Replacement/rebuilt engines -eg Powers Taraka and V8D 5l

Replacement/rebuilt engines -eg Powers Taraka and V8D 5l

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HiAsAKite

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Saturday 16th June 2018
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Folks,

Contemplating the prospect of getting my engine rebuilt in my Chimaera,which is currently a 4l.
I have had (and enjoyed!) this car for over a decade.

With rebuilding, come the options of rebuilding it as with a little more oomph..


I note that common engine rebuilders/builders include TVRPower , John Eales and V8 Developments.

I'm considering going for a good 5l or 5l plus options (realistically - had I had the funds when I bought my 4l a decade ago, I would have gone for a 4.5 or 5l, but I didn't back then).

as examples:
TVRpower do a 4/4.5 to 5l upgrade, plus also a 5l Taraka
V8D do various flavours of 5l and 5.4l

I need the car to be driveable in traffic (ie manageable at low revs), and reliable, but otherwise keen to get a 'significant step up' on what I currently have (last rolling roaded at 220BHP@fly)

Grateful for peoples thoughts on the various options, and feedback, good and bad (please PM me if you need to - I appreciate name and shame rules may prevent sharing bad experiences).

Ta :-)

HiAsAKite

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Sunday 17th June 2018
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Fair comments.

My take is that the cost of a straight rebuild (which includes engine out etc) is already committed....ie I am expecting I will have to pull the engine out and rebuild it.
I will be paying someone to do this, so this spend is mentally committed.

Assuming this is the case , then the additional cost of rebuilding to a 4.5, 5, 5.4 etc are incremental to a base cost of 4.5-6k anyway...

...major case of man maths.. but if I keep the car another decade the additional cost of a few extra k on the rebuild , over time, is not that much...

Hence looking at options :-)

HiAsAKite

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Sunday 17th June 2018
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John.. who did your rebuild and blower? (Assume you meant a supercharger)

HiAsAKite

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Tuesday 19th June 2018
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Wow.. what a response, and food for thought.

Thanks for the offers of passenger rides to get a feel for some of the options.. Would love to take you up, I suspect time constraint realities of work/family etc may preclude this ...at least for a while..

A few people questioned what the budget is, or could be. My starting point is that I am expecting an engine out rebuild will be needed (I may be proved wrong...but unlikely I fear).
At this point, it's turns into a what do I get it rebuilt into.

If I was not needing to rebuild..FI would I feel be the clear winner (or sell it and buy a 500). However that is likely not to be the case..

Anyway, developments since my Sunday post.
Took it out on Monday, and at idle the car has developed a new 'sound'..(or at least it is louder/more noticeable than it was). Described by the nearest local mechanic at the time as 'sounds a bit bottom endy... ..though it might be just a slipped liner.."
Car has is now left at the nearest TVR specialist garage to avoid further damage for investigation, so will wait to hear back..

In the meantime, I'm hearing:
-turbo for big power
-supercharger for power w/out lag
-NA tuning/capacity increase to retain original character
- straight rebuild, plus possible update 14cux to something more modern/less fragile.. (though to be fair, my 4l, once I had the cam done was very drivable .... albeit it had a few electrical gremlins )



Edited by HiAsAKite on Tuesday 19th June 22:30

HiAsAKite

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Tuesday 19th June 2018
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QBee: Ok- I note in your profile you had a 5l V8D for a while - what led you to chop that in for the 4.6L turbo? Just hankering for more power o other reasons?

HiAsAKite

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Wednesday 20th June 2018
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Last point is a fair point re: additional power and impact on the driveline etc.

With this in mind probably would not want to stray too far from parameters of a 500 (which the current T5 box should be ok with I would hope).

Someone mentioned Topcats - when I looked on their site LS conversions were mega bucks (ie of the order of 25-30K).

I suspect it will be a week before I hear back on the diagnosis - which will guide the next steps beyond that,and whether a rebuild is needed.

HiAsAKite

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Thursday 21st June 2018
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OK- it's a waiting game for the moment now.

Anyone have a point of comparison between the various V8D 5L builds (they talk about different builds on their site, Warrior/Dominator etc and the Powers 5L Taraka?


HiAsAKite

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Saturday 23rd June 2018
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Belle427 said:
wormus said:
I did notice how my suggestion for an LS conversion was ignored. I love Rover V8s but cannot understand why you’d try so hard to squeeze 300hp out of such an old 5 litre engine design. Even with turbos they aren’t that great and don’t have cross bolted main bearings for making safe power. TopCats recently had a T350 with an LS7 making about 600hp for sale. Apparently it was terrifying! 400hp must be nice though.

And who’ wouldn’t want this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mJJgkVS1uJk

Edited by wormus on Friday 22 June 21:02
Probably cost and most like to keep some sort of originality.
Would love to live in America though, these engines are readily available for little money.
Wormus, this.
Price of an LS conversion is 2-3x the price of an rv8 rebuild or replacement...