Audi V10 plus - values, running costs, opinions!

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I have seen a very nice 2015 R8 V10 plus, and just wanted some info and opinions as to what people think would be a likely depreciation for the car over the next 2-3 years. For the same money i'd be getting a much older Lamborghini Gallardo, so the Audi is becoming more attractive, although i am thinking will it drop20-30k in 3 years, where as the Gallardo would perhaps stay at the same money or increase!?

Also, recently speaking to Audi Tech they said the v10's aren't cheap to fix, and a lot of jobs are engine out jobs, which is very very expensive. What are peoples thoughts, real world views on running the v10.

The sounds of the v10, especially with an after market exhaust is just incredible, and i am thinking the plus will be a far quicker car then the normal v10, which i didn't think was crazy fast!

any opinions welcomed,

thanks

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I wasn't hugely impressed with the normal V10, have a 911 turbo which i'll be keeping alongside the R8, so need it to be quicker ideally!

Can you buy Audi warranty for older R8's and would people recommend an Audi inspection of any potential car purchase that's not sold through Audi?

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RSbandit said:

Had a 2014 V10+ which I owned for two yrs from mid 2016 to 2018, total deprec on car was quite reasonable paid 78k originally and dealer offered me 68k as part exchange this yr. Apart from some new tyres car didn't cost anything other than servicing during time I owned it. Awesome machines and prob one of the best engines ever made, they sound superb and stronic gearbox well suited to the car. V quick also and car got alot of positive comments and attention from the general public...would highly recommend owning one.

I see that Audi main dealer have several V10+ with 12 month warranty and option to extend for 2 years after, that sounds like a safer place to pout 75k+ - just wondering what expected deprecation would be in say 3 years, maybe still get £60k or is that un realistic !?

also £5k of consumables, what exactly would that entail? My 911 Turbo doesn't cost that much per year, is the v10plus vastly more expensive to run?

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there's a 2013 and a 2015 car i am looking at, so gen 1 and 2!

hopefully test driving the 2013 car today, so will report back with my feelings on it. It's not the perfect colour / spec but is lower price and main dealer, I do like Sepang blue, but Nardo grey looks so amazing!

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Just drove one of the cars I am looking at and was very very impressed! Very quick, sounded amazing and looked incredible!!!...... now time for man maths

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If I do!

So the ceramic discs should last the lifetime of the car? Insanely expensive to replace as I have seen...

I have seen there can be issues with the Mag ride, but assume any issues would be covered by the warranty, i'd be looking to extend the warranty fr 3 years, to cover any issues with suspension, S tronic gearbox or the V10 itself...

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Very close to making my decision about the V10 plus / gen1 2013 - few things slightly holding me back, I was just wondering if the car was hugely overpriced, Parker’s suggests around £50k not the over £65k it’s priced at!

Also I wonder if it’s a good time to buy such a car with brexit looming, not sure how or if this would affect a car purchase / or owning such an expensive car.....

Seems like older R8’s loose around £4K per year - 2008 car priced at £40k

Also the car I am interested in doesn’t have the napa leather seats or the buckets, just quite decent but more normal seats, wondering if those are must have options?

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Thanks for the help!

So would you predict a £4k per year drop? So 3 years = £12k meaning the £65k car would be £53k ? Is that realistic ????

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Ah also few other questions

Can gravel / rough loose surfaces potentially damage ceramics ?

And is an R8 ok to live outside and not garaged - are the batteries crap and need jumping if not used for a week or so ?

Can they be used in snow / ice / slippery cold conditions - I know they are AWD but isn’t there a 70/30 rear bias, but tail happy in slipper conditions ??

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a bit of a spanner in the works now...

Having researched the Audi dealer in question, it seems across the board they have had awful reviews, so I am now questioning whether to spend such a large some of money with them....[perhaps their checks on the car aren't as thorough as I would expect, Audisport.net and google have both left numerous reviews saying to avoid the dealer for servicing and general lack of any support, so i am wondering if there are any issues will i get the same problem....not making me feel confident

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so how would i go about getting a PPI, who would be suitable to do it, and how would it work with regards to the dealer, will they be ok with it? would i need a deposit on the car before they'd allow it, would it happen on the dealer premises???

thanks for your help!

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Regy53 said:

I wouldn’t worry about the dealer so much you are getting a warranty

However you need to make sure you depreciate over a few years and don’t do what I did last year

Bought a 2014 v10 plus blind. Picked it up from Audi and after a few months realised i couldn’t drive it with terrible back pain. I found the plus to stiff as it was on springs and the buckets had no adjustment. The loss on that was eye watering. So if you do go into it go in eyes open for a 3 year purchase to even out the initial depreciation

Incidentally later last year I bought a older v10 manual on mag ride with sports seats and not buckets and had zero issue at all.

I can also say if you are using as a daily the interior of a gen 1 is getting very very dated. Even a 2014 doesn’t have Bluetooth streaming for example.

I have just moved to a gen 2 2015 and it’s completly different to drive and really is two personality’s with the comfort modes etc much improved imo although the looks are not as smooth

If I was you I would do my best to stretch to a early gen 2 non plus I think the 2014 autos are really going to drop as the gen 2’s come down

It won't be used as my daily, more for weekend trips, spirited drives etc, i have a V8 S4 for work/ daily

I am not sure the harder suspension will be a problem, used to drove a vx220 which was very stiff! Also the car in question doesn't have buckets. 2015 models are 10k more money, and what extra interior wise will i be getting, bluetooth streaming for 10 grand?

I am assuming a £4k per year depreciation and plan to keep for 2-3 years, I think this is realistic?

Edited by dank on Tuesday 8th January 08:44

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PompeyReece said:

Audi dealers will provide a warranty regardless of their performance/reviews.

However as alluded to, get a PPI done - any seller worth their salt and with confidence in the car will allow it on their premises.

But I'm fairly sure the AA won't do a PPI on an R8 therefore your choices are:

- RAC - £500 but you get a fully documented, written report with photographs
- Independent - £200 but usually only receive a verbal summary although likely to have more experience of R8s

Can someone recommend a good R8 PPI in South East area?

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Leagues ahead in which respects?

Regy53 said:

sorry my Bluetooth streaming was just something so basic nowadays

the Gen 2 is leagues ahead that's what i mean, but if it is not a daily then i think the gen 1 is great .

If your buying from a franchised Audi dealer, negotiate a second year warranty.

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PompeyReece said:

The Gen 2 is a completely different car to what you're looking at. Gen 2 was released in 2016 and as such prices start around £78k and accelerate upwards. Gen 2 cars are only 2ish years old so technology is more recent, including bluetooth etc.

It's a completely different version to the original Gen 1 car which was released in 2007 in the UK and received a face lift around 2012 which is the one you're talking about.

Ok thanks, yes can't afford £78k plus!

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I am very close to pulling the trigger on the V10 plus, very excited about it, feels like a proper supercar, my 911 Turbo is amazing, and ballistic fast, but i have got used to it, and want something nosier and quicker, and love the track focused R8 V10 plus, the carbon all over it is amazing!!!

can someone recommend a PPI place in Essex, Audi, VW Tec in Chelmsford?

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So i am looking at getting an RAC check on the R8, they say they do a 300 point check as opposed to Audi's 145.... they did say they only do a visual inspection, and will ramp the car up, but in reality what extra can they spot, report on, is it worth the £470!

Also, the R8 is an Audi ex demonstrator, is that an issue? Will it be harder to sell on in 2-3 years time?

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Trevor555 said:

They only do a visual inspection? Will they road test the car?

And will ramp the car up? How are they going to do that?

£470?????

That's a lot of money, I wouldn't pay that with no guarantee the RAC inspector will know his way around an R8.

Would the RAC spot previous accident repairs?

They said they would do a 20 mile road test for an additional £50, but they don't take anything apart so can only visually look at the car. They can ramp it up at the dealership, spoke to the dealer and they are ok with it.

I have been led to believe that the RAC PPI is good and worth it for peace of mind, another thread mentioned a buyer walked away from a car after the RAC report raised issues.

Surely accident repairs should be declared by the dealer?

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Trevor555 said:

If it's clear on Hpi then no, they don't have to declare any previous repairs unless you specifically ask.

So do that, ask them if it's had any previous repairs, they are not allowed to lie.

They'll probably say the usual "not to our knowledge"

I'm just worried for you, is there any guarantee the RAC inspector has seen an R8 before?

And please ask the RAC if their technician looks for previous body repairs.

Even a time served technician can't always spot body repairs, it's not what they do.

I'm sorry I sound so distrusting, I'm sure the Audi garage has a buyer that has cast their eye over the car.

But remember, mechanical faults can be repaired, a poor body repair cannot always be.

Ask the RAC if they check for such things.

Ok thank for the information and the concern!

I’ll speak with the dealer tomorrow and then the RAC and see if they will have someone who knows R8’s - or perhaps I can speak with VWAUDI Tec in Chelmsford and see if they can inspect it ?

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No I really appreciate the advice. It’s a big car purchase, a lot of money and something I want to keep for 3 years or more but don’t want to end up with a bad / damaged car.

I have had my S4 in at Auditec and chatted to the guys there at length about cars, they are all Audi Ex technicians. So I’ll give them a call and see what they suggest. Hopefully they can send someone to check the car for me, the dealer is being open and allowing me get a PPI at the dealership which I am taking as a good sign.

So by me asking them if
It’s had any accident damage and they saying as far as they are aware ‘No’ - it still might have had bad repairs ???? That then leaves the Auditec guys to spot it, if they don’t then I am screwed !?