Are T1R's the only real tyre options for the 16" Estoril's ?
Discussion
I'm probably going to buy a car that has 16" Estorils front and back.
It Currently has old T1R's fitted that I will replace with new rubber.
They are currently fitted with 225/45/16 and 245/45/16
If I stick with these tyres the only branded matched set I can find is still in T1R's which whilst they seem ok on the TVR's I have driven I havent historically been a big fan of them finding them quite "wobbly" especially when they are fairly new.
Looking at slightly different fitments I can find Yokohama AD08R in 225/45/16 and 225/50/16. This would reduce the rear width by 0.7" but retain the rake on the car and speedo accuracy within 1% (table below - Tyre, Diameter, Height, Width, Wheel size)
I was wondering if anybody has tried this setup and could comment or if there are other options for these wheels I am missing ?
Cheers,
Richard
225/45R16 -2.8%24.0" 8.9" 16 x 7-8.5"
205/50R16 -2.4%24.1" 8.1" 16 x 5.5-7.5"
215/50R16 -0.8%24.5" 8.5" 16 x 6-7.5"
245/45R16 Equal24.7" 9.6" 16 x 7.5-9"
205/55R16 +0.8%24.9" 8.1" 16 x 5.5-7.5"
225/50R16 +0.8%24.9" 8.9" 16 x 6-8"
215/55R16 +2.4%25.3" 8.5" 16 x 6-7.5"
It Currently has old T1R's fitted that I will replace with new rubber.
They are currently fitted with 225/45/16 and 245/45/16
If I stick with these tyres the only branded matched set I can find is still in T1R's which whilst they seem ok on the TVR's I have driven I havent historically been a big fan of them finding them quite "wobbly" especially when they are fairly new.
Looking at slightly different fitments I can find Yokohama AD08R in 225/45/16 and 225/50/16. This would reduce the rear width by 0.7" but retain the rake on the car and speedo accuracy within 1% (table below - Tyre, Diameter, Height, Width, Wheel size)
I was wondering if anybody has tried this setup and could comment or if there are other options for these wheels I am missing ?
Cheers,
Richard
225/45R16 -2.8%24.0" 8.9" 16 x 7-8.5"
205/50R16 -2.4%24.1" 8.1" 16 x 5.5-7.5"
215/50R16 -0.8%24.5" 8.5" 16 x 6-7.5"
245/45R16 Equal24.7" 9.6" 16 x 7.5-9"
205/55R16 +0.8%24.9" 8.1" 16 x 5.5-7.5"
225/50R16 +0.8%24.9" 8.9" 16 x 6-8"
215/55R16 +2.4%25.3" 8.5" 16 x 6-7.5"
Im leaning to the ADO8R, they are a fair bit more expensive but I think its worth the investment.
R888R are too track focused for me. I have R888 as track day tyres and R1R for road tyres on my lotus. Both great but not what I need on a car I want more road focused and not catch me out in standing water.
R888R are too track focused for me. I have R888 as track day tyres and R1R for road tyres on my lotus. Both great but not what I need on a car I want more road focused and not catch me out in standing water.
Thats interesting.. at 205/50/16 & 225/50/16 there is a lot of choice
Premium brands with a sport type tyre..
Continental Premium Contact 2s' (£89/109)
Dunlop Sport Maxx RT (£85/98)
Good year Efficient Grip performance (£83/89)
Yokohama AD08R (£113/121)
Mid Range
Uniroyal rainsport 3 (£70/72)
Toyo T1R (£72/65)
Khumo Ecsta HS51 (£59/74)
Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125 (£67/73)
Prices from mytyres.co.uk
225/45R16 Equal24.0" 8.9" 16 x 7-8.5"
205/50R16 +0.4%24.1" 8.1" 16 x 5.5-7.5"
Premium brands with a sport type tyre..
Continental Premium Contact 2s' (£89/109)
Dunlop Sport Maxx RT (£85/98)
Good year Efficient Grip performance (£83/89)
Yokohama AD08R (£113/121)
Mid Range
Uniroyal rainsport 3 (£70/72)
Toyo T1R (£72/65)
Khumo Ecsta HS51 (£59/74)
Hankook Ventus Prime 3 K125 (£67/73)
Prices from mytyres.co.uk
225/45R16 Equal24.0" 8.9" 16 x 7-8.5"
205/50R16 +0.4%24.1" 8.1" 16 x 5.5-7.5"
QBee said:
I would buy the Rainsport 3s from that list. And will do as soon as I can man-maths the change from barely worn Toyo R1Rs.......which of course I could always put on EBay.
Ask ClassicChim for his verdict on them as Chimaera tyres. He has been running on them for some months now, doing his damndest to make them lose traction on cold wet roundabouts. And there are a number of other cars shod with them.
I love them on my Saab and Volvo. They inspire such confidence.
I've ordered a set of the rainsports in 205/50/16 and 225/50/16. that should only change the width and then my a consistent amount front and rear.Ask ClassicChim for his verdict on them as Chimaera tyres. He has been running on them for some months now, doing his damndest to make them lose traction on cold wet roundabouts. And there are a number of other cars shod with them.
I love them on my Saab and Volvo. They inspire such confidence.
Edited by QBee on Tuesday 2nd January 08:47
If they arent any good I'll come to you for a refund
So far so good.
I drove 200 miles on the t1r and have disliked them on other cars all though to be fair didnt push them hard on the Griff.
Rainsports fitted and they feel fine so far (20 or so miles). I Also had the front alignment done and it feels a lot better at speed now. What was also a lucky find was a fitter who has had and wants another Griff so he gave the car a good look over. He checked all the joints, chassis etc.. and said it was a good one.
Only point of note was the ARB brace on the passenger side rear wishbone which he noted has a small bend in it. Apparently something that happens on most and on occasion breaks completely.
Anyway.. overall a good service @ f1autocenter Colchester
I drove 200 miles on the t1r and have disliked them on other cars all though to be fair didnt push them hard on the Griff.
Rainsports fitted and they feel fine so far (20 or so miles). I Also had the front alignment done and it feels a lot better at speed now. What was also a lucky find was a fitter who has had and wants another Griff so he gave the car a good look over. He checked all the joints, chassis etc.. and said it was a good one.
Only point of note was the ARB brace on the passenger side rear wishbone which he noted has a small bend in it. Apparently something that happens on most and on occasion breaks completely.
Anyway.. overall a good service @ f1autocenter Colchester
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