Should I buy this L322 ??
Discussion
Hi everybody,
This is my first post in the Land Rover section, or so I think.
After many forth and back, I 99% ready to buy my first Full Fat Range Rover
Maybe some have seen this thread of mine in GG: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Most stuff I have already written there, but anyhow here it goes again.
I always loved FFRRs, and now is the right time of buying one has come
I considered many different incarnations of the L322, different engine and trim levels.
After having seen some and having spent hours on different forums and youtube, I was set about the following:
Also after having viewed and driven different ones, I realised how dated they begin to look inside and out, and how dated they feel to drive.
Not off putting at all, I really like what they are! But now I know that I'm not prepared to spend £25-30k on one (I'm in Switzerland and I'm translating all numbers to old money). I set my the maximum amount I'm comfortable with spending on a L322 at £15k.
So, a long story short, I set my eyes on this beauty:
She's a 2010 3.6 TDV8 Vogue with the facelifted interior. Westminster Blue (I think) with navy interior.
With rear entertainment and 4 zone climate control, as well as seat ventilation she is good equipped but unfortunately has no BLIS or 360° camera system.
In her almost 10 years she has done 70k miles, which I deem as perfect, since @7k p.a. it indicated regular use, but not excessive.
It also hopefully buys me some time re the EGR and DPF (@90k, hopefully); air suspension and bushes (@100k, hopefully); transmission (@120k miles, hopefully).
The paintwork is by no means perfect, but good enough for what I want (a small blemish at the right corner of the bumper gets painted and the car polished). But I want a car I need not worry about in the carpark and not a show queen! Also looking a bit beaten up adds character to one of these!
The interior is in reasonably good condition, and will shine when I spent a day going over it with a tooth brush. The gorgeous navy leather wears much better than the light ones I've seen. The same day I was viewing one with half the miles and sand interior that looked far, far worse!
Now I just need you to push me over the 100% certain barrier, so that I phone the dealer first thing tomorrow and buy this beauty!!
Any comment welcome!
This is my first post in the Land Rover section, or so I think.
After many forth and back, I 99% ready to buy my first Full Fat Range Rover
Maybe some have seen this thread of mine in GG: https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Most stuff I have already written there, but anyhow here it goes again.
I always loved FFRRs, and now is the right time of buying one has come
I considered many different incarnations of the L322, different engine and trim levels.
After having seen some and having spent hours on different forums and youtube, I was set about the following:
- '07 onward
- not black, white, silver (actually only darker or lighter shades of green or dark blue)
- no tinted windows
Also after having viewed and driven different ones, I realised how dated they begin to look inside and out, and how dated they feel to drive.
Not off putting at all, I really like what they are! But now I know that I'm not prepared to spend £25-30k on one (I'm in Switzerland and I'm translating all numbers to old money). I set my the maximum amount I'm comfortable with spending on a L322 at £15k.
So, a long story short, I set my eyes on this beauty:
She's a 2010 3.6 TDV8 Vogue with the facelifted interior. Westminster Blue (I think) with navy interior.
With rear entertainment and 4 zone climate control, as well as seat ventilation she is good equipped but unfortunately has no BLIS or 360° camera system.
In her almost 10 years she has done 70k miles, which I deem as perfect, since @7k p.a. it indicated regular use, but not excessive.
It also hopefully buys me some time re the EGR and DPF (@90k, hopefully); air suspension and bushes (@100k, hopefully); transmission (@120k miles, hopefully).
The paintwork is by no means perfect, but good enough for what I want (a small blemish at the right corner of the bumper gets painted and the car polished). But I want a car I need not worry about in the carpark and not a show queen! Also looking a bit beaten up adds character to one of these!
The interior is in reasonably good condition, and will shine when I spent a day going over it with a tooth brush. The gorgeous navy leather wears much better than the light ones I've seen. The same day I was viewing one with half the miles and sand interior that looked far, far worse!
Now I just need you to push me over the 100% certain barrier, so that I phone the dealer first thing tomorrow and buy this beauty!!
Any comment welcome!
Thank you all for your replies.
I have seen Harry's video at least a dozen times lately!!
Also so many other on youtube, including probably hours of Nut Jobs videos.
As I told you, the ad went live last Friday. Saturday I was viewing the car (along a 5.0 S/C the same day) and haggled the price.
I told the dealer I will think about it over the weekend and called him on Tuesday saying I liked the car and wanted to buy it, but (and now comes the but part) I want to come see it again after they fixed the broken air strut sensor. So I agreed to come by Friday afternoon. (The car is 1.5 hours away and I got a job after all)
Now an hour ago I received a call that the car was sold now ....
This is the second time a 3.6 TDV8 gets sold under my nose .... The first one having been a tonga green one.
I know this is entirely my fault. I could cry ....
I have seen Harry's video at least a dozen times lately!!
Also so many other on youtube, including probably hours of Nut Jobs videos.
As I told you, the ad went live last Friday. Saturday I was viewing the car (along a 5.0 S/C the same day) and haggled the price.
I told the dealer I will think about it over the weekend and called him on Tuesday saying I liked the car and wanted to buy it, but (and now comes the but part) I want to come see it again after they fixed the broken air strut sensor. So I agreed to come by Friday afternoon. (The car is 1.5 hours away and I got a job after all)
Now an hour ago I received a call that the car was sold now ....
This is the second time a 3.6 TDV8 gets sold under my nose .... The first one having been a tonga green one.
I know this is entirely my fault. I could cry ....
So said:
I don't know if you'd picked up on the fact that the steering wheel has been fitted on the wrong side? It's probably just a JLR quality control issue.
I missed that one.... Really shoddy build quality these....
But since the drive on the wrong side on the continent (and I'm based in Switzerland), it is rather convenient having the steering wheel also on the wrong side
After the disastrous outcome with the blue/blue 3.6 TDV8, I can't stop the urge of getting a L322!
So I had another look at the classifieds. Although not wanting a black one, I will be viewing this one tomorrow:
Much worse than a black exterior, is a black interior imho. I quite like the tabac interior, although I would prefer a burr or cherry wood trim rather than the dull (again, imho) piano black trim (already looking on ebay for a wood interior+steering wheel ). That said, it suits the black exterior. And it doesn't have tinted windows. 
Being a '10 5.0 S/C Autobiographie, it comes equipped rather nicely
It has been for sale for the best part of 4 months now, but the price has just been lowered to £17.5k (from £19.5). This isn't far of my initial max of £15k I'd feel comfortable spending for an L322.
@ 88k miles it is rather on the high side, and probably will need for a lot over the next couple of years ....
I'm full aware RE the timing chain issues on those, but at least no EGR and DPF to worry about !
I would feel rather more comfortable at no more than £15k. Well let's see how desperate he is selling, having it for 4 months now.
Now let my check my stockage of brave pills in the house pharmacy ....
So I had another look at the classifieds. Although not wanting a black one, I will be viewing this one tomorrow:
Much worse than a black exterior, is a black interior imho. I quite like the tabac interior, although I would prefer a burr or cherry wood trim rather than the dull (again, imho) piano black trim (already looking on ebay for a wood interior+steering wheel
). That said, it suits the black exterior. And it doesn't have tinted windows. Being a '10 5.0 S/C Autobiographie, it comes equipped rather nicely
It has been for sale for the best part of 4 months now, but the price has just been lowered to £17.5k (from £19.5). This isn't far of my initial max of £15k I'd feel comfortable spending for an L322.
@ 88k miles it is rather on the high side, and probably will need for a lot over the next couple of years ....
I'm full aware RE the timing chain issues on those, but at least no EGR and DPF to worry about !
I would feel rather more comfortable at no more than £15k. Well let's see how desperate he is selling, having it for 4 months now.
Now let my check my stockage of brave pills in the house pharmacy ....
Filibuster said:
Thank you all for your replies.
I have seen Harry's video at least a dozen times lately!!
Also so many other on youtube, including probably hours of Nut Jobs videos.
As I told you, the ad went live last Friday. Saturday I was viewing the car (along a 5.0 S/C the same day) and haggled the price.
I told the dealer I will think about it over the weekend and called him on Tuesday saying I liked the car and wanted to buy it, but (and now comes the but part) I want to come see it again after they fixed the broken air strut sensor. So I agreed to come by Friday afternoon. (The car is 1.5 hours away and I got a job after all)
Now an hour ago I received a call that the car was sold now ....
This is the second time a 3.6 TDV8 gets sold under my nose .... The first one having been a tonga green one.
I know this is entirely my fault. I could cry ....
This happened...I have seen Harry's video at least a dozen times lately!!
Also so many other on youtube, including probably hours of Nut Jobs videos.
As I told you, the ad went live last Friday. Saturday I was viewing the car (along a 5.0 S/C the same day) and haggled the price.
I told the dealer I will think about it over the weekend and called him on Tuesday saying I liked the car and wanted to buy it, but (and now comes the but part) I want to come see it again after they fixed the broken air strut sensor. So I agreed to come by Friday afternoon. (The car is 1.5 hours away and I got a job after all)
Now an hour ago I received a call that the car was sold now ....
This is the second time a 3.6 TDV8 gets sold under my nose .... The first one having been a tonga green one.
I know this is entirely my fault. I could cry ....
But the new one also has a proper gear lever
AFAIK with the L322 only the 4.4 TDV8 with the 8 speed box (ZF28HP, or something) had the rotary gear selector. The 6 speed (ZF26HPX) that came with the 5.0 S/C alays had a proper lever
The issue with the 5.0 S/C (up until 2014 or something) is the timing chain guides that can break.
As with the M96 Porsche engine (you should know best, ATM) there is a big debate about the percentages of failure. It sure is not 100%!
I heard if you catch it the right time, i.e. when the engine starts rattling, it is a £4-5k job to fit new uprated metal chain guides.
If the guides fail ultimately and the pistons make contact with the valves, I don't know what the cost will be.
Having had a B6 Audi S4 with exactly the same potential timing chain guides issue, and now a 997.1 C2, an engine that grenades itself due tue IMS and bore scoring (or so the internet tells me), it would somehow dull for me not buy a problematic 5.0 V8 S/C
As with the M96 Porsche engine (you should know best, ATM) there is a big debate about the percentages of failure. It sure is not 100%!
I heard if you catch it the right time, i.e. when the engine starts rattling, it is a £4-5k job to fit new uprated metal chain guides.
If the guides fail ultimately and the pistons make contact with the valves, I don't know what the cost will be.
Having had a B6 Audi S4 with exactly the same potential timing chain guides issue, and now a 997.1 C2, an engine that grenades itself due tue IMS and bore scoring (or so the internet tells me), it would somehow dull for me not buy a problematic 5.0 V8 S/C
It's me again !!! (the guy who simply doesn't get a damn L322 bought 
)
Well, the whole buying process turns out to be really difficult ....
My other cars before, where always the first ones I have driven, that I bought in the end:
I know that it doesn't help, that no one in the family wants one. I also have decided to keep the Mini for the moment being, so to keep the OH happy and so she doesn't have to drive the hopefully coming soon L322
Now for a short update: I went to view and drive the 2010 5.0 Autobiography I have posted earlier.
I really liked the interior and the car itself. It drove beautifully and the only point on the car I could find where the following:
Now the big gap in service history worries me a little, but the car drove really nice and I still could see me buying it. I'd change all the oils and filters (including transmission) anyway.
I want let him dangle a bit and stick to my offer from last Saturday.
But I don't really like doing business with somebody who tried to pull it on me and misrepresents the car in the advert.
But in the meantime there was an other car popping up (only yesterday infact) that caught my eyes:
It's a 2007 4.2 SC with virtually identical miles as the 2010 5.0 Autobio, but at an advertised £9k considerably cheaper.
I have just come back from viewing it and arranged a test drive tomorrow. The driver seat is heavily worn, but with no tears.
Nothing one couldn't repair with liquid leather from colourlock.
The car was rising a bit slowly compared to other ones, but I'm not afraid of changing an air compressor if must be.
What really drew my attention, is a fully stamped service book from the local main JLR dealer (Emil Frey) with not a single one missed. And that the car has only one former owner, a highly decorated medical doctor, born in 1946. Amazing what the internet tells you within seconds
Infact I have just spoken with him on the telephone, and he traded it in for a "small Discovery", because it was getting to big and he doesn't have the horses anymore to ferry along.
Well, now let's see what the test drives throws up! Wish me luck!!
)Well, the whole buying process turns out to be really difficult ....
My other cars before, where always the first ones I have driven, that I bought in the end:
- Lupo GTI? Bought the first Lupo I have ever sat in.
- Audi S4? First S4 I have driven myself, or indeed viewed.
- Volvo C30? Test drive off one, ordered a different engined one the same day.
- Porsche 997? Test drove a few 996, bought the first 997 I went viewing.
- F56 Mini Cooper S? Bought the test car (with 15 miles on the clock) on the spot. Never have been in an F56 before,
I know that it doesn't help, that no one in the family wants one. I also have decided to keep the Mini for the moment being, so to keep the OH happy and so she doesn't have to drive the hopefully coming soon L322
Now for a short update: I went to view and drive the 2010 5.0 Autobiography I have posted earlier.
I really liked the interior and the car itself. It drove beautifully and the only point on the car I could find where the following:
- Front left (smashed) and left wing camera (looking ok) of the surround view didn't work
- driver interior light was flickering
- "weak battery" warning on the display (the two former point could well bee linked to that)
- the interior needs a little going over with fresh colourlock paint, especially the drivers seat.
- the full service history (!) went only until 2014 @ 65k miles and from there on has only one stamp from a backdoor garage in 2018 @ 88k miles (so the car has done less than 1k miles in the past 15 monts)
- the car is on sale for the past 4 months, but while i was waiting for the keys, the seller phones rang with someone wanting to buy this car immediately. Also he only spoke about "the Range Rover" despite having 2 different ones. When he hung up, he told me the phone was going crazy for this very car.
yeah right ....
Now the big gap in service history worries me a little, but the car drove really nice and I still could see me buying it. I'd change all the oils and filters (including transmission) anyway.
I want let him dangle a bit and stick to my offer from last Saturday.
But I don't really like doing business with somebody who tried to pull it on me and misrepresents the car in the advert.
But in the meantime there was an other car popping up (only yesterday infact) that caught my eyes:
It's a 2007 4.2 SC with virtually identical miles as the 2010 5.0 Autobio, but at an advertised £9k considerably cheaper.
I have just come back from viewing it and arranged a test drive tomorrow. The driver seat is heavily worn, but with no tears.
Nothing one couldn't repair with liquid leather from colourlock.
The car was rising a bit slowly compared to other ones, but I'm not afraid of changing an air compressor if must be.
What really drew my attention, is a fully stamped service book from the local main JLR dealer (Emil Frey) with not a single one missed. And that the car has only one former owner, a highly decorated medical doctor, born in 1946. Amazing what the internet tells you within seconds
Infact I have just spoken with him on the telephone, and he traded it in for a "small Discovery", because it was getting to big and he doesn't have the horses anymore to ferry along.
Well, now let's see what the test drives throws up! Wish me luck!!
Thanks for the comments so far!
From what I read on here (an FFRR.com, etc.) it seems the 4.2 SC is the sensible choice buying an old L322
I'm eager to see how well it drives! From what I have read, it should be adequate.
I could always do the 6% or 10% pulley upgrade, should I feel the need for it!
Having driven the 3.6 TDV8; 4.4 TDV8 and the 5.0 SC, this 4.2 SC is the only "modern era" L322 (i.e. >'07) I have yet to drive.
From what I read on here (an FFRR.com, etc.) it seems the 4.2 SC is the sensible choice buying an old L322
I'm eager to see how well it drives! From what I have read, it should be adequate.
I could always do the 6% or 10% pulley upgrade, should I feel the need for it!
Having driven the 3.6 TDV8; 4.4 TDV8 and the 5.0 SC, this 4.2 SC is the only "modern era" L322 (i.e. >'07) I have yet to drive.
Follow up:
I didn't buy the 4.2 SC
In short, the car was properly shagged.
The air compressor was weak; the air struts leaking; brakes (discs and pads, rear and front) are shot; tires are down to just above legal limit; bodywork and interior more worn than I realized yesterday. I wasn't even interested in haggling the price. (the seller wanted to sell and was more than willing to come down with the price)
I wouldn't mind buying a car that needs some TLC either from a mechanical standpoint, or bodywork/interior. But not both together and to that extent.
I fully realize that you get what you pay for, but one is still on the lookout for the bargain of the century
The engine was smooth and pulled strong. Performance was adequate, although noticeably slower than the 5.0 SC unit.
Also I realized that I'm really after a MY10 model with the updated interior. The changes are small, but the car feels much younger!
So the hunt continuous!
late 2009-2012
3.6/4.4 TDV8 or 5.0 SC
no privacy glas
no black interior
preferably dark blue/green
preferably autobiography with leather ceiling (I'm a sucker for extended cow skin)
budget £15k (for the right car in perfect condition max. £20k)
I didn't buy the 4.2 SC
In short, the car was properly shagged.
The air compressor was weak; the air struts leaking; brakes (discs and pads, rear and front) are shot; tires are down to just above legal limit; bodywork and interior more worn than I realized yesterday. I wasn't even interested in haggling the price. (the seller wanted to sell and was more than willing to come down with the price)
I wouldn't mind buying a car that needs some TLC either from a mechanical standpoint, or bodywork/interior. But not both together and to that extent.
I fully realize that you get what you pay for, but one is still on the lookout for the bargain of the century
The engine was smooth and pulled strong. Performance was adequate, although noticeably slower than the 5.0 SC unit.
Also I realized that I'm really after a MY10 model with the updated interior. The changes are small, but the car feels much younger!
So the hunt continuous!
late 2009-2012
3.6/4.4 TDV8 or 5.0 SC
no privacy glas
no black interior
preferably dark blue/green
preferably autobiography with leather ceiling (I'm a sucker for extended cow skin
)budget £15k (for the right car in perfect condition max. £20k)
Ok, now I have gone completely crazy.... I have set my eyes on yet another Range Rover:
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|https://thumbsnap.com/9MnaOfyc[/url
It meets my requirements of no tints, and preferably green, oh and no diesel
She's a late 1993 with 160k miles on the clock.... But look at her .... This beauty could be mine for about £11.5k
I know it's completely bonkers, but how bad would this be as an L322 alternative ???
Having a classic car (a '67 Volvo 1800 S, also in green btw) I know the associated running costs....
Is there anybody out there driving one of these regularly??
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|https://thumbsnap.com/9MnaOfyc[/urlIt meets my requirements of no tints, and preferably green, oh and no diesel
She's a late 1993 with 160k miles on the clock.... But look at her .... This beauty could be mine for about £11.5k
I know it's completely bonkers, but how bad would this be as an L322 alternative ???
Having a classic car (a '67 Volvo 1800 S, also in green btw) I know the associated running costs....
Is there anybody out there driving one of these regularly??
classicaholic said:
I believe the AA drive them around a lot!
Genuine LOL ! 
Deranged Rover said:
Looks just like my old Classic! I've owned both this and an L322 and whilst the L322 was faster, quieter, better built and more economical, it's the Classic I miss the most and want to own again.
As to bills, maybe I was lucky but my Classic gave me three and a half years of reliable motoring. It never let me down, never failed to start and never troubled the breakdown services. The biggest bills i had were £400 for two air springs (just after I bought it - I didn't recognise the signs that they were knackered!) and a few hundred for a transmission oil cooler after a stone flew up into it on the motorway. Obviously there was silly stuff like the driver's door handle snapping off in my hand one day, the passenger door lock that kept locking itself and the stereo which would occasionally fall silent for a few minutes, plus there was always a switch that sometimes didn't work, or a bit of trim that fell off, or a mysterious water leak but that was part of its charm. Servicing at a local independent specialist was reasonable and parts are plentiful and sometimes astonishingly cheap (apart from the dash surround if it's a soft dash...). In fact, the only real downside was 14mpg, which dropped to 9mpg when the vacuum advance hose split!
I'd have another one like a shot.
Thanks for your insight!As to bills, maybe I was lucky but my Classic gave me three and a half years of reliable motoring. It never let me down, never failed to start and never troubled the breakdown services. The biggest bills i had were £400 for two air springs (just after I bought it - I didn't recognise the signs that they were knackered!) and a few hundred for a transmission oil cooler after a stone flew up into it on the motorway. Obviously there was silly stuff like the driver's door handle snapping off in my hand one day, the passenger door lock that kept locking itself and the stereo which would occasionally fall silent for a few minutes, plus there was always a switch that sometimes didn't work, or a bit of trim that fell off, or a mysterious water leak but that was part of its charm. Servicing at a local independent specialist was reasonable and parts are plentiful and sometimes astonishingly cheap (apart from the dash surround if it's a soft dash...). In fact, the only real downside was 14mpg, which dropped to 9mpg when the vacuum advance hose split!
I'd have another one like a shot.
Sounds good! I fully understand that this is in no way a feasible alternative to a much newer L322, but I urgently have to scratch that Range Rover itch
As always, Harry Metcalfe has a great video on these old beasts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJeCMcVIdZo
David Beer said:
That’s a LSE ? I had one before the p 38, looking now to replace my 60 th defender convertible. In the UK not many LSE.
Not yet being too familiar with the Range Rover Classic, what trim level is an LSE? I suppose above SE? Do you happen to have more info on this? BTW the car is in Switzerland, as I am.
Also I just realized why I have subconsciously been looking for classic Rangies: I have just seen "Hunt for Red October" for the gazillionst. time just the other day. Seeing Alec Baldwin being brought to Heathrow in a classic Range Rover must have triggered something
Thanks for the explanation!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
ETA: do keep in mind it got 160k miles on it!!
I realized it‘s an LWB. Would have prefered the SWB tbh.
Here‘s the link to the ad:
https://www.autoscout24.ch/de/7152708?utm_campaign...
I phoned them and will be viewing it tommorrow morning first thing....
Can‘t wait!!!!!!
ETA: do keep in mind it got 160k miles on it!!
Edited by Filibuster on Friday 15th November 19:34
Just read that one of my favourite musicians of all time had an ‘94 LSE: Mark Knopfler
https://www.lro.com/reviews/featured-vehicles/1502...
https://www.lro.com/reviews/featured-vehicles/1502...
Well, somebody must have bought it on Saturday, since the ad is no longer live...
But that somebody wasn't me... Here's why:
The good points where:
Well, I guess there is a reason a visually identical '93 LSE sold for £30k at auction earlier this year and this one was up for a third of the price....
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf17/london/lot...
But that somebody wasn't me... Here's why:
The good points where:
- the car had a full respray in Ardennes Green. Lovely!!!! Apparently the rust has all been taken care off, good!
- the leather seats where reupholstered in very high quality leather
- the ceiling was redone at the same time. All cosmetic work (exterior + interior) has apparently been done this year.
- MFK (Swiss MOT) in May 2019 this has to be done every two year
- the original service book was present, the first owner being an english lady owner with a chalet between Montreux and Gstaad.
- The english lady owner did less than 8k miles until 2000, one more stamp in 2001@22k miles and then not the slightest of history for the next 18 years and 137.5k miles, not even for the recent respray, reupholstery and service ???
- Before viewing I found out, that the car has been sold in May 2019 (just after having had the MFK) in the next village for £14.5k. Now it is for sale with 600 miles more @ £3k less?
- The interior looks great in pictures, much less so in real life. Yes the seats and ceiling are nice, but everything else is not. Broken bits 'n pieces everywhere.
- Carpets in the front footwell where not only mold, but splashed when tapping it with your hand.
- all door caskets where completely gone
- rear driver side door wouldn't open
- upper tailgate wouldn't lock
- upper tailgate's struts where shot (so the tailgate wouldn't stay open, but couldn't be properly closed either
) - Electric seats worked, or at least one way. Seat heating didn't work.
- Rear seats wouldn't lock in place an fall flat when braking hard.
- couldn't test the a/c, but from the look of it, it wouldn't work in a hundred years. also no compressor clutch can be heard.
- the mighty V8 wouldn't fire up until the third time when cold, not before the second time when warm
- Air suspension not really working in standstill, even less so when on the move. The compressor is constantly pumping and doesn't sound healthy at all. The left side never came up completely. Car wouldn't go in off road height mode.
- The mighty V8 felt pretty worn. The compression felt to be rather low.
- The drivetrain made weird noises. "Gliding" @ 40mph with not throttle was okay, but the slightest throttle input resulted in loud whine.
- Gearbox was not shifting smoothly at all.
- Brakes where ok-ish.
- Half the electric lightning didn't work.
- Last mandatory emissions test (every 2 years with this Euro 1 petrol) is 4 years old. This gets checked at MFK!
Well, I guess there is a reason a visually identical '93 LSE sold for £30k at auction earlier this year and this one was up for a third of the price....
https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lf17/london/lot...
Nevertheless someone bought the car the very same day ...
If you are handy with spanners and are prepared to work (a lot) on it yourself, it might have been a decent buy at just under £10k.
But not what I'm after...
Again, back to the drawing board:
L322
2007 onwards (idealy 2009 onwards)
preferably petrol
idealy dark blue or green
no black interior
no tints
no more than £15k (idealy no more than £10k)
I will just wait until this very car pops up and get it bought!
Just had another look on mobile.de and found this:
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
But I don't think I'm willing to get one imported to Switzerland, as it involves lots of paperwork, time and taxes!
I might consider it from a proper dealer where I could get the 19% German VAT back, but the seller (his Google reviews don't sound too promising) states that the VAT would not be reportable....
If you search for a 2007-2012 petrol L322 in either blue or green, there are only 2 apparently on the continent
The one above and a green one that is not really green ....
It seems there haven't been too many L322 5.0 S/C that where not black or the then fashionable brown. Or sans tints....
If you are handy with spanners and are prepared to work (a lot) on it yourself, it might have been a decent buy at just under £10k.
But not what I'm after...
Again, back to the drawing board:
L322
2007 onwards (idealy 2009 onwards)
preferably petrol
idealy dark blue or green
no black interior
no tints
no more than £15k (idealy no more than £10k)
I will just wait until this very car pops up and get it bought!
Just had another look on mobile.de and found this:
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id...
But I don't think I'm willing to get one imported to Switzerland, as it involves lots of paperwork, time and taxes!
I might consider it from a proper dealer where I could get the 19% German VAT back, but the seller (his Google reviews don't sound too promising) states that the VAT would not be reportable....
If you search for a 2007-2012 petrol L322 in either blue or green, there are only 2 apparently on the continent
The one above and a green one that is not really green ....
It seems there haven't been too many L322 5.0 S/C that where not black or the then fashionable brown. Or sans tints....
DKL said:
There's a huge rrc thread in the classic cars section. I have one of those, a soft dash LSE. I could use it every day but I tend not to, it has cost a fortune in rust repairs and engine rebuilds, I should have sold it years ago...
But I haven't and it drives quite nicely now. Just look for rust, everywhere. If it hasn't been apart it will be really quite rusty.
Damn you! I know that thread and I stoped reading it deliberately , but since you brought it up again I read another 10 pages and of course I have been looking again for RRC ...... But I haven't and it drives quite nicely now. Just look for rust, everywhere. If it hasn't been apart it will be really quite rusty.
http://land-gland.ch/vehicules/land-rover-range-ro...
Of course it's at the other end of the country, but being Switzerland, that is only 2.5h away
A beautiful car, tough with the cloth interior.
What is nice that it is for sale at a Land Rover specialist who really, really seems to know these cars!
After a very long back and forth, I'm the proud new owner of a Range Rover (well, new to me obviously).
After having started looking at L322 and lately Range Rover Classic, today I bought a P38
She's a 2000 4.6 HSE, one owner car with 105k miles. I got her for £5.5k.
Of course she's not completely flawless!
The headliner is sagging in the boot area and some HVAC pixels are dead.
On the plus side the bodywork is in extremely nice condition, as is the gorgeous leather!
The HVAC works perfectly and also two new rear airbag springs have been put in there for last weeks MFK (Swiss MOT, good for two years).
The Thor engine starts at the first turn and runs smoothly!
As I told you several times no doubt, I desperately wanted (no, needed!) a Range Rover!
Unfortunately no one else around me wanted one. So I decided against reducing the fleet, but rather buy the Range Rover on top.
Not having found a suitable L322 in the last few weeks at a price I felt comfortable with, and realizing the RRC really is a classic car and also too expensive for a good one, only yesterday I started looking at P38.
My best friends parent had one (also a late 4.6 HSE with the same interior but dark blue on the outside) when we where teenagers and we have done several trips across Europe. I also remember all the time it was sent to the garage to be fixed
It just felt the right car, at the right moment for the right price!
Will do a Readers Car Thread on this! I'l keep you posted!
After having started looking at L322 and lately Range Rover Classic, today I bought a P38
She's a 2000 4.6 HSE, one owner car with 105k miles. I got her for £5.5k.
Of course she's not completely flawless!
The headliner is sagging in the boot area and some HVAC pixels are dead.
On the plus side the bodywork is in extremely nice condition, as is the gorgeous leather!
The HVAC works perfectly and also two new rear airbag springs have been put in there for last weeks MFK (Swiss MOT, good for two years).
The Thor engine starts at the first turn and runs smoothly!
As I told you several times no doubt, I desperately wanted (no, needed!) a Range Rover!
Unfortunately no one else around me wanted one. So I decided against reducing the fleet, but rather buy the Range Rover on top.
Not having found a suitable L322 in the last few weeks at a price I felt comfortable with, and realizing the RRC really is a classic car and also too expensive for a good one, only yesterday I started looking at P38.
My best friends parent had one (also a late 4.6 HSE with the same interior but dark blue on the outside) when we where teenagers and we have done several trips across Europe. I also remember all the time it was sent to the garage to be fixed
It just felt the right car, at the right moment for the right price!
Will do a Readers Car Thread on this! I'l keep you posted!
You are making a very good point, So!
The size was one of the reasons I bought a P38. It is much less intimidating than a L322 or even the L405. I hope this makes the OH accept it quicker, she hasn’t seen the car yet btw
Compared to todays car the P38 looks, dare I say it, small!
I really believe this car will grow a bigger fan community in the near future, as it has happened with the Porsche 996 before.
As with the 996, the P38 has been preceded and replaced with a far more popular model.
BTW, here is a link to my readers car thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The size was one of the reasons I bought a P38. It is much less intimidating than a L322 or even the L405. I hope this makes the OH accept it quicker, she hasn’t seen the car yet btw
Compared to todays car the P38 looks, dare I say it, small!
I really believe this car will grow a bigger fan community in the near future, as it has happened with the Porsche 996 before.
As with the 996, the P38 has been preceded and replaced with a far more popular model.
BTW, here is a link to my readers car thread:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
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