Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio... reliability

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I'm about 6 months off of ordering my next motor and have test driven the Quadrifoglio and love it, it felt so put together great at all speeds etc etc. My concern is the reliability, this will be my daily for business only doing 18k mile a year but need it to be reliable (am I barking up the wrong tree?). historically I've had Audi's and currently own a Jaguar XE S, that has not missed a beat.

I have seen a few reviews that have had issues but this was when they were just realised

Looking for those of you that own one to give me your honest view.

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Thanks for feed back and great to hear as I so want to get this I just don’t want to be on the side of the road. My Jag has had a few software issues that acceptable for me, even limp Home mode with less power would no break my hart!

you note the stats for cars with issues, is there an official record of this against other cars somewhere on line, I couldn’t find it?

Thanks again

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Great to see the positivity, it has bolstered my want for it. I’m never going to have a BMW or Merc,( just not for me) so my options are limited in this class.

Thanks to all for feed back.

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I’ve decided with this feed back ( plus how impressed I was with it) that when the time comes its the car for me. It will be a 3 year contract hire so I’ll have to stick with it through thick or thin for that time.

A few light and niggles is no problem I just don’t want to be on the side of the road and missing a meeting. Recon/ hope il be converted to an Alfa fan quickly.

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ecain63 said:

It's unlikely to leave you stranded. Most people who find themselves sat in the car awaiting a recovery do so because they don't consider that it might just need a reboot. Outside the obvious mechanical failures most faults are down to software niggles and driver error. I've had a CEL 3 times in 2 years. Every time it's been down to something that I've done or not done. Simply start the car a half a dozen or so times and it'll reset. If it won't then you'll need further assistance. But at least try first.

Mechanical failures are rare. I've seen only a couple on the forums and as said above, the rest is software or user error. My advice:

Drive the car hard enough that it's regularly up to temperature. This also keeps it fit and healthy in my opinion.

Make sure you clean the windscreen and sensors / radar regularly. A common dashboard message is the collision control or active headlights unavailable. This is usually down to dirty sensory equipment.

Super unleaded is key. I use shell nitro plus for every 5 tanks of Tesco momentum. Momentum cones from the same refinery as the shell stuff, it just doesn't get the bio bit.

Don't run the tank low on fuel. The last bit of the tank disappears very quickly and a few have been caught out needing juice.

2 out of 3 CEL that I've seen have been down to me letting somebody in or out of the car with the gearbox in drive and the start stop active. For some reason it doesn't like it and throws a hissy. Before they or you open the doors make sure it's in park or neutral and the parking brake on. The other CEL I had was when I run low on fuel on track. All the above are easily remedied with 6 or so restarts.

Finally, just relax and don't worry about it. A lot of the hype about reliability is just that..... hype. Quick to blame the car / Alfa, they proclaim the problem is in the brand and so on. Look at BMW etc for reliability. You just don't hear the noise in public.

Thanks : all noted, i recon after a few weeks of ownership I’ll wonder why I was worried.

Will post progress and thanks again to all for taking the time.

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So next question for you QV drivers, whilst a relatively small point, I feel they have made a mistake only offering the full exhaust noise when in race (with NO traction assist) has anyone over ridden this , I understand there is a remote option?

As I will be customer facing with this car, I want to be able to keep the noise down for those times, but full "boy racer" without the concern of falling off the road?

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Perfect 👌🏽
Thanks again to all

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virtualm said:

I've got the AHM exhaust mod, I had it fitted 3 weeks after ownership. It's brilliant. I don't even both sticking it in Race anymore, just leave it in Dynamic and go....

And in this cold weather the valves absolutely love it, pops and bangs very random, sometimes f-in loud like a gun going off. I also find Shell VPower offers more bangs vs Tesco Momentum.

I've changed Corsa's to MPS4S and up sized 255 & 295 front & rear, massive improvement over the restrictions of the corsa's IMO.

I’ve now seen the AMH kit and that’s a defo for me, and great to hear it is a noisy beast when open just what I want for fun, yet making it quite when I want.

As this will be contract hire , I usually do the service and tyre pack as well but deliberating this as does not give you the freedom with tyres this car may need. On my XEs it really need a different brand for the winter but refuse to pay twice (on contract then out my pocket) so I get a lot of rear sliding if I want that fun of not.
Tx

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peter777s said:

Agree with that the Giulia QV feels special and exotic and that's coming from someone who has owned Porsches, BMW M5 & M3, AMG's, Maserati Granturismo.

Having driven many cars I also agree the QV feels more special than almost anything plus I’ve seen more GT3s on the road so also very exclusive!

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Not really sure how this ended up and qv porker argument as I was looking for some advice on reliability of the Qv for my next daily / company car. .. which I now have thank you. When my current contract is done the Qv is next.

Edited by firethorne on Thursday 31st January 18:22

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theplayingmantis said:

not wanting to be left out of this AO jerk circle, i agree just buy one!

12,000m in a year and a quarter, no issues so far touch wood, other than my own making (well some munter who cut me up in a 4x4's making) just font hit any kerbs with the front splitter.

as for the exhaust mod, as i perhaps incorrectly assume that contract hire means you wont be buying it either outright or the end of the pcp, wouldn't that stop you getting a that mod?

Well as it’s a plug a play mod I can take it off before giving it back. The dealer are relaxed when serving etc. And will
Do no harm to the next owner. Let’s be honest they would rather I leave it on.

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theplayingmantis said:

firethorne said:

Well as it’s a plug a play mod I can take it off before giving it back. The dealer are relaxed when serving etc. And will
Do no harm to the next owner. Let’s be honest they would rather I leave it on.

Oh don’t get me wrong my I’m sure they would, but a lot of us over on AO are weary of getting it done in case of voiding warranty or at least of giving ARUK an excuse to should it come to that. As soon as my warranties expired I’m getting an exhaust mod, unless I decide to get another or Alfetta Quad if they eventually do one!

fair point, I'm hoping AR sort out this stupid idea before I get mine, for me it should be full bore in Dynamic mode as well, or even better on a button. I am going to see if I can get my dealer to fit it, its worth an ask.

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E31Shrew said:

Hasnt warped yet this year but early days! Great review by JC on Youtube of the QF which I guess was from the Grand Tour

That review was from GT last season and whilst I don’t agree with most things Jc says, it was one of the reasons it’s going to be my next car. 😁

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Well, I've only gone a bloody done it!

Got a deal I was happy with and have terminated my old contract so I get my Tri-coat red, QV Tuesday week.................I now just hope you lot were right and it does not let me down, but that aside I am so excited to finally get it on order,


In reference to someone doubting the additional injector, this is in fact true for 2019 models. Apparently the one large injector was giving some low rev lumpy running issues, so they have now added a smaller injector for this, I understand it also assists with fuel economy to. However it may not pop and bang like some of you say it does.

Thanks once again to all for the views, and will keep this topic running with updates!

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Ares said:

Exactly that. Brakes (and suspension) hasn't changed, journalists (without with Germanic agenda) just liked to pick fault with the car...almost as I've they'd decided it was going to be inferior before driving the car, then had to find reasons for it.

FYI they have updated the breaks, apparently they were not quite right at low speeds, so they have reconfigured to negate this. This is the beauty of a fly by wire system, they can easily update it bases of feed back.

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BlackPorker said:

If an AR dealer said it, it MUST be true!

ummmm, updated the hardware NO, updated the software YES .... I think

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urquattroGus said:

My dealer told me that they have changed the engine spec this year to a 1.2 twin air boosted by an updated version of the Rover/BRM Gas Turbine engine that only runs on a 40/60 mix of bilberry juice and vodka.

this has been a really nice, helpful conversation up until now so, thanks for bring it down to basic level piss taking! only a bell-end would say you can run a gas turbine on vodka, when we ALL know its jack Daniels.....

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rokut said:

Congratulations! Does this mean you now have it?! And if so, what are your first thoughts?
Also - can you give an indication on the deal you got? Feel free to PM if easier. Many thanks

After they lost it for 2 days (don’t even ask!) I have been a proud owner (well technically renter) of the Qv for exactly a week.
First impressions are: absolutely awesome drive really love it, it is so quick I’ve got mates with other very fast cars and this one just stands out. Plus as this is my daily car the normal mode is just a lovely well done and well balanced, low noise great daily driver seats are best I’ve ever been in.

Negatives, well very small.. been trying not to press the fun button too much but even on some relatively long runs in eco mode I’m only going to get around 26 miles to the gallon I hoped for more like 30 something (what are others getting? ) and I do realise I hadn’t bought the car for its economic sense

Also and as I suspected not been able to have the full boar noisy exhaust unless you turn all the safety equipment off is a mistake by alfa! The car sounds amazing with the exhaust fully open even if it’s just around town being a bit of a boy racer at low speeds at relatively low revs, so I’m gonna have to look into this remote option so I can control the exhaust in any of the mode.

All in all I’m very happy alfa Romeo driver

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virtualm said:

I've got the AHM exhaust mod, I had it fitted 3 weeks after ownership. It's brilliant. I don't even both sticking it in Race anymore, just leave it in Dynamic and go....

And in this cold weather the valves absolutely love it, pops and bangs very random, sometimes f-in loud like a gun going off. I also find Shell VPower offers more bangs vs Tesco Momentum.

I've changed Corsa's to MPS4S and up sized 255 & 295 front & rear, massive improvement over the restrictions of the corsa's IMO.

Hi, very interested in the exhaust mod. Did you talk to the dealer about warranty’s or just get on with it?
Also not your view on the tyres. Do you run through the winter on these ? Do the mps4s get over the crabbing at full lock, and how does the wider tyres look on the wheel? Picture please 😊

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Zarco said:

Oink oink.

LOL using speech text isn't always the best ... last month I jumped in to a Paul........ that's something completely different to a Pool PMSL