Evoque, Discovery & similar - what proportion are 2WD?

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As the Evoque and Discovery are both available in 2WD, my assumption is that most buying or leasing will just want to get a LR/RR product on the drive at the cheapest price point, and so most you see will be the 2WD versions.

However, I have no idea if my theory is correct - is there any way of finding out what %age of those on the road are 2WD v 4WD? I suspect not, and I have failed to find anything thus far.

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CraigyMc said:

that sucks balls.

Why?

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vikingaero said:

Honk said:

You could possibly get a rough idea by searching for Evoque or whatever on Autotrader and selecting your choice of drivetrain on the drop down menu.

There are 3615 Evoques for sale on AT. 3108 are listed as 4WD and 473 as 2WD.

I imagine people are prepared to pay for #4WDpremium even if they never use it with Evoques.

Alternatively, are the vendors even aware that they are 2WD? There seems to a common misconception that ALL LR/RR are 4WD.

Regarding paying a premium - my assumption was partly driven by the fact that so few seem to be prepared to pay an extra £20 for a nice colour, and just put up with the 'free' colour(s). Shiny thing on drive, as cheaply as possible.

Anyway - as I said, it is but a theory, and I am prepared for my theory to be disproved :-)

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CraigyMc said:

beagrizzly said:

CraigyMc said:

that sucks balls.

Why?

Because the point of a land rover is that it can rove, on land.

2WD reduces it to all mouth and no trousers staus.

I'd say most LR products are all mouth and no trousers, even with 4WD

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Easternlight said:

I wonder what percentage of Evoque's ever get further off road than a grass car park?

I'd say close to zero. I don't think anyone that needs to ever go offroad would even consider it as an option.

Although, to be fair, I've just been reading up on it and it does appear to have good clearance, entry and departure angles and a 50cm wading depth, so I dare say it'd be alright if needed, perhaps tyre dependent.

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andrewc2102 said:

Don't confuse Discovery with Discovery sport.

The Discovery is a full size Landrover based on the range rover platform, in the UK they all came with low range and are all 4WD and are properly off road capable.

The discovery Sport is the same transverse platform as Evoque and E-pace (rehashed ford) and these can come in front wheel drive only.

I think actually relatively little of them were specced in 2WD, and from what I recall it's only the very low power 150bhp version of the 2.0l diesel Ingenium that that was 2wd, as a general rule the 180bhp diesels should all be 4wd.

If you're viewing a car the sure fire way to check is to look under the back for a rear diff and driveshafts, if it has them its 4wd.

You are right, I did mean the Disco Sport - apologies.

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Starting to look very much like my theory is being exposed as bunkum

Quite right, too.

I genuinely thought there'd be a lot more 2WD, bearing in mind the Evoque, Disco Sport and others seem to be more about 'having a LR/RR' rather than using it for anything that requires 4WD.

I stand corrected. (Although seems crazy to have that much extra hardware out there, never really being used.)

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camel_landy said:

beagrizzly said:

Easternlight said:

I wonder what percentage of Evoque's ever get further off road than a grass car park?

I'd say close to zero. I don't think anyone that needs to ever go offroad would even consider it as an option.

Although, to be fair, I've just been reading up on it and it does appear to have good clearance, entry and departure angles and a 50cm wading depth, so I dare say it'd be alright if needed, perhaps tyre dependent.

Don't judge a book by its cover... It might be a 'pretty car' but the Evoque is very capable and fantastic off-road.

M

Do you have first-hand experience of it off-road?

Genuinely interested. I spend a lot of time amongst 4x4s being off road, and I've yet to see an Evoque on anything softer than tarmac. Also yet to see a Velar off the road. Feels like wasted capability.

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camel_landy said:

beagrizzly said:

Do you have first-hand experience of it off-road?

Yes...

M

Good to chat. Thanks.

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knk said:

A couple of us use them supporting P2P races. They are pretty capable on muddy rutted tracks that would confound other cars. Mine does all I ask it to do and for the 90% of the time I am on-road is a very comfortable place to be.

Nice. Where do you do that? I used to go to P2P a lot, but haven't for ages. Been trying for the last couple of years but they keep clashing with other commitments. I'm in NW Wilts.

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CraigyMc said:

I only ever really drive defender 90s offroad, but when I do it's wading through deep water, driving onto seesaws and the like.
The defender is basically a tractor, but with worse panel gaps than a tractor. Love them.

I assume you don't mean the current Defender?

I had a 'proper' one once upon a time. Great fun off road, though I have to say, every other 4x4 I've had has come with more lockers as standard. I used to get cross-axled far too often when pushing it too hard and/or not paying attention (most likely the latter)

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knk said:

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knk said:

A couple of us use them supporting P2P races. They are pretty capable on muddy rutted tracks that would confound other cars. Mine does all I ask it to do and for the 90% of the time I am on-road is a very comfortable place to be.

Nice. Where do you do that? I used to go to P2P a lot, but haven't for ages. Been trying for the last couple of years but they keep clashing with other commitments. I'm in NW Wilts.

Mainly at Larkhill as it is only a couple of miles from me but sometimes down in Dorset at Badbury Rings or at Barbury on the Marlborough downs.

Thanks. Where's the best place to find the dates? Go Pointing?