Opinions on IR35 and its impact on contractors?

[HannsG]

I'm a transformation / Finance bod who contracts.

I provide services, deliver, get projects over the line etc. IR35 in my honest opinion would be a nail in the coffin of the Industry.

Good luck trying to deliver projects without key skills. Seriously...

Does this government even want business to survive or project delivery within the UK?

Edited by HannsG on Saturday 18th November 10:11

[HannsG]

Fairly shocked at the responses here. I pay enough tax as it is.

I take the risks of being on the bench, no security..... What makes you think I avoid tax?

time and effort should be better spent chasing the likes of lewis Hamilton rather than one man bands like me.

My concern is that I will be seen as a permanent employee whilst being on a project for a finite amount of time.

Typical response from permies who think all contractors are minted. Apologies if some of you felt your were entitled to more in life.

Get of your arse and go take some risks then..

[HannsG]

jammy-git said:

I run my own business, so I think I'm somewhat qualified to give my opinion.

It doesn't matter if you're on a project or not, if you fall within IR35 then you should be paying the appropriate tax.

If you feel like there are more risks involved with being a contractor within IR35 then ask for the corresponding recompense.

If it gets passed. Most definitely I'll push for 2500 a day...

Any opinions on that?

[HannsG]

mcg_ said:

Lol OP

Perhaos to earn the money you feel you deserve without avoiding tax, you should upskill or change more. Or become a permanent member of staff.

Obviously I work for free and to provide for the state. How did I forget to mention this eh?

I was offered two perm positions in current role.

I laughed at the offer put forward and they admitted they were desperate and thought they would chance it. I am suitably skilled I reckon, qualified in accounting, finance and projects etc.

The offer was a very good offer in the eyes of some or maybe the majority of people in the West mids. But it's all relative I suppose.

It's not just about the money. Working at places as a contractor you actually realise you would never ever entertain the idea of perm there. You look around, see the attrition, the politics, poor management, poor guidance for projects. And I won't even go on about the incessant moaning from permies about how it used to be. While they sit there doing sweet FA or bare minimum hours and moaning about the world around them.

I could go on and on.

I prefer being challenged. I've been senior level at perm level, to me it was not worth the hassle and I quit without a job to go to as I hated it that much.

Come to think about it. When I was a permie I had an M3, now that I'm contracting I'm happy driving a 2006 Panda 100HP.

[HannsG]

I don't think pistonheads realises how fundamental contractors are to delivering projects and getting em over the line.

Permanent staff are not capable. I see this day in day out

[HannsG]

robinessex said:

Did any of the idiots in HR, ( Human Rejects ) who instigated this, get shown the door?

HR lol... Don't make me laugh.

In one of my previous contracts, all recruitment was tupied over to a new bid winner.

It was mayhem. Contracts being changed with new rates, termination dates being incorrect. None of this pre agreed, the contracts themselves were more to do with clerical staff rather than IT project bods.

My contract went back and forth around five times before I was happy with it.

I would say when the bid winner came in around 30% of contractors walked out within a week.

It highlighted how unprepared and uneducated massive organisations are about IR35 and change in general.

Contractors are not 'play things' and like perm staff who roll over and bark as and when they are told to. Our contracts are the reason why we come to work.

If you can't get that right with a new supplier coming in there is no hope with change in legislation.

Projects will fall back and it will cost the UK economy. Guaranteed

[HannsG]

Looks like it's 2020.

Cue the doom and gloom! I'll still be contracting regardless.

fk them