New Daily? C63 AMG 507 Coupe.... Thoughts?
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It's time for a new daily..... and what fits the bill better than a thundering V8?
Having pondered on this for a while, I keep coming back to the 507 coupe. It ticks so many boxes, I'm struggling to see past it. Mileage isn't a major concern, as my office is about 15miles away and I can work from home a few days a week, if I fancy it. Fuel consumption doesn't worry me too much as I've never owned a daily that did more than 22mpg when driven carefully anyway. My 7yr daughter loves cars and has grown up in the back of 2-door cars, so that's no bother either..... My missus would roll her eyes at any car I buy, so that's business as usual anyway.
So folks.... tell me from an owners point of view, should I buy one to run for 6K-8K miles a year? What are the good and bad points? Aside from fuel, what are running costs like? Any problems with them? Any watch outs? Thanks for your advice
Having pondered on this for a while, I keep coming back to the 507 coupe. It ticks so many boxes, I'm struggling to see past it. Mileage isn't a major concern, as my office is about 15miles away and I can work from home a few days a week, if I fancy it. Fuel consumption doesn't worry me too much as I've never owned a daily that did more than 22mpg when driven carefully anyway. My 7yr daughter loves cars and has grown up in the back of 2-door cars, so that's no bother either..... My missus would roll her eyes at any car I buy, so that's business as usual anyway.
So folks.... tell me from an owners point of view, should I buy one to run for 6K-8K miles a year? What are the good and bad points? Aside from fuel, what are running costs like? Any problems with them? Any watch outs? Thanks for your advice
Thanks for your endorsement! The heart says "do it", so now I need the head convicing with any views on scary costs / problems, etc. I've not seen any scare stories online with problems (I'm looking for the Merc equivilent of Porsche IMS issues, etc!), so I'm hoping that these are as reliable as they seem to be!
Biggest cost watchout seems to be the composite discs & associated pads, but other than that nothing is popping up. I hope a few more owners can chime in
Biggest cost watchout seems to be the composite discs & associated pads, but other than that nothing is popping up. I hope a few more owners can chime in
alexpez said:
If you get a warranty you'll be laughing (had a 2 year on my '13 plate c63 ppp car bought in '16).
I ate through the inside shoulders of my rear tyres in 6000 miles (Conti Sport Contacts), so although they had quite a bit of tread left, the camber on the rear (saloon) appears to favour eating the insides under straight line acceleration. Beware - it's hard to see this wear from a quick glance at the tyre.
Fuel tank is small, I regularly tank up before 200miles.
Not had any issues so far. I picked mine up with 10k miles on the clock, and its at 18k now. Solid every day car that you can put two child seats in the back of if required.
Only thing I wish I had is the LSD. If I switch off TC I find it's easy spin up the inside rear off corners if trying to press on.
Issues I've seen reported on occasion on the forums: Noisy top ends could be cam/lifter issues (you'll hear a ticking that raises with revs), but again, if you've a warranty they'll get it sorted if it becomes a problem. Pre 12 cars had headbolt issues (you'll be fine there).
Thanks for the feedback..... tyres aren't an issue, my current daily (400bhp Mk2 Focus RS owned from new) munches it's tyres in the same way: inner edges gone in 5-6K miles. Fuel range is 220-240miles @ around a 22mpg avg.I ate through the inside shoulders of my rear tyres in 6000 miles (Conti Sport Contacts), so although they had quite a bit of tread left, the camber on the rear (saloon) appears to favour eating the insides under straight line acceleration. Beware - it's hard to see this wear from a quick glance at the tyre.
Fuel tank is small, I regularly tank up before 200miles.
Not had any issues so far. I picked mine up with 10k miles on the clock, and its at 18k now. Solid every day car that you can put two child seats in the back of if required.
Only thing I wish I had is the LSD. If I switch off TC I find it's easy spin up the inside rear off corners if trying to press on.
Issues I've seen reported on occasion on the forums: Noisy top ends could be cam/lifter issues (you'll hear a ticking that raises with revs), but again, if you've a warranty they'll get it sorted if it becomes a problem. Pre 12 cars had headbolt issues (you'll be fine there).
I'm not sure if the 507 comes with the LSD or not, I've not seen it mentioned in any adverts so far? Was it std or part of an options pack?
Comments on top-end are interesting. Is this applicable to the 507 or just the normal / PP cars, do you know?
Thanks again for the comments. the LSD continues to be a challenge to find in the adverts. I believe it was a £1,700 option on the 507, but I'm not sure if it was part of a "pack" or not, I'll be sure to look more into it as I start to look at cars.
Interesting comments on the gearbox & software. I'll be sure to try the various modes on test drives and look into how the software version can be checked / verified. I'd expect a Merc dealer to be able to do that, but most of the cars seem to be with independants, so might be difficult check upfront.
Driving will not be m-ways. My commute is 11-15 miles (depending if Im doing the school run) along A&B roads. I expect tyres to last about as long as my RS and fuel economy to be a point or two worse, so not too big a deal. First insurance quote is £500, so not too bad on that score either.... it's feeling almost liek a sensible purchase
Interesting comments on the gearbox & software. I'll be sure to try the various modes on test drives and look into how the software version can be checked / verified. I'd expect a Merc dealer to be able to do that, but most of the cars seem to be with independants, so might be difficult check upfront.
Driving will not be m-ways. My commute is 11-15 miles (depending if Im doing the school run) along A&B roads. I expect tyres to last about as long as my RS and fuel economy to be a point or two worse, so not too big a deal. First insurance quote is £500, so not too bad on that score either.... it's feeling almost liek a sensible purchase
Andrew911 said:
Reading this thread with great interest as could be looking to get out of my 997 turbo early next year & looking for a daily (short journeys like 356) for the next 2-3 years & thinking what next. I was thinking RS5 (outgoing face lift model) or M4. But the 507 seems hard to beat at this price point.
What are peoples thoughts on depreciation? I would have thought it has classic written all over it.
It sounds like we're in a similar place! I considered the RS5, but quickly discounted it after driving a few (non-RS) A5s - the interiors are very dated and the driving position is terribly offset. It's a very old platform and the new car blows it out of the water. I considered a 997 GTS/turbo, but the time isn't right for me.... maybe next time What are peoples thoughts on depreciation? I would have thought it has classic written all over it.
For me the M4 doesn't get a look-in. The engine doesn't excite me and BMW interiors (IMO) are functional, but uninspiring.
It's difficult to say if the 507 will be a future modern classic, but I do think it's values will be stronger (so depreciation ought to be a tad softer) vs the standard C63 / PP models. My thinking is the last of the N/A 6.2 V8s ought to command something of a premium & be the more desirable models.... I might be wrong, but that's the logic I'm using to sell the car to my wife, LOL! Keep the feedback coming folks!
Great to hear such endorsements. I'm hoping to view some cars soon, although impending holiday is going get in the way somewhat 
I've seen that brake discs do last well and that replacements can be sourced outside MB for £600'ish..... I'm looking to source as young and as low mileage a car as possible, so I'm not expecting this to be an issue.
Interesting comment on overheating... is this after track use? I'd be very surprised to hear if they will overheat in normal driving, that sounds quite peculiar.... any more views on this?
I'm not against putting in a Quaiffe LSD, so perhaps that can be a price haggle point if I can't find a car with a factory diff fitted.
It's a coupe all day long for me, I'm not a 4-door fan. My little girl has grown up in exclusively 2-door cars Fingers crossed values are holding steady / creeping up, bodes well for the future!! Thanks again folks, great info!
I've seen that brake discs do last well and that replacements can be sourced outside MB for £600'ish..... I'm looking to source as young and as low mileage a car as possible, so I'm not expecting this to be an issue.
Interesting comment on overheating... is this after track use? I'd be very surprised to hear if they will overheat in normal driving, that sounds quite peculiar.... any more views on this?
I'm not against putting in a Quaiffe LSD, so perhaps that can be a price haggle point if I can't find a car with a factory diff fitted.
It's a coupe all day long for me, I'm not a 4-door fan. My little girl has grown up in exclusively 2-door cars
Fingers crossed values are holding steady / creeping up, bodes well for the future!! Thanks again folks, great info!Quick update...... I've done a deal on a lovely, 64-plate, low milage 507 coupe. I should take posession early next week, fingers crossed! It's not got the LSD, but I can live without that as it's got Harmon Kardon, full-keyless entry/go, reverse camera and the optional wheel upgrade.
Thanks to everyone for their advice, pics to come once she's safely on my drive!!
Thanks to everyone for their advice, pics to come once she's safely on my drive!!
Well, by way of an update...... My late-'14 507 coupe landed just over a week ago and the smile hasn't left my face!
The Aston'esque exhaust note is massively addictive and while it comes at the expense of large quantities of Super Unleaded, I don't care! The engine is a thing of wonder and I'm glad I took the opportunity to own one of these cars before they disapear.
Yesterday, Merc fixed a dashboard rattle under warranty and the interior is now squeak free. They also sorted the DAB reception with a new amplifier & software update. These were the only niggles I had with the car and now they're sorted, I can say it's just about perfect. I'm looking forwards to adding a few more miles to it.
It's a "last of the last" car, it'll never be repeated in big capacity N/A spec, so I'm going to enjoy it for as long as I can! Thanks for all the positive comments folks, you helped make my mind up on the purchase
The Aston'esque exhaust note is massively addictive and while it comes at the expense of large quantities of Super Unleaded, I don't care! The engine is a thing of wonder and I'm glad I took the opportunity to own one of these cars before they disapear.
Yesterday, Merc fixed a dashboard rattle under warranty and the interior is now squeak free. They also sorted the DAB reception with a new amplifier & software update. These were the only niggles I had with the car and now they're sorted, I can say it's just about perfect. I'm looking forwards to adding a few more miles to it.
It's a "last of the last" car, it'll never be repeated in big capacity N/A spec, so I'm going to enjoy it for as long as I can! Thanks for all the positive comments folks, you helped make my mind up on the purchase
trowelhead said:
Any update on the 507?
I had a 2013 coupe for just over a year loved it. (about 12 months ago)
Sold it for a GT4, that was too much for me so ended up getting an RS6 (nope) 991 GTS (lovely but very expensive) and finally a range rover sport.
I'm thinking of getting a 507 when the GTS sells... Excellent value and should hold their value well. Tested M3/M4 comp pack etc, not for me. Nor the new C63... Can't beat the C63 for value imo, and there are a couple of owners who have moved on and come back to C63s...
These are really special and fun cars, and just the right side of practical / comfy too...
Does the 507 ride harder than a non PP c63?
I wasn't planning an update, but sure, why not! Simply said, so far, so good. It's a fantastic car, full of character and an absolute joy to drive, whether mooching to work, or enjoying the performance on fun tarmac.I had a 2013 coupe for just over a year loved it. (about 12 months ago)
Sold it for a GT4, that was too much for me so ended up getting an RS6 (nope) 991 GTS (lovely but very expensive) and finally a range rover sport.
I'm thinking of getting a 507 when the GTS sells... Excellent value and should hold their value well. Tested M3/M4 comp pack etc, not for me. Nor the new C63... Can't beat the C63 for value imo, and there are a couple of owners who have moved on and come back to C63s...
These are really special and fun cars, and just the right side of practical / comfy too...
Does the 507 ride harder than a non PP c63?
The performance is simply mega. It's just over 100bhp more than my Focus RS had, with more weight, yet it feels much faster & more brutal. I love the way it looks, I can't park up without looking over my shoulder as I walk away, which says a lot. It's comfortable when driving to work, doesn't get upset in traffic and just listening to the V8 at any engine speed, is very, very pleasing.
I've had the opportunity to have some fun with it, with some friends and it managed to surprise me with it's chassis balance & poise. I thought it would just be a dragster, but it's actually got a fantastic chassis underneath it. Sure, you're got to be careful in the first three gears, but once it's hooked up, it's very exploitable & enjoyable.
I love the car. As a "last of the last" big capacity NA engine, it's a thing of wonder. There won't be another one like it and that in itself is enough, for me to keep hold of it for as long as possible.
I can't say if it's any stiffer on it's suspension than a std C63 or PP model, but I can say it's pretty stiff. Not uncomfortably so, but most people would definitely say it's pretty hard riding.
If the snow stays away, I'll be at PH SS this weekend on the 10:10 session with the 507. Listen out for it! Hope this helps
trowelhead said:
Superb update and glad you are still enjoying the car!
I read there is an "AMG sports suspension" option that adds 20% stiffness, not sure if yours has this or not, it's an option i'd look for one without, as the standard one was a very nicely judged ride vs audi and bmw counterparts!
Oh yes, I absolutely love it! I will try to post a pic or two when I get home.... as for the suspension, I'm not sure on the specifics. According to a few folks on the MB Club UK forum, there was an AMG Suspension option, but it's stated that this was only spec'd on c.4% of the UK cars. Whether that's true or not, I don't know.I read there is an "AMG sports suspension" option that adds 20% stiffness, not sure if yours has this or not, it's an option i'd look for one without, as the standard one was a very nicely judged ride vs audi and bmw counterparts!
I've done a VIN decode on my car and it's not listed, but strangely, it does list the MB part number for the front & rear springs: Front spring: A 204 321 42 04, Rear spring: A 204 324 06 04. Whether the 507 spec "package" automatically comes with different suspension, I'm not sure. It is a pretty hard ride, so I don't believe they use std C63 springs / shocks, but may be wrong.
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