Rover Gauge question

Rover Gauge question

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126 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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After a bit of fiddling around managed to get RG working (thanks Mark!!). RG helped diagnose the issue that was making the engine cut out at idle and being very lumpy at low revs (turned out the TPS was permanently showing 100% even at idle and on cleaning the harness connector to the TPS problem was resolved). However I still have an unanswered question. All seems well on the RG display except before the engine gets to operating temperature the short term lambda trim is off the scale showing +100% on the RH and hovering around +/- 5% on the LH. This is then expectantly flagging a RH lambda error. When the engine gets up to temperature all appears to normalise - the short term trim then goes to zero on both sensors. and stays that way. (The long term trim is always showing zero for both sensors.)
Why would the RH lambda report such a difference from the LH when the fuelling to both banks should be about the same?

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347 posts

126 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Bump! Any suggestions?

Plan B

Original Poster:

347 posts

126 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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Bump! Any suggestions?

Plan B

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347 posts

126 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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When the engine is warming up the LH lambda is swinging between -10% and -5%. When up to full temperature the LH moves to around zero and hardly moves from there. The RH initially goes +100% and flags an error but when up to temperature settles back to zero. I'd be surprised if this was switching into limp. RG is still showing fuelmap 5 and power when driving seems fine.
I'll try switching LH/RH sensors as suggested. If I remember correctly to do that I need a specially adapted (butchered!!) socket.......

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347 posts

126 months

Sunday 16th April 2017
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I'm. being a lazy boy - Just ordered a Draper lambda socket thru Amazon Prime. Delivered tomorrow.

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Sunday 16th April 2017
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Just checked and yes it is 22mm. Oh sh**. Have now ordered 17mm deep socket and will unleash angle grinder on it.

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Monday 17th April 2017
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thanks for the useful feedback clap

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Wednesday 19th April 2017
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Quick (and depressing) update.... Made up my lambda removal tool from a Draper £4-00 deep socket + angle grinder treatment and removed said sensors - both of them are well and truly fooked - for different reasons.
The one that was reading +100% on Rover Gauge during warm up phase is pretty much eaten away with heat with bendy sections of metal peeling away and the other which appeared to be working ok has got 75% stripped threads - I assume due to a previous (to me) gorilla-type mechanic.

So a final question for you guys - I've looked at replacement prices and bloomin 'eck ouch! The sensors on the car are made by Sagem (French) - any recommendations for replacements at the value/acceptable quality end of the scale?

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Thursday 20th April 2017
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I ended up buying from TVR Parts. With Owners Club discount price was better than expected.
Thanks for all the advice guys.

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Friday 21st April 2017
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Yep that is cheap. The sensor end looks different from the ones I've taken out (but they are marked "Sagem")