Monday hehe

I'll be able to pay for my toys in about 6 months,,, joking Anthony/Peter rofl

It's a roller coaster of a ride, that's a fact, overall we wouldn't have it any other way though.

A chap at this new job kept winking at me, I thought, what's your game... then today he asked me if I owned a blue Tvr hehe
A friend for life smile
He likes bikes,, good on him.
I handled the day better after that biggrin

It's much more than just a car,,, and not just to me.

Can't wait to get it back now,,,, thanks guys and gals thumbup

Classic Chim

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Wednesday 20th September 2017
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I remember my paper round fondly wink I'd forgot about the tips,and I used to sort the rounds out for the other boys so promoted to the warmth of the shop hehe

It's not boring, how true is that, that might be it entirely, in a sanitised world, something exciting that doesn't cost the earth, well that's a bit of a fib but who's counting.

Only when you do without a Tvr do you remember how good they are.
Ive had a long run and driven the car allover and even relied on it,, which is a total contradiction in the publics perception and still feel like it would go anywhere easily enough.
I've done a mad 24 hr drive through France 1000 miles. I get off on that sort of hardcore driving, steady 80 mph, stopping every 2/3 hrs for a rest, my endurance endeavour, loved it.
Driving through the night on smooth roads,,, waking up Reims at dark o'clock rumbling through, then driving the coastal road around to St Tropez.
Most people might never be so lucky when you think about how many Tvr even exist let alone get driven around France.
I've pushed the car hard on a drag strip,, and knackered the clutch,, 12.603 it was worth it and considering my induction set up, a blinding fast time, slowed by tyre rub too hehe

Cars been away before but only this time I've considered it more, what it means to me etc,
It's helped me forget some things for some moments,,, many moments, driving it even really slowly which is like all the time to be honest takes such focus and feel I get transported into another dimension, one I know well from a young age onwards, all the life weight lifts away and the Tvr experience is the only car experience I've had that resembles brutal bare assed motorbikes of old, just angry and able to chuck you off at will if treated badly, needs huge balls and respect to master and even then you can't be sure,,,
That's what my car used to be like, now I have Rainsport 3 tyre's it's like a go cart for grip levels and becoming very capable in most weathers.
Soft shocks so not racey but I like that too, great around town.
It's very close to what I'm looking for in the car now so it's time I took much greater care over it and stopped driving it so much.
It's now eventually becoming a toy so I can do what I see a number of other great owners doing and that's just making it better and better.
Tvr ownership when you get down and dirty with it is all about the drive, we are prepared to take them to pieces many times to achieve our own goals in that drive.
How can I have driven a car so many hundreds if not thousands of times yet always feel like it's a first,,,
I've always loved the romance of soft tops, E types etc
, in fact it started with Second World War stories of RAF pilots and two seater sports cars laden with mates and girls,,, daring everything as it might be your last day on earth,

Then how all these dare Devils became racing drivers after the war, I associated blokes with powerful sportscars as something to be reckoned with and I can only thank Tvr engineering for creating the cars we have today to allow me to still live that dream in modern times.

Wind in your hair, roof off, sun on your skin, the smell of the road and world around you,,,, if your catted biggrin with its effortless power to weight a reminder of the racing pedigree and something else close to my heart.

I'm trying to learn the drums,, the sound of a V8 is a never ending source of inspiration to get a smoother groove hehe

It's almost like the best music ever,, kinell, better not sell it then! wink

Classic Chim

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Wednesday 20th September 2017
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It's fantastic to hear so many players giving it some, pure passion.
So many of the great drummers from the states played in military bands and the like as kids so learnt the rudiments really well. And that's what it's all about.
But drums are nothing without great tune and song around them.
All the musicians were rocking there thumbup
I was outside hehe seriously one year I was in Scotland working and had been watching street performers all night whilst i was in and out of pubs, great night and we could hear it from the top of the hill smile
Massive atmosphere Richard.

I play in a band that rocks a bit hehe early days but we really get into it considering we've played only a few times together, it rumbles along with pace smile and we think it sounds ace hehe
Big job is a band,, big job.
But chemistry can't be denied and in these two guitar players who gel so well and make it easy for me to play to them means we might just work on it. I'm right up for it after 20 years of saying I'd never do it again,,, never say never.
Funny how in life you fall back on what you know to re build your mind,,,, I started drumming as a way to clear my mind from everyday grind that started to overcome me and to strengthen my back.
I've had an electric drum kit for years that I set up to help with a weak lower back, went back to basics and went over those drum rudiments again and that alone set me off on a path to drumming nirvana,,, I'll get there one day and hopefully with great musicians around me smile
Tvr are like drums,,, they really are, with a beat of their own and taking a deft touch and great skill to master,,, and just like any musical player, it's in your own hands at all times, mega concentration etc love it. How come I can't add up but can play different time signatures in music at the SAME time, say 2/4 with my feet and 6/8 with my hands,,,
I learnt drum beats by listening to the songs as a youth and only now consider the actual timing,,, mostly though if you play by feel you'll be better and it sounds more natural,
Sometimes you play lighter ( ghost notes) so regulating one hand or foot pressure depending on what's required, cymbals are awesome for dynamics Too, together with good electric guitar players my John Bonham drum triplets rip,,,, hahahah.

Just like Tvr, playing music is like nothing else. Fabulous




Classic Chim

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Wednesday 20th September 2017
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ChimpOnGas said:
  • I like the fact I drove 400 miles in mine today, I've just got in and feel perfectly refreshed
  • I like the fact it sipped half price LPG at 23.45mpg making it 47mpg petrol cost equivalent economical
  • Best of all I loved the last 20 miles down the M1 where I came upon a hapless early 1990's Porsche Carera and absolutely annihilated it in an epic 'back to the nineties' battle that left Mr Beetle Sports in no doubt a V8 (even one on gas) it mightier than any German air banger six biggrin
Hang in there and keep the faith Alun, we all have good and bad TVR days, but as I proved today the good ones always make up for the bad... and some wink
I had no idea your car was so good on fuel hehe
Thanks Dave, I've had a few moments like that, I'm now so confident I'm like the Audi A5 driver on the add biggrin it's actually my brakes that give me my cool vibe, just smile as I reckon I can out do most on the brakes let alone power to weight smile

I'm proper chilled in mine now, sort of feel I'm hitting the sweet spot slowly and surely.
New Dif introduced a new level of refinement on top of the world class feeling hehe I get from my Brembo brakes so in reality the cars never felt better, if I had just not gone racing,,, but still so glad I did.
It not often you mention your LPG fuel efficiency figures so I'll not say to much but for those that care and likely scoff 12.603 to beat... Cerbfest has got me worried a yellow Chimaera is after fast times, goodluck Jacko if your listening, 12.5 to push me down the leaderboard thumbup although that's easy at York,,, hehe



Classic Chim

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Saturday 23rd September 2017
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CanoeSniffer said:
I like the band analogy Alun.. I like to think I drive my TVR like I play my guitar- clumsily, badly, sometimes offensively, but always turned up to 11 and in my head making the best noise ever hehe
HI mike
See music is like a TVR smile

It wouldn't be TVR if it wasn't challenging, something about sticking it back together with mastic and cable ties and then wringing it's neck and having it scare the st out of you now and then, proper stuff thumbup
Funnily enough a few years ago I did some front end Chassis painting, replacing old cable ties for new was somewhat therapeutic, there's a lot of them.

A few months ago I worked out the firing order of our RV8 and played it on the drums hehe
I'm sure I had a misfire there two biglaugh

Classic Chim

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Saturday 23rd September 2017
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QBee said:
Sad to read of your angst.

I too go through these "should I sell it?" times. I was without mine for most of last winter after I broke the engine, and felt it was time to get it right and pass it on. Then I got it back, but had my sensible hat on, so trailered it over to Warrington and back for the turbo install. Good job I did - it would have broken in the Peak District in the pouring rain on the way back otherwise.....slipped a gudgeon pin after 50 miles of its first run in 5 months, and had to go straight back to base for another month and more wallet agony.

Since I have finally had it back I have re-kindled my love for it, and enjoyed a trip to Scotland in it with SWMBO.....the turbo made her love it more, not because of the extra power, but because it is so much quieter and smoother!

In the end it is so hard to know what to do, but my grandson is 9 now and is keen to get his mitts on it when I have finished with it, though I cannot see him lifting a finger to do anything on it. I thought gaining 80 extra bhp would make me want to keep it so much more....but it hasn't. It isn't a beast to drive, far from it, it is just the good handling, quick car it has always been (since Mat Smith sorted the handling back in 2012).

Keep the faith, my friend, i am sure you will soon have it back.....next Saturday or Sunday springs to mind! If another plan comes to fruition, you may have a passenger to talk to on the way down - I have offered a lift to Epsom to a guy to collect a company car.....a Nissan Leaf.

Feels like full circle in one thread getmecoat
Sorry Anthony I didn't reply,

It's a love affair after all, nothing last forever but if she's good you'll string it out for as long as possible biggrin

I'm collecting my car today.
The very interesting and great friends I've met through Tvr are very much a reason to keep it.
We all have ups and downs with these cars as in life.

This power thing,,, when you drive them as you have done on so many occasions ( which is a miracle in itself) as short circuit driving is so hard on every aspect of the machinery that power becomes less impressive, you just can't get enough of it.
I watched some 250cc cart racing with Alonso onboard the other day, that's super fast stuff and even there you can tell he's screaming for more power and speed,,, love that bloke smile

Your words remind me of years ago when blokes would talk of fast cars,,, coming from bikes I was always sadly dissapointed that it wasn't as fast as I'd expected and realised I knew a different world of power.
That's the problem, once you know fast you just want faster and it never ends.
So as I've decided that's an expensive way to annoy yourself I've settled on the power I have and just use RAINSPORT 3 to amuse myself into roundabouts hehe
Soon as it's back I'll come say hi Anthony, it's time you drove mine and gave me some feed back thumbup


Edited by Classic Chim on Saturday 23 September 07:31

Classic Chim

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Saturday 23rd September 2017
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GR_TVR said:
Good to hear it's back today, Alun.
I expect a post shortly after exclaiming you were crazy to even think about selling it!!
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Crazy,,, absolutely, sell it, everything's forsale at the right price,,, my price is 30k so I'll be keeping it then biglaugh
Here's how it gets you, been awake since 5.30 am waiting to get on a train at 11 something biggrin
Nah, got some chores first but hey proper excited, it never weakens once your hooked it seems.
Even the dog looks at me gone out every time I take her for a walk and there's no car there, I've been hearing and watching people for years now who are selling or buying and often the ones who come back to Tvr because nothing quite fills the gap, I wouldn't want to have to do that and that feeling of loss of such a great toy let alone hobby interest is something I'll avoid all I can.
Patience is a great virtue if you own a Tvr, if you don't have it you will have 5 years on so you'll be a better man for owning one whatever happens,,, hehe

Classic Chim

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Saturday 23rd September 2017
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I was aware you would be doing hospital runs Anthony.
I have to thank Peter (phazed) Anthony (Qbee) and Peters son Mike who worked Thursday night and most of today putting the car back together and a great job he did too.
Best clutch I've ever felt, no exaggeration it's about 50% lighter to press down than the one that's just come out.
To clarify this, Anthony was going to donate his old clutch for me to (get away with) but it's been binned yikeswink
So through hook and a few crooks a new Tvr Parts clutch has now been fitted. Thanks Anthony,,, he's not the crook by the way hehe
Tvr ownership is becoming more about the people than the cars,,,
Peter joked it's not bad for a Fiesta clutch which was amusing but now I'm really worried it is as how can it be so light.
Maybe I've hit on the problem, my old ( fairly new ) clutch was very heavy from day one. Something's not right but I just keep getting told I rest my foot on the pedal as that is what causes the bearing Carrier to machine the fingers down to absolutely nothing I could break the remaining bits off with my fingers! I was taught to not leave my foot on a clutch at 15 years old so I'll lamp anyone who says I do biggrin
It's fixed and seems better than ever, Peter test drove it while I followed in his mighty 5.5 Chimaera.
What an engine and suspension set up he has there.
He drove mine faster than I dare, but I drove his and just wanted more, wow what confidence it gives you.
We have a similar brake caliper set up but different discs and pads and I can confirm the DS2500 are really good on the front on Peter (phazed car)
Mine are sort of lazier when you first hit the pedal ( Brembo road pads) then the braking force starts to come, both set ups work really smoothly.
Peters felt better at proper stopping but it's very marginal as when you lock up you lock up.
I didn't so no flat spots Peter laugh but I really enjoyed hitting them a bit. Firmer pedal than mine, I'll change the fluid.
What a great day.





Edited by Classic Chim on Saturday 23 September 23:55

Classic Chim

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Sunday 24th September 2017
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QBee said:
Glad your car is back together. Well done Mike and Peter.

And glad you have a lighter clutch.
You have driven my car with its servo clutch - how does it compare for weight? And how does it compare with Peter's?

Any pics of the old clutch assembly for discussion? What element did Peter think had caused the old one to fail? Was the thrust release bearing seized.
I'd put a Tenner on mine being lighter than yours now Anthony and about 50% less pressure than Peters Race clutch with a very smooth lubed type feel.
Mike did a great job as the gears are now easier to engage and the lever Slots in without resistance. Very impressed.

I use two throttle springs and the clutch now feels lighter smile awesome.

I'll refrain from putting pictures up on here as I should show my broken clutch to the supplier for his appraisal as I can't think of what's caused this.
Although the bearing looks ok it's loose and rattles, how it operated when hot is a good question.
I've been struggling with the heavy clutch for awhile now as in traffic it can start annoying a nerve in my left foot so leaving that part of my foot resting on the the pedal is a no go!!!!
I even choose my shoes based on the type of driving I'm doing hehe

If I'd known I'd end up with such an easy clutch I'd have had this one years ago!
Early days so better let it bed in and see how it goes.

I think a little lube here and there has made the new fork arm move easier so less pressure to start with, good mechanic! I'm assuming the pressure plate fingers are less tensioned on this Tvr Parts clutch which says it's an AP Racing clutch by the way than the Clutch that came out.

I think the release bearing has been spinning on the clutch fingers for a long time to grind them to nothing. It's only two years old though. Very odd.
As I've said before and fully accept, no warranty on clutches so it's what it is.
I want to know what caused it so it doesn't happen again.




Classic Chim

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Sunday 24th September 2017
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It's such a simple operation you'd think so,,, or someone leaves their foot on the clutch,,,,
I'm starting to not care less as I've just gone for another cruise to collect milk.
And I've not experienced a Tvr with such soft pedals. It's amazing.
I've put up with judder starts as the pedal would come up in steps rather than a sound movement from very early on in its life.
Night and day comes to mind.
I'll let Anthony confirm what it's like hopefully next week end but I'm now over the the moon with how this has turned out.

Rather spookily my drivers window went up really smoothly earlier and it's not done that for sometime,,, there's a brill team down at Peters place thumbup

ETA
The new set up when the clutch pedal is fully released there is free play of a few mm, exactly as you'd expect, similar to the other two pedals.
The old one there was absolutely none, it was firm right to the top and even with your foot right off was taught,, this is what makes me wonder and has done for a long time as I work tirelessly to get my bike brakes and clutch to have just the right amount of free play on the cables, it's close to my youthful heart and I never liked this solid feel the pedal had.
The lack of wear on both pressure plate and friction plate also confirm to me the few drag runs I did amount to a few races off the traffic lights and any clutch should take that many hundreds of times let alone half a dozen spirited attempts in the correct environment.
As this suggestion that it can only be lazy driver left ft syndrome is a very real one. I'd like to point out I spent nigh on £3000 on MBE to not have to ride the ruddy clutch and when I get a you tube account I'll prove how it can drive away from 800 revs without needing to ride the clutch in second or third gear, any gear.

That's it, off me chest, cars better than ever.
Sell it, I'm mad but not nearly that mad. smile



Edited by Classic Chim on Sunday 24th September 19:34

Classic Chim

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Sunday 24th September 2017
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I'm just keeping everything crossed it lasts til the weekend biggrin
If I close my eyes it feels like the best sportscar in the world for the money, open them and it is hehe
I just hope I haven't over hyped it rofl

Classic Chim

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Monday 25th September 2017
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The irony is I set my clutch pedal really high years ago to get it fully engaged when pressed down as my toes would hit the pedal arm and annoy me, so resting your foot on it is very difficult, this wound out clutch pedal then allows my foot to slip in between the brake and clutch pedal so as to rest on the floor.

The only time my foot hovers overthe clutch is between 1st and 2nd gear when setting off as I clocked myself doing it earlier, but I play drums foot up so I don't apply any pressure on the thing. It now has free play and easy to tell if I am.
Did I mention it's like a million dollars now smile
Best mod I've done to the car and I've said that a few times.
Tvr Servicing should set up as they do a damn fine job smile

Classic Chim

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Monday 25th September 2017
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And that clutch looks like new compared to mine frown