So I got myself an SVR

So I got myself an SVR

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Gibbo205

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Saturday 23rd December 2017
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Hi there


So a few months ago I sold my Mustang (S550.1) V8 GT as I ordered the new 2018 S550.2 V8 GT Mustang with mag ride, A10 auto and pretty much every extra. As a stop gap I got a Golf R mapped to Stage 2 and what a fantastic hot hatch, one that could put many a super car to shame.

Then I started thinking do I want another Mustang, I love them but maybe try something different and well just over a week ago I got myself an SVR with the lovely blue with carbon pack, carbon roof and a load of other extras.

I am absolutely loving driving the car, acceleration is savage and thought I've not really put the handling to the test yet due to always wet roads it seems pretty damn good.

So today I gave the car a good cleaning:





















I absolutely love how this colour looks so bright even in the shade, it is such a bright gorgeous colour. When the sun comes out their is a beautiful pearl in the paint that really pops, once the car is professionally paint corrected and nice weather comes back I shall get some proper photos done in the sun.

I just cannot stop looking at the car when I park it up it is such a beautiful thing, and that backside, it is absolute pure sex the rear end is especially with the quad tips and carbon diffuser and big naughty wing. biggrin

Gibbo205

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MellowshipSlinky said:
Looks great Gibbo

Did you used to have a modded yellow 911?
Yes a C2S with aerokit. smile

Gibbo205

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Tuesday 26th December 2017
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MellowshipSlinky said:
That’s it - we met once, can’t remember exactly where or when (may have been Oulton Park), I had a viola metallic 996 turbo.

Anyway, love the SVR - had a nose around a Salsa red one at Sturgess Leicester a few weeks ago.
A little too rich for me at the moment so I’ll have to stick with the R a little longer.
Very nice, I was going to get an R Coupe as those were within budget to buy without needed PCP, but decided you live only once so went and got the SVR, it had to be blue and I really wanted carbon, I think at 81.5k I did quite well as the others are generally around 90k.

Gibbo205

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Tuesday 26th December 2017
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Hi there


I apologise for still using mobile phone camera but whilst the weather is shocking no point trying to take decent photos but still snapped some of the interior which is a rather nice place to be:












Car has some lovely beading going on, it had plenty of wax at purchase, but adding the autoglym super resin and aqua wax only helps further:





Still not being able to properly push it yet as am still yet to drive the car in the dry, its constantly wet at the moment. frown

Gibbo205

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Wednesday 27th December 2017
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Dat ass


Gibbo205

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Hi there


So as I have being taking more photos of the car, I have been spotting more panel gaps and for me once I spot these things it drives me mad, it has to be perfect. You could argue on a car costing over 100k it should be perfect but it does seem from the Jaguar forums F-Type panel gap, alignment is not their strong point with many customers taking cars back to dealerships to get corrected. As I did not spot this at collecting and when I informed the dealer via email a few days after to which I got zero response I decided to not pursue the matter as it was something I could resolve myself.

My biggest issue was the fact the bonnet was sitting high on the left side, so high in fact that a good 4-5" was protruding from the bumper, not as bad as it sounds but once I had spotted it, it was standing out to me like a sore thumb:




I have marked the image with arrows to clearly point it out, a good 5-6mm high on left side and not flush with bumper which drivers side is. So under the bonnet there is six rubber height adjusters I had a play with these and the best I could do was to actually rise the drivers side to match which just seemed a bit of a cheating way to do it and really the bonnet should be level/flush with bumper with an equal panel gap all the way along, this gap was equal just the bonnet was sitting high on left.
So I looked at the hinges and noticed they have stops which are bolts and I was able to screw the left side down some which helped considerably but it was still out. So I went the more risky route and undid the three main hinge bolts and tried to lower the hinge a couple of mm, this took at a lot of attempts as the assembly moves in all directions, I'd ideally recommend two people for this, but in the end I located the hinge 2mm lower, which then resulted in being two low due to leverage ratio, but I then screwed the hinge stop out a couple of turns and we are now at this:




In person it looks perfect, but now I look at photo and the left still looks maybe ever such a touch bit to high, but I can easily remedy that with just rubber stops, though it could just be the photo as now in person it looks perfect level, flush and straight, checked also every other panel gap and alignment around the bonnet as you adjust one can effect others, all I had to do was adjust front bumper out edge to left side bonnet which is easy as just two 10mm bolts. But now I look at the car and cannot see fault in person, whereas before it was starting to annoy me some.


Then a few days ago I posted this photo of the rear:




Of course as soon as I upload the photo I spot the boot is sitting high on the left, clearly whoever checked this car from factory had wonky eyes or the bubble in their spirit level was not calibrated. wink
So using the two rubber stops in the tailgate I got it level but only by adjusting the right side up which for me was not good enough. So I removed all the boot trim to gain access to the locking mechanism as it was obvious the lock needed to pull the tailgate down just a touch more. I undid the locking mechanism and moved it down a couple of mm, then re-tightened, re-adjusted the height adjusters and its now at this:




Which is now perfect level and in line with the rear quarters which is where it should be.


As a major complaint on the various forums is doors being a poor fit and even rubbing, I gave the doors a good check, but those are perfect.


Crazy that in this day and age you have to do this on any car, but the Mustang also had the same issue problem was there they were not quite as easy to fix on some, though the bonnet fix on Mustang was same as boot fix on Jaguar and just needed the catch height adjusting.



Anyway as I've still not posted a picture, here is the power plant:




Not much to look out, just a big silver square, looks like quite a compact supercharger unit. smile

Gibbo205

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Monday 1st January 2018
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Some very minor tweaking today using the two front rubber height adjusters, very happy now in person looks perfect and even the photos seem to back that up too. smile










Also found a set of the same wheels but in the satin grey for a good price, tempted to grab those, put them in storage until Winter is over and throw a set of PS4S on those.

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Friday 5th January 2018
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So as you know I was unsure on gloss black wheels, simply not my style, though admittedly when clean they did look rather nice on the car, but for me a grey/silver looked even nicer and I think suited the lighter blue colour, I think a red, dark blue and even silver would really work well with gloss black but on this shade of blue and with all the carbon fibre I was just disliking it, plus they show up dirt being glossy, great wheels for a garage queen, not so much for a daily user.

As such just picked these up, 4 brand new genuine SVR forged wheels in the grey:







I could of re-painted the black wheels, but I would of lost the SVR logos and as such I did not want to paint an original item and lose some of the authenticity of the car by doing so. As such buying another set was only the other option.
Now I was going to transfer my current tyres and TPMS over to these wheels, but I have made the decision instead to simply sell the current set of wheels, so wheels, tyres, TPMS and bolts and fit all brand to the new wheels and take this opportunity to get some PS4S tyres on the car.

Now my question, stock the car runs Pirelli Pzero PZ4 265/35/20 and 305/30/20 99Y tyres front and year.
My issue is on the rear the PS4S is a 103Y rated tyre, this is to do with loading, now my understanding of tyres is this relates to the tyre wall strength to handle the weight on that axle, I am sure the better compound of the Michelin will result in no adverse effects and even if so the car currently runs 37psi all round cold, so in theory to compensate I could maybe run 37psi front and 35psi rear. I am sure I need to have zero worries and the tyres will probably be in another league anyway, I shall also ask Michelin if they do a 99Y load rated tyre in that size.

I've also got some XFR-S rear caliper plates to cover the pad area which fit very nice, so those will go on and then calipers get a fresh painting, still un-decided on colour but thinking red, yellow or similar blue to the car.


P.S. I weighed the wheels to confirm if they are forged or not. The fronts weigh in at 12.5kg and the rears are 14kg which does indeed confirm they are flowforged wheels. A cast wheel of this size would be several kilos heavier.

P.S.1 I now have a spare set of gloss black SVR forged wheels, with near new Pzero "PZ4" tyres, TPMS and bolts for sale. smile

Gibbo205

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Saturday 20th January 2018
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Hi there


Not a lot to report, but I spotted one of the carbon vents seem to not be flush, upon closer inspection the retaining clip was missing and the plastic tabs broken. I reported this and at first Jaguar were not so interested, so I went back to the dealer I purchased from and said look it was like this at collection because the photos you sent me it can be seen:




Drivers side vent is sitting a touch high, very hard to see, but once I knew it was there, needed resolving.


Drove to Landrover Chester today, who fitted a new vent, put my plate on also. smile







Happy that is fixed, retail price is £815 +VAT per vent, crazy, obviously they do not cost Jaguar that, but it is to prevent in short people buying the parts to make a regular F-type look like an SVR.

Gibbo205

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Monday 22nd January 2018
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Hi there

So jobs done today:
- New wheels fitted and ceramic coated for protection
- PS4S tyres fitted in stock sizes (305/30/20 rear & 265/35/20 front)
- Rear Jaguar caliper plates fitted to cover brake pads
- Front wing adjusted to perfect alignment
- Thorough inspection of underside, no leaks, zero issues and signs of rust or corrosion.
- British flag valve caps added, it is the small touches. smile


Some pictures, car is not particular clean and tyres have the white gunk all over them, need to get some soap and give the tyres a good wash and then get some meguiars tyre black on the go, which is about the only tyre gel that seems to work on PS4S due to the fuzzy sidewalls they have.
















Jobs to do:
- Fit 5mm spacers all round just to push wheels out a touch, very minor.
- Fit black wheel nuts, will go better with grey wheels than chrome.
- Alignment check and adjust.
- The rear caliper plates stand out like a sore thumb due to them being brand new so glossy red and the rest of the caliper in desperate need of a refurb. All the calipers shall be re-painted in the future, either in red or yellow with black jaguar writing on fronts and black SVR logos on the rear plates, at which point it will all blend nicely.


Just me adding my little touches to the car, very minor details as the car does not need for much as Jaguar pretty much nailed it out the factory. smile

No needback on PS4S, need to scrub them in first. smile

Gibbo205

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Monday 22nd January 2018
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fatboy b said:
Looks lovely. Are you going to get the tyre fitter to repair that damaged wheel?
Its not damaged, just tyre gunk, cleaned it all off now and all is fine. smile

Gibbo205

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Wednesday 24th January 2018
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I removed near new Pzero "PZ4" J spec from my SVR as on all my cars which alarmingly came fitted with Pzero form factory all had unpredictable handling and in the RWD 911 and Mustang made them almost frightening.

In an AWD having a lesser grip tyre is not end of the world as the AWD will always do a good job at collecting up the mess.

On the F Type as all my other cars I was lacking confidence on the Pzero "PZ4" in cold wet conditions, the car when it let go was quite sudden and abrupt, of course the AWD always put it right or the TC would cut in and straighten the car quite violently. As such I always kept the TC on which as people will know in the cold and wet if you punch it hard in 2nd or 3rd in a straight line at higher RPM can interrupt power delivery by a millisecond due to TC activating briefly, even though in a straight line there was no need but the car was detecting some very minimal slip.

Also on a test roundabout, very large so room for a spin if you really mess up my SVR in the wet could enter at 38mph, at this point turn in would be met by very mild understeer if you turned in too aggressive and on exit quite abrupt over steer unless you really eased gently into the power.


Now I am on PS4S, even on day 1 with release agent still within tyres, the car just felt so much more planted and confident inspiring. Now a couple of days later and over 100 miles the release agent will of course nearly be gone.

My confidence levels are so much high I've now even started to drive the car in the wet with the DSC in the track mode setting as now even though grip levels are higher, resulting in higher corner speeds when the grip does run out the slide is more progressive and because the car is in track mode the car no longer abruptly intervenes violently, now a slide is progressive and the car does as instructed or it naturally straightens by itself depending on steering angle and throttle input.

On the same roundabout, I am yet to find the new limits, but now a 40mph entry, an aggressive turn in is met with a very direct front-end with no understeer whatsoever and the exit I can get to 75-100% throttle application with a very small slide angle without TC intervening resulting in the car just absoluteley catapulting from a roundabout in great style but still feeling very RWD which I love about the SVR, it has that RWD balance, but security of AWD to pull you out a corner when it gets a bit ragged when in the track DSC setting.

Remember my Pzero PZ4 version are only 6 months old, 7mm front and 6mm rear so they are like new, so this difference cannot be put down to replacing near worn with brand new tyres.

In short irrelevant of what magazine or video test say I simply find Pzero lacking in confidence and absolute grip levels.

I've now had Pzero on an E46 M3, 911 C2S (997.1), Ford S550 Mustang V8 and now the SVR. On every car they had an unpredictable nature in wet conditions, in the dry they were always fine, though a bit soft feeling when hot.

On all the above cars I either went to Michelin PS2, MPSS, cups or PS4S and on every single car the difference was dramatic, particular on the 911 and Mustang which can get really out of shape if you lose them in the wet, the 911 due to being rear engine and the Mustang because the S550 chassis is not the best and I am not a pro driver so I need a very well balanced and predictable car.

In short Michelin>Pirelli !!

My only conclusion is Pirelli must sell tyres very cheap to OEM's for them to be supplied on many high-end factory cars and as to why they win so many group test I am unsure as I am yet to have a good experience with Pirelli tyres.

Gibbo205

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Wednesday 24th January 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
I'm on the Pirellis and whilst the fronts are quite new, the rears are pretty low tread wise.

I always drive mine in dynamic mode, and more often than not in dynamic and sport together.

Have had a few hairy moments recently!

One other thing, purely in the course of experiments, I tried the car in the rain mode thinking it'll save me in the wet.
Well, slamming your foot down even in that mode still gets you sideways biggrin

Are your new tyres J rated?
Nope Michelin don't do J rated it seems, they are just regular versions, only rating on them is XL for extra load, they are the correct load ratings or higher which makes them fine, Jaguar said fine as did insurance.

Gibbo205

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Wednesday 24th January 2018
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fatboy b said:
Pirelli seem to be able to vary the compound as they wear. Grippy to start with then getting more and more tail happy I find on my XFR-S as they get lower. I got MPS4 on the front and very impressed. I’ll be getting a couple on the back in a few months once the month old Pirellis are done with.
Don't get me wrong their are far worse tyres than Pirelli, they are still one of the better tyres on the market but what I took off were near new, very little wear and the improvement from the Michelins is very evident. smile

Certainly finding the car more enjoyable and now confident to keep it in track mode on DSC in all weather, which the car also drives nicer in as power is never interrupted.

Gibbo205

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Monday 29th January 2018
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Just ordered myself some of those hologram door things, look cool. smile

Gibbo205

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Wednesday 31st January 2018
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Hi there

So gone from this today:



















It was a good looking car but for me I disliked the gloss black wheels and red calipers, as such I've changed both to a colour combination which suits me better. I also did small details like changing the wheel nuts from chrome to black and the wheel centre caps from red to black/chrome.

















Really happy with the result, cocked up a little on the logo as did not centre it perfectly which was a bit of a boo boo, but once the wheel was on the car cannot really tell. For now left rears blank with no logo at all, might add something or may just not bother. Was hoping to just add "SVR" to them but can only find "R" logos.

Also when I joined the M1 this morning I got flashed twice, assuming a camera but upon looking down I was only doing 78mph so seems they have cranked up the sensitivity, shall see if I get a summons as the overhead gantries were not illuminated. frown

Also polished to remove swirls from the carbon parts and added a protective ceramic coating. All that is left now is a paint correction on the painted body parts and seal. Also trip their I averaged 31mpg for whole 150 miles and return journey was a door to door average of 35mpg which I am impressed by as there was quite some heavy traffic so parked on motorway. 300 miles and still just over a quarter of tank left, not bad for 600HP near as dammit. smile

Gibbo205

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Wednesday 31st January 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Looking good.

Whereabouts on the M1 were you flashed?
If anywhere near Notts I’m afraid the cameras are switched on even when the limit is 70.
Heading towards Dunstable on M6, left M6 for a short period and then got on M1, driving up slip road, joining motorway where it is 4 lanes I moved over to 3rd gently accelerating past slower cars, spotted the flash and looked at my speedo which was about 78mph.

Gibbo205

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Monday 12th February 2018
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Hi there

Had the SVR professionally detailed yesterday by Oliver Sinclair owner of Driveby Detailing LTD in Stoke-on-Trent:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m4qrbbPQ3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQO11WsyBus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PteBokXPEvY



A full correction and 3 stage enhancement (paint cleanse, sealant & swissvax).

































Just as the M3, over the moon with the results. smile

Gibbo205

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Sunday 25th February 2018
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Well after all the recent polishing and wax for the first time I truly got to see how the car looks in the sun today and boy does it look awesome, what a truly stunning car. Also it really turns heads as well being such a good looking car in such a bright colour.

Having just enjoyed seeing an SVR in Top Gear and of course pretty much my buddies Mustang also it only made sense to post up these images I took today. smile






































Really enjoying this car and I think the small little styling tweaks have worked so well with the orange calipers, black wheel centres and lug nuts. smile

Gibbo205

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Sunday 25th March 2018
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Took the car down Litchfield imports yesterday on a GTR dyno day for a power run to see what the car is putting out:




Power and torque curves are epic, car is stock by the way. smile