Cheap boxes of A4 Paper?

Cheap boxes of A4 Paper?

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Muncher

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Sunday 19th August 2007
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I could do with 4 boxes of A4 paper to use as axle stands for my VX. Given the flat underside of the VX boxes of A4 paper are ideal for this as they have a certain amount of give in them and spread the load over a wide area. It seems a bit of a waste to use brand new boxes of paper, let alone expensive. Does anyone have any suggestions of where to buy low grade/boxed scrap paper cheaply? Alternatively does anyone have any boxes left over which can't be used, i.e. headed paper printed before you changed your address?

Muncher

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Sunday 19th August 2007
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dilbert said:
Blooming heck, use anything but a stack of paper as axle stands.
If you can't stretch to proper stands, make up some wooden boxes out of scaffold planks and seal in some concrete.

Edited by dilbert on Sunday 19th August 16:22
Lots of people use boxes of paper, I'm talking new boxes which are so tightly compacted they only have fractionally more give in them than wood. I already have plenty of axle stands, they're just not very effective on the VX as they don't have a flat top. Lots of Elise people use boxes of paper, when the car is on 4 solid boxes, there's no way it's going anywhere!

Muncher

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GreenV8S said:
Muncher said:
Lots of Elise people use boxes of paper, when the car is on 4 solid boxes, there's no way it's going anywhere!
The only thing stopping the pile of paper from collapsing and spilling the car off is the friction between two pieces of paper, and paper is pretty slippery stuff. That really does sound very dangerous indeed and I strongly urge you not to get underneath while the car is propped up on these piles of paper. The fact that other people have done it doesn't mean it's safe. Lots of people leave their car propped up on bricks too, and it only kills them occasionally, doesn't mean that it's safe.

If you've already got the axle stands then putting a timber on top to spread the load is a no-brainer.
The paper can't slip, it's secured in the reams, inside the boxes then the boxes are tightly gaffer taped up. It's similar to a treestump, only with a little bit of give in it to not damage the fragile aluminum tub.

Muncher

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Monday 20th August 2007
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I only want to put one box under each corner of the chassis!

Muncher

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Muncher

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Tuesday 21st August 2007
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More people on the Lotus forum have confirmed it's fine, under the weight of the car, they're not going anywhere, some of them have been using this method for 6 years+ and are far happier like this than using axle stands.

My Dad has apparently got his employer to courier 4 boxes of recycled paper halfway across the country smile Otherwise, Viking Direct are the cheapest at £7.99 per box.

Muncher

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Saturday 25th August 2007
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smile

Boxes faced on all sides with plywood apart from the top face then tightly wrapped with lots of gaffer tape, with rubber grippy mats glued to the top and bottom faces. They're very stable, with some weight on them they're not going anywhere!

Muncher

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Sunday 26th August 2007
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I've not needed to use them yet, but when the car is on top of them, there is absolutely no way you could push them off, even if you had 4 people pushing at the car, it just won't move.

In comparison with axle stands on the VX you have one very small point of contact with the car and as you allow weight to be applied to the triangular based stand it will often tip onto only 2 feet, or have the majority of the load on only 2 legs, this isn't very safe.