Any Jag owners out there?
Discussion
And no John Prescott jokes please! 
I was Just wondering, since I currently own a Jag (old series 3 XJ6)as my 4 seater runabout, and I'm currently toying with the idea of buying a facelift XJS 4.0L Convertible for it's touring prowess.
I've always wondered why a manufacturer of such long-standing and pedigree as Jaguar has never had it's own forum on pistonheads (even if it has fallen short of it's sporting pedigree of late).
Is it perhaps because nobody on here has one?
If on the other hand there are people with experience of Jag ownership, the I'd like to hear from them.
In particular about the aforementioned XJS, and also the XK8 which is a car I'll be definately looking at in the future.
I was Just wondering, since I currently own a Jag (old series 3 XJ6)as my 4 seater runabout, and I'm currently toying with the idea of buying a facelift XJS 4.0L Convertible for it's touring prowess.
I've always wondered why a manufacturer of such long-standing and pedigree as Jaguar has never had it's own forum on pistonheads (even if it has fallen short of it's sporting pedigree of late).
Is it perhaps because nobody on here has one?
If on the other hand there are people with experience of Jag ownership, the I'd like to hear from them.
In particular about the aforementioned XJS, and also the XK8 which is a car I'll be definately looking at in the future.
a PAG-forum including Volvo
then? 
Bodo
mel said: Well I've got a lovely early XK8 that will be going in the classifieds very shortly, (service and valet first) all the goodies heated seats, multi cd, 19" alloys in dark green with cream leather will be sub £20K so sod the old XJS, XK8 ownership is getting affordable.
£20K's a little rich for my blood at the moment(£15 tops I'm afraid).
Besides I've always promised myself an XJS and a late galvanised one seems to make sense.
Does the XK8 have a Galvanised body too?
BLUETHUNDER said: I have myself metioned this in the past,about a jag forum.But to no avail. Im currently the owner of a 1993 4.0ltr xjs sport(facelift model).Previous jags have included 2 xj40 models,and until recently a 4.0ltr X300 xjr.
I'd be interested to hear your insights into running and XJS.
There's a very good Jaguar (all models) forum at:
http://forums.jag-lovers.org/index.php3
Still, it would be nice to have a Jag list on PH though!
Yeah, I've been on the Jag-Lovers forum. I find it to be very American oriented (which feels odd for a British car) and not at all in the same vein as Pistonheads.
Besides I'm sure Ted wouldn't want us going elsewhere for our daily fix.
Another Jag? VERY doubtfull... I wanted to fly the flag in Germany as a Brit, but this car is the best advert for all that Britain gets wrong!!!!
I'm in a similar position. Much as I want to buy British,
to keep the home team in paid work, my experience
is that I'd be very sceptical about another one.
Maybe a M-B C class next time.
Ah, but what about the new big Jag. You've got to admit that looks like an interesting car.
Jondokic, many people would argue your SS100 replica is as much a real Jag as the new Ford ones, it does have an AJ6 engine in it after all
Good rant John! 
Though I do take your points on board. Have things really gone so much worse since Ford took over?
Interesingly, my place of work is next door to the garage who looks after my TVR, who also happens to be an independant Jaguar specialist. Although he doesn't deal in many new (Ford) jags (as most are still under manufacturers warranty) he does deal in a lot of older ones. And in the last three years I have only see XJS's when they're in for a services and virtually never for breakdowns. Which I find encouraging.
Thanks for the info on your 4.0L Mark. You've certainly not put me of getting one.
I recall a few years ago (maybe 10?!!) I rode in a friends XJS Convertible around Scotland. We had a very good time chasing after a couple of Westfields on the roads by Loch Lomond. Whilst they has us on the twisties (although not by as mutch as you'd think) we of course annihilated them on the straights.
It left me very impressed with the car.
My only real concern now is; at 32 is a jag a little bit "old" for me?
Or am I being too self concious?
EDITED TO SAY: Wow I've just noticed we have a Jag Forum! Thanks Ted!
>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 28th January 09:31
Though I do take your points on board. Have things really gone so much worse since Ford took over? Interesingly, my place of work is next door to the garage who looks after my TVR, who also happens to be an independant Jaguar specialist. Although he doesn't deal in many new (Ford) jags (as most are still under manufacturers warranty) he does deal in a lot of older ones. And in the last three years I have only see XJS's when they're in for a services and virtually never for breakdowns. Which I find encouraging.
Thanks for the info on your 4.0L Mark. You've certainly not put me of getting one.
I recall a few years ago (maybe 10?!!) I rode in a friends XJS Convertible around Scotland. We had a very good time chasing after a couple of Westfields on the roads by Loch Lomond. Whilst they has us on the twisties (although not by as mutch as you'd think) we of course annihilated them on the straights.
It left me very impressed with the car.
My only real concern now is; at 32 is a jag a little bit "old" for me?
Or am I being too self concious?
EDITED TO SAY: Wow I've just noticed we have a Jag Forum! Thanks Ted!
>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 28th January 09:31
fatbutt said:I'm 32 and when I took the girlfriend to look at the car in the showroom her immediate response was "old mans car". 20 minutes later during the test drive she said "we HAVE to buy this car". And she's 28!
You're quite right. There is something about a Jag. And since my girlfriend likes nothing better than sleeping on long journeys, she'll no doubt be swayed by that smooooth ride.
Oh, anc ome on ESV where's that Griff XKR comparison we're all waiting for!
Hmm, had a play in a 4.0 Facelift XJS yesterday (hard-top tho'
).
Gotta say the build quality and the solidity felt absolutely superb. especially compared to my TVR (sad but true).
I can certainly imagine going trans-European in one of these.
Anyone know what the later convertibles are like for comfort/warmth/wind noise etc?
). Gotta say the build quality and the solidity felt absolutely superb. especially compared to my TVR (sad but true).
I can certainly imagine going trans-European in one of these.
Anyone know what the later convertibles are like for comfort/warmth/wind noise etc?
V12Bob said:
I have a 1989 5.3 V12 XJS Convertible used only when the sunshines, which is every weekend at the moment!
69000 miles. I drive a Merc everyday, the Jag is pure magic,there realy is nothing to compare with the beast.
Excellent! Another Bob with a V12.
I recently bought myself a 1992 6 Litre XJR-S (see profile) and I love it.
I just done a couple of trips to Devon and back in mine, and I've gotta say they really eat the miles.
The last trip took me ten hours (queing) and it was baking hot
There are some things I miss about my old TVR, but I wouldn't have wanted to do a journey like that in anything else but the Jag.
Here's a pic of mine...
www.hillsideprint.com/Pics/XJR-S%20Small.JPG
As for fuel consumption - I just tell people "It always costs more to travel first class"
>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 19th August 18:53
The last trip took me ten hours (queing) and it was baking hot
There are some things I miss about my old TVR, but I wouldn't have wanted to do a journey like that in anything else but the Jag.
Here's a pic of mine...
www.hillsideprint.com/Pics/XJR-S%20Small.JPG
As for fuel consumption - I just tell people "It always costs more to travel first class"
>> Edited by bobfrance on Tuesday 19th August 18:53
Cheers Mike!
I know a few people on this forum have voiced displeasure with their Jags - and I really can't speak for the newer ones - but my old monster feels to be bomb proof.
It's done 96K and my mechanic has maintained it from new (I'm only it's second owner) and says it runs like a Swiss watch. in fact he insists on buying it off me if I sell it.
One unexpected change is that during TVR ownership I grew used to kids gathering around the car. But since buying the Jag I noticed I now get old people poking around and peering through the windows; leaving Bovril fingerprints on the windows and shortbread crumbs on the bonnet.
Little buggers!
I know a few people on this forum have voiced displeasure with their Jags - and I really can't speak for the newer ones - but my old monster feels to be bomb proof.
It's done 96K and my mechanic has maintained it from new (I'm only it's second owner
) and says it runs like a Swiss watch. in fact he insists on buying it off me if I sell it. One unexpected change is that during TVR ownership I grew used to kids gathering around the car. But since buying the Jag I noticed I now get old people poking around and peering through the windows; leaving Bovril fingerprints on the windows and shortbread crumbs on the bonnet.
Little buggers!
Mike,
I totally understand your dilemma.
TVR's do feel special, but I found mine lacked in both solidity and reliability and as my only car that was a problem. (to be fair it was pretty well sorted & reliable by the time I sold it, but I never felt able to trust it, if you know what I mean)
I thought about keeping one as a second car but I'm trying to save money and lack garage space.
If I did I would go for an S (probably an S3) since they're cheap & cheerful to run (no offence intended to S owners) and offer loads of driving pleasure, if not comfort.
I opted for the Jag because I wanted an interesting compromise - A solid car I could use all year round, but something still a little different and exclusive.
So far I have not been dissapointed.
I agree with Unrepentant; XJS's (and the older XJ 300 series) are a real bargain at the moment.
I sold my 400SE, bought the XJR-S and had almost a grand left over!
I had a love hate relationship with my TVRs (I'm sure this is common to most owners of older TVRs), but I can honestly say there is nothing I hate about the Jag. Maybe I don't love it quite as much, but we've never had a cross word
In an ideal world I'd keep my Jag and have a TVR too for those sunny days...
...or then again I could buy an XJS convertable
I totally understand your dilemma.
TVR's do feel special, but I found mine lacked in both solidity and reliability and as my only car that was a problem. (to be fair it was pretty well sorted & reliable by the time I sold it, but I never felt able to trust it, if you know what I mean)
I thought about keeping one as a second car but I'm trying to save money and lack garage space.
If I did I would go for an S (probably an S3) since they're cheap & cheerful to run (no offence intended to S owners) and offer loads of driving pleasure, if not comfort.
I opted for the Jag because I wanted an interesting compromise - A solid car I could use all year round, but something still a little different and exclusive.
So far I have not been dissapointed.
I agree with Unrepentant; XJS's (and the older XJ 300 series) are a real bargain at the moment.
I sold my 400SE, bought the XJR-S and had almost a grand left over!
I had a love hate relationship with my TVRs (I'm sure this is common to most owners of older TVRs), but I can honestly say there is nothing I hate about the Jag. Maybe I don't love it quite as much, but we've never had a cross word
In an ideal world I'd keep my Jag and have a TVR too for those sunny days...
...or then again I could buy an XJS convertable
Get a post '91 facelifted model if you can run to it.
They're galavanised and I'm yet to see a rusty one.
Mine doesn't have a spot of rust on it, and I've had a pretty good poke around.
I've got to admit, one of the reasons I went for the V12 was because it's so immense. It's the only engine that made me giggle like an idiot just to look at it.
No cooling problems either; I spent five hours in traffic jams on the M5 on the hottest day of the year, with the aircon on full chat and it barely went over the half way mark.
I can't stress enough just how well sorted the facelifted cars seem to be.
I also think they look a bit better too (the more rounded bits, different rear lights, no window-frames on the doors etc.) but of course that just down personal prefference.
They're galavanised and I'm yet to see a rusty one.
Mine doesn't have a spot of rust on it, and I've had a pretty good poke around.
I've got to admit, one of the reasons I went for the V12 was because it's so immense. It's the only engine that made me giggle like an idiot just to look at it.
No cooling problems either; I spent five hours in traffic jams on the M5 on the hottest day of the year, with the aircon on full chat and it barely went over the half way mark.
I can't stress enough just how well sorted the facelifted cars seem to be.
I also think they look a bit better too (the more rounded bits, different rear lights, no window-frames on the doors etc.) but of course that just down personal prefference.
sheepy said:
To be honest though, this is more of an issue in hotter climates where the "normal" idle is above halfway, but (especially in the summer) it can be an issue in the UK. From what I understand, some engines are prone to being affected, whereas others seem immune, unfortunately the first you'll know is when a valve-seat drops and the engine chews itself up! Guys I know from "jaglovers" have sucessfully modified the cooling system to either monitor both banks or by fitting lower temp stats, keep the hotter bank from getting too hot.
Sheepy
An interesting point, but I don't scare that easily!
You forget I live in chilly Manchester, I'm more worried about it being nicked by scallies!
But on a serious note. At 96K with a (genuine) FSH and on it's original engine, I'm not too worried.
I gave up worrying when I sold my TVR.
And you can't deny they are bloody good engines.
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