Windows 11 - lightweight? fast? and Android?

Windows 11 - lightweight? fast? and Android?

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saaby93

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Thursday 24th June 2021
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Windows 11 will be available as a free update to existing Windows 10 users - although some devices will not have the right specifications. These include a minimum of 64 gigabytes of storage and 4 gigabytes of RAM.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57598554
Why so bloaty?

11 when 10 isnt enough

saaby93

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Thursday 24th June 2021
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markiii said:
doesn't sound very bloaty
it does if you have a 40GB hard drive

saaby93

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markiii said:
saaby93 said:
markiii said:
doesn't sound very bloaty
it does if you have a 40GB hard drive
still doesn't male it bloaty just means your underequipped for that OS
there must be a way of installing about 20GB of useful stuff and the rest only on demand

saaby93

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Thursday 24th June 2021
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Is it clear whether TPM is beneficial?

saaby93

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Friday 25th June 2021
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Mr Whippy said:
Is TPM for bitlocker on as default?

Alternatively you could secure with, shock horror, a strong password.
Depends what you mean by secure and whether you want it.
If you forget your password can you still remove the HDD and install it in another machine to retrieve your data?

saaby93

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Friday 25th June 2021
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Order66 said:
saaby93] said:
Why so bloaty?
Perhaps its not bloaty at all. Perhaps MS are just fed up of people on here running free software on their old ste machines that they bought in 2004 then bhing and whining about how their brand new £4K macbook is soooooo much faster and how windows is ste.

This time round - if your machine is worth less than your underpants you can forget it.
It's the other way around
How did their machine with Windows XP and 4MB RAM and a 20GB HDD not only outperform the latest machine with 60GB of bloatware but have decent features like a virtual desktop and if necessary a task manager that could actually stop errant processes

saaby93

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Friday 25th June 2021
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QuartzDad said:
Dromedary66 said:
Didn't like the centre task bar icon arrangement and immediately moved that back to the left. Feels like they are trying to ape macOS
Apparently the taskbar can only be at the bottom now, there's 10+ years of muscle memory I'm going to have to overcome.
frown

Havent they realised that people organise these things to give maximum vertical space for documents on a horizontal wide screen LCD?
i.e. shift the task bar out of the way to the side.
Undock any undockable menu bars so they float to one side.
Kill the ribbon


saaby93

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Mr Whippy said:
For most users, they save data into cloud etc. 2FA and all that jazz. So data should be safe there
scratchchin
Didnt realise saving to the cloud (it's not really a cloud it's some service provider) was that prevalent.
Is it really safe? and secure?

saaby93

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Friday 25th June 2021
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Dont most people skip the inbetween versions of Widows
When is 12 arriving?

saaby93

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Friday 25th June 2021
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LordFlathead said:
In Windows 11 very few things will be private anymore.
there's a discussion about what should be private vs public in the honourable gent thread

saaby93

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Saturday 26th June 2021
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Is windows Xp out of copyright yet?

saaby93

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Monday 28th June 2021
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sjg said:
Had to enable fTPM in the BIOS of my AMD Ryzen deskop and it passes OK now.

Work laptop has an i7-7500U so fails just on the CPU requirement. I've had it just over 3 years.
Has anyone worked out why it needs the extra CPU requirement? It looked like it was removing quite a few Win10 features

saaby93

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Monday 28th June 2021
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sjg said:
This references a "soft floor" - your CPU needs to be on the list for best experience and you'll be deterred (but not prevented) from upgrading. The "hard floor" is it needs to be dual core and over 1Ghz, or it won't run at all.

https://uk.pcmag.com/migrated-3765-windows-10/1341...
it probably needs all its processing power to keep the spinning circle of dots going while deciding how long to wait to do the task youve just asked.

saaby93

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Monday 28th June 2021
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Gary C said:
Thought MS had declared windows 10 was the last operating system needed ?
Here we go 808 Estate




saaby93

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Tuesday 29th June 2021
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anonymous said:
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Do you have a VM that can return the TPM requirements without that being a feature of the base unit?

saaby93

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Wednesday 30th June 2021
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Nimby said:
MS have pulled the Health Checker; hopefully they are rethinking some of the requirements after so much adverse publicity.
Can we have the task bar back on the left now too please bounce

saaby93

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Wednesday 30th June 2021
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saaby93 said:
Gary C said:
Thought MS had declared windows 10 was the last operating system needed ?
Here we go 808 Estate

So apart from turning being able to turn the number up to 11, what's the advantage over 10?

saaby93

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Friday 2nd July 2021
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They're changing this too.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-57695586

Why is it your PC has run into a problem
rather than Our Software has crashed?

saaby93

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Friday 2nd July 2021
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Isnt the point of task manager that it can trap an app?

saaby93

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Sunday 15th August 2021
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If Windows 11 is that easy to hack for TPM what does it say about possibility of other hacks?