Mk1 Project & Bodyshells Ringer or not?
Discussion
A question to settle a difference of opinion:
I was having a chat with a neighbour who is into his classics and wants to do a mk1 mini as a long term project.
He was saying that he would just re-shell it as the cost was viable on a Mk1, I said there are no Mk1 shells available so he'd have to butcher a MkIV/V from BMH to do it and he'd also end up on a Q plate. Either way there was no way to retain the tax status and original V5 if he went down the re-shell route.
Then he said if he used all new/reconditioned or even restored Mk1 parts even from another car for the rest of the build he could basically transfer the current Mk1 V5 over to it as it had enough "historical" parts even with the MkIV/V shell from BMH.
On a technicality I said if he basically created a Mk1 look-a-like from just certified all new parts he could qualify for a 10/11 reg through the SVA rather than a Q, but obviously no tax break.
My stance was that unless he restores the original shell or unless BMH start doing Mk1 shells he has created a ringer if he continues to use the same V5. By using a heritage shell he'll be able to recreate a Mk1 look-alike but must re-register the car.
Anyone got a definitive answer?
I was having a chat with a neighbour who is into his classics and wants to do a mk1 mini as a long term project.
He was saying that he would just re-shell it as the cost was viable on a Mk1, I said there are no Mk1 shells available so he'd have to butcher a MkIV/V from BMH to do it and he'd also end up on a Q plate. Either way there was no way to retain the tax status and original V5 if he went down the re-shell route.
Then he said if he used all new/reconditioned or even restored Mk1 parts even from another car for the rest of the build he could basically transfer the current Mk1 V5 over to it as it had enough "historical" parts even with the MkIV/V shell from BMH.
On a technicality I said if he basically created a Mk1 look-a-like from just certified all new parts he could qualify for a 10/11 reg through the SVA rather than a Q, but obviously no tax break.
My stance was that unless he restores the original shell or unless BMH start doing Mk1 shells he has created a ringer if he continues to use the same V5. By using a heritage shell he'll be able to recreate a Mk1 look-alike but must re-register the car.
Anyone got a definitive answer?
Edited by OneDs on Wednesday 7th April 11:48
Thanks we are aware that there are some very very dodgy bitsa cars about, the guy is very genuine and just wants to do a project that will have some provenance, he thoughht that Mk1 shells were available, once I said that I believe they are but not from BMH which is where you'd have to get to satisfy Mr DVLA, we got in to a world of ifs & buts.
We just wanted to be clear where the difference between a ringer and a restoration was, between us we couldn't seem to clarify what would apply in the different scenarios.
We just wanted to be clear where the difference between a ringer and a restoration was, between us we couldn't seem to clarify what would apply in the different scenarios.
Just a conversation at the moment, I suppose the best (most solid & safest) solution would be a mythical Mk1 BMH shell, failing that the most provenant solution would be a documented restoration of the current Mk1 shell. Anything else could potentially open a can of worms.
Edited by OneDs on Wednesday 7th April 17:07
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