What is wrong with the Ingenium Engine?

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When changing our 100 % reliable Freelander 2 recently we were faced with a dilema .what do we replace it with FL2 finished in 2014 and if you watch prices of HSE lux and Metropolis are on the up some being offered at £22k !!! Over the years we have owned lots of LR motors . All have been reliable . However when reading about our options - Evoque and disco sport, the internet is full of horror stories re the ingenium engine . Short service intervals , software issues and ballance shaft horrors . All these are off putting and so we played safe and bought a D5 XC60 . Which according to a mechanic is similar to the FL2 in many ways .
Getting to my story , my mate who runs new 4 x 4's has had 4 Range Rovers over 12 years his latest PM400 hybrid .
His wife is on hr 3rd Disco, this a 5 on a 2 litre ingenium diesel . 44,000 miles and 6months out of warranty (he is awaiting delivery of a defender 110 ) and bang a turbo lets go, drinking all the oil and damaging turbo 2 . After assessment compression in one cylinder is also down He was quoted £2500 for the turbos , so now faces a total bill around £ 10 - 12 k .
These vehicles are not cheap to buy . It is not a Dacia Duster
LR used the 2.2 in the FL 2 and early Evoque and disco sports . Really relaible , maybe a little harsh but I can live with that . harshness costs me nothing .My other choice a discovery 2.7 v6 was notorious for snapping cranks .
How can LR be expected to called a luxury car maker when the most important part is flawed . The Australians have a saying if you want to go into the outback take a Land rover . If you want to come home again take a Toyota !!
LR needs to sort unrelaibility out once and for all .

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As a faimily we have owned LR's for 20 years , quite often two at a time . My current TD5 Defender is now 17 years old . I have owned it since 2006, I have no intention of selling it . Faults needed injector seals and a pump this year . Other than that rear cross member painted every 2 years . Serviced and waxoyled by a specialist . So 17 years of cheap 30 mpg motoring , I am a convert.However on buying the LR in 2006 , 6k miles , the clutch was heavy compared with 300tdi .Told it was normal . This went on for 3 years ish say 18 k miles . Eventually a new slave cylinder fit . No difference , so specialist removed gearbox . One of the nuts from the clutch cover was missing and over time the cover had cracked causing the issue. I wrote to LR - answer was basically not our problem . A friend works at a back street garage they buy up as many jag s type 2.7 v6's as they can get at a price . Why ? they have customers waiting for engine swaps . Some years ago we bought some Jag spares from A Jag specialist in the NE .They were doing these swaps 2012 . LR should admit and really help their LOYAL customers when things go wrong beacause of maunufacturing or assembly faults . When you are buying a Disco 5 HSE you are looking north of £50k . Because LR cannot deliver cars on time people like my mate end up stuck with a vehicle that they had intended to have moved on . But what about the person who would now be in possession on my mates Disco 5 ?? Would LR warranty fully cover engine failure ? Land rover has set itself up as a premium manufacturer . From my little bits of `gossip' i would say that their dealers and after sales is lower league . Take your motor to a good specialist who will look after you .

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In response my mate has now got his 2017 HSE discovery 5 back . total cost inc engine £11500 .He wrote to LR saying he and his wife have purchased from them 3 Range rovers and Three discoveries all new . They are now looking at a discovery for defender 110 swap and another RR hybrid - total cost around £180k less trade ins .
Land rovers response ` we would offer you discounted labour ' . So he has spent circa £400k with them and awaitng to spend some more and that is their response .
All manufacturers do have issues , but as somebody else said it is how you deal with them .Land rover seem to have this high and mighty atitude that their vehicles are totally reliable when in fact they van be a nightmare . My mates RR hybrid stopped charging , when his fellow directors dash board started to flicker .When two have his staff's RR sport hybrids were both off the road with electrical issues . all took two weeks to sort , LR were so short of loan vehicles in the Leeds area my mate ended up with an XC90 .
So hybrid LR's are not from the 100 % failures above reliable , but yet their arsey customer service offers discounted labour , what £120 to £90 /hr .
Thanks , LR are lucky he would buy a Bentley but feels it is a bit rich !!!